Fukushima disaster: worse than Hiroshima

[appleannie1]

While the Bloomberg news report overnight of two extremely high radiation readings being recorded at the Fukushima complex of nuclear plants on August 1 and August 2 are alarming, other significant disclosures are also made in this story.

The reading of 10 sieverts of radiation per hour outside the damaged reactor buildings was the highest level the equipment used could have detected, meaning the lethality of the contamination was off the scale; and
For the first time a tenured nuclear expert Tetsuo Ito, the head of the Atomic Energy Research Institute at Kinki University concedes that the melted cores of one or more reactors may have melted through the supposedly failure proof containment vessel floor, sinking deeper into the subsoil and given the nature of the radioactive material concerned, into a position where it can spread a very long distance directly through the subsoil water table.

Fukushima nuclear disaster: social media captures the true extent of contamination | Crikey

 

[martybegan]

While the Bloomberg news report overnight of two extremely high radiation readings being recorded at the Fukushima complex of nuclear plants on August 1 and August 2 are alarming, other significant disclosures are also made in this story.

The reading of 10 sieverts of radiation per hour outside the damaged reactor buildings was the highest level the equipment used could have detected, meaning the lethality of the contamination was off the scale; and
For the first time a tenured nuclear expert Tetsuo Ito, the head of the Atomic Energy Research Institute at Kinki University concedes that the melted cores of one or more reactors may have melted through the supposedly failure proof containment vessel floor, sinking deeper into the subsoil and given the nature of the radioactive material concerned, into a position where it can spread a very long distance directly through the subsoil water table.

Fukushima nuclear disaster: social media captures the true extent of contamination | Crikey

All sorts of speculation, zero scientific data. Lots of "may haves, and could ofs, and possiblys."

And comparing this to hiroshima is insulting to those who survived that blast.

 

[appleannie1]

Do you also think it is insulting to the people of Japan that are being bombarded with radiation today to continue to be assured that it is safe?

 

[martybegan]

Do you also think it is insulting to the people of Japan that are being bombarded with radiation today to continue to be assured that it is safe?

If there was hard proof that the excess radiation from fukishima was harmful, then yes it would be. So far we haven't seen any of it. The 10 Sv/hr reading was between the two reactors inside the plant, not in the general population.

Hiroshima also had that whole explosion thing, which didn't happen at the plant. And before you bring it up, the hydrogen explosions were not nuclear.

 

[TruthSeeker56]

While the Bloomberg news report overnight of two extremely high radiation readings being recorded at the Fukushima complex of nuclear plants on August 1 and August 2 are alarming, other significant disclosures are also made in this story.

The reading of 10 sieverts of radiation per hour outside the damaged reactor buildings was the highest level the equipment used could have detected, meaning the lethality of the contamination was off the scale; and
For the first time a tenured nuclear expert Tetsuo Ito, the head of the Atomic Energy Research Institute at Kinki University concedes that the melted cores of one or more reactors may have melted through the supposedly failure proof containment vessel floor, sinking deeper into the subsoil and given the nature of the radioactive material concerned, into a position where it can spread a very long distance directly through the subsoil water table.

Fukushima nuclear disaster: social media captures the true extent of contamination | Crikey

Ever heard of TIME, DISTANCE, and SHIELDING. I didn't think so.

Just for the record, the highest radiation readings were 400 mSv per hour. You do the math, Einstein.

 

[percysunshine]

Well, they both end in '...shima.

Of course, so does sushi...

 

[TruthSeeker56]

Well, they both end in '...shima.

Of course, so does sushi...

Good point, percy. You discovered the ONLY common link between the two!

 

[Mad Scientist]

Death in Seconds! Not months or years:
Death in seconds: High radiation found at Fukushima - World news - Asia-Pacific - msnbc.com

My wife's grandparents were Hiroshima survivors. I'm gonna do a write up about it here soon.

 

[bripat9643]

Number of fatalities:

Hiroshima: 90,000–140,000
Fukushima: 0

So which one was worse?

While the Bloomberg news report overnight of two extremely high radiation readings being recorded at the Fukushima complex of nuclear plants on August 1 and August 2 are alarming, other significant disclosures are also made in this story.

The reading of 10 sieverts of radiation per hour outside the damaged reactor buildings was the highest level the equipment used could have detected, meaning the lethality of the contamination was off the scale; and
For the first time a tenured nuclear expert Tetsuo Ito, the head of the Atomic Energy Research Institute at Kinki University concedes that the melted cores of one or more reactors may have melted through the supposedly failure proof containment vessel floor, sinking deeper into the subsoil and given the nature of the radioactive material concerned, into a position where it can spread a very long distance directly through the subsoil water table.

Fukushima nuclear disaster: social media captures the true extent of contamination | Crikey

 

[uscitizen]

Do you also think it is insulting to the people of Japan that are being bombarded with radiation today to continue to be assured that it is safe?

