Fuck it! Let Bernie win.

You're actually coming on the internet to suggest all two million of these contributions all came from unions??

That's not what I said. Again... he has other people donating to him as well... Marxists, Maoists, Trotskyites, Stalinists, Leninists... lots of people. But his MAIN support comes from labor unions as the list shows.

And once again, the list "shows" no such thing. And one again, see post 148. If you can handle big numbers.
 
You're actually coming on the internet to suggest all two million of these contributions all came from unions??

That's not what I said. Again... he has other people donating to him as well... Marxists, Maoists, Trotskyites, Stalinists, Leninists... lots of people. But his MAIN support comes from labor unions as the list shows.

And once again, the list "shows" no such thing. And one again, see post 148. If you can handle big numbers.

Yes, the official FEC report on campaign contributions shows his top 20 contributions come from organized labor. That's a fact of life and you need to accept it as such. Bernie doesn't have some generic grass roots movement going, he has a cabal of union supporters who are socialist like him and a bunch of idiot young people who believe in santa clause. That is his basis of support and interestingly enough, it's competing with the establishment crony felon in waiting, Hillary "I never met a scandal I didn't like" Clinton.
 
You're actually coming on the internet to suggest all two million of these contributions all came from unions??

That's not what I said. Again... he has other people donating to him as well... Marxists, Maoists, Trotskyites, Stalinists, Leninists... lots of people. But his MAIN support comes from labor unions as the list shows.

And once again, the list "shows" no such thing. And one again, see post 148. If you can handle big numbers.

Yes, the official FEC report on campaign contributions shows his top 20 contributions come from organized labor. That's a fact of life and you need to accept it as such. Bernie doesn't have some generic grass roots movement going, he has a cabal of union supporters who are socialist like him and a bunch of idiot young people who believe in santa clause. That is his basis of support and interestingly enough, it's competing with the establishment crony felon in waiting, Hillary "I never met a scandal I didn't like" Clinton.

You uh .... don't grok numbers huh?

One million (in a year).... 6.4 million (in 24 hours).
---- which of these is a bigger number? Can you guess how much bigger it is?

Want to phone a friend?
 
You're actually coming on the internet to suggest all two million of these contributions all came from unions??

That's not what I said. Again... he has other people donating to him as well... Marxists, Maoists, Trotskyites, Stalinists, Leninists... lots of people. But his MAIN support comes from labor unions as the list shows.

And once again, the list "shows" no such thing. And one again, see post 148. If you can handle big numbers.

Yes, the official FEC report on campaign contributions shows his top 20 contributions come from organized labor. That's a fact of life and you need to accept it as such. Bernie doesn't have some generic grass roots movement going, he has a cabal of union supporters who are socialist like him and a bunch of idiot young people who believe in santa clause. That is his basis of support and interestingly enough, it's competing with the establishment crony felon in waiting, Hillary "I never met a scandal I didn't like" Clinton.

You uh .... don't grok numbers huh?

One million (in a year).... 6.4 million in 24 hours.
---- which of these is a bigger number?

Want to phone a friend?

I gave the numbers reported to the FEC as of 12/31/15... That doesn't include anything recently. All the numbers are individual contribution totals they are just coming from union members. I suspect most of the $6m you're crowing about also comes from union members and will be reported as such to the FEC. You're trying to segregate the union contributions from individual contributions and that's ridiculous because the unions themselves can't donate more than $2k each as a matter of federal campaign finance law. The list is an accounting of where the individual money is coming from and it's UNION contributions by individuals who are UNION members donating through their UNION PACs. Most of them are doing so without their consent because the Union bosses do this on their behalf... they have no choice in the matter. They simply take part of Joe Smith's union dues, put it in an envelope with Joe Smith's name on it and give it to Bernie... then you run around crowing about all this individual contribution he is getting.
 
You're actually coming on the internet to suggest all two million of these contributions all came from unions??

That's not what I said. Again... he has other people donating to him as well... Marxists, Maoists, Trotskyites, Stalinists, Leninists... lots of people. But his MAIN support comes from labor unions as the list shows.

And once again, the list "shows" no such thing. And one again, see post 148. If you can handle big numbers.

Yes, the official FEC report on campaign contributions shows his top 20 contributions come from organized labor. That's a fact of life and you need to accept it as such. Bernie doesn't have some generic grass roots movement going, he has a cabal of union supporters who are socialist like him and a bunch of idiot young people who believe in santa clause. That is his basis of support and interestingly enough, it's competing with the establishment crony felon in waiting, Hillary "I never met a scandal I didn't like" Clinton.

You uh .... don't grok numbers huh?

One million (in a year).... 6.4 million in 24 hours.
---- which of these is a bigger number?

Want to phone a friend?

I gave the numbers reported to the FEC as