If there was hard proof that the excess radiation from fukishima was harmful, then yes it would be. So far we haven't seen any of it. The 10 Sv/hr reading was between the two reactors inside the plant, not in the general population.

Hiroshima also had that whole explosion thing, which didn't happen at the plant. And before you bring it up, the hydrogen explosions were not nuclear.

why don't you go over there and check it out to see if it harms you?

 

[martybegan]

Do you also think it is insulting to the people of Japan that are being bombarded with radiation today to continue to be assured that it is safe?

If there was hard proof that the excess radiation from fukishima was harmful, then yes it would be. So far we haven't seen any of it. The 10 Sv/hr reading was between the two reactors inside the plant, not in the general population.

Hiroshima also had that whole explosion thing, which didn't happen at the plant. And before you bring it up, the hydrogen explosions were not nuclear.

why don't you go over there and check it out to see if it harms you?

If thats the best response you got then you have added nothing to the conversation.

The 10Sv/hr area was read using a remote device. So far there is no explanation of the reading. And remember that as long as you are far away enough from said source, you are safe.

 

[TruthSeeker56]

Do you also think it is insulting to the people of Japan that are being bombarded with radiation today to continue to be assured that it is safe?

If there was hard proof that the excess radiation from fukishima was harmful, then yes it would be. So far we haven't seen any of it. The 10 Sv/hr reading was between the two reactors inside the plant, not in the general population.

Hiroshima also had that whole explosion thing, which didn't happen at the plant. And before you bring it up, the hydrogen explosions were not nuclear.

why don't you go over there and check it out to see if it harms you?

Great idea, uscitizen! Why don't all of the nuke power plant alarmists have a convention near the Fukishima site! They can do their own radiation measurements, and if all of the anti-nuke rhetoric is correct, they'll all get a nice acute dose of I-131 and Cs-137 and Co-60 and Mg-58 & 60 and some Zn and Tritium and some neutrons for dessert!

Then, before all of their hair falls out and the skin lesions cover their bodies and they start vomiting non-stop, they can come back to the USA and give us all a full report on their findings and brag about how "right" they were!

Dumb asses.

 

[Old Rocks]

This ongoing disaster is a long way from over.

Fukushima nuclear plant may have suffered 'melt-through', Japan admits | World news | guardian.co.uk

Molten nuclear fuel in three reactors at the Fukushima Daiichi power plant is likely to have burned through pressure vessels, not just the cores, Japan has said in a report in which it also acknowledges it was unprepared for an accident of the severity of Fukushima.

It is the first time Japanese authorities have admitted the possibility that the fuel suffered "melt-through" – a more serious scenario than a core meltdown.

The report, which is to be submitted to the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), said fuel rods in reactors No 1, 2 and 3 had probably not only melted, but also breached their inner containment vessels and accumulated in the outer steel containment vessels.

The plant's operator, Tokyo Electric Power (Tepco), says it believes the molten fuel is being cooled by water that has built up in the bottom of the three reactor buildings.

The report includes an apology to the international community for the nuclear crisis – the world's worst since Chernobyl in 1986 – and expresses "remorse that this accident has raised concerns around the world about the safety of nuclear power generation".

The prime minister, Naoto Kan, said: "Above all, it is most important to inform the international community with thorough transparency in order for us to regain its confidence in Japan."

The report comes a day after Japan's nuclear safety agency said the amount of radiation that leaked from Fukushima Daiichi in the first week of the accident may have been more than double that initially estimated by Tepco.

 

[Old Rocks]

Number of fatalities:

Hiroshima: 90,000–140,000
Fukushima: 0

So which one was worse?

While the Bloomberg news report overnight of two extremely high radiation readings being recorded at the Fukushima complex of nuclear plants on August 1 and August 2 are alarming, other significant disclosures are also made in this story.

The reading of 10 sieverts of radiation per hour outside the damaged reactor buildings was the highest level the equipment used could have detected, meaning the lethality of the contamination was off the scale; and
For the first time a tenured nuclear expert Tetsuo Ito, the head of the Atomic Energy Research Institute at Kinki University concedes that the melted cores of one or more reactors may have melted through the supposedly failure proof containment vessel floor, sinking deeper into the subsoil and given the nature of the radioactive material concerned, into a position where it can spread a very long distance directly through the subsoil water table.

Fukushima nuclear disaster: social media captures the true extent of contamination | Crikey

Must you always prove what a dumb fuck you are, Pattycake? There are enough people there that have already recieved significant doses of radiation that we know, from past experiance, there will be a certain percentage of them die from radiation associated diseases, such as cancer.

And this is an ongoing disaster. It is by no means contained yet. As Mad Scientist pointed out, there are known areas, areas exposed to outside atmosphere, with extreme levels of radiation. What of the areas not yet explored within the reactor buildings? That argues that the disaster has yet to potential to get much worse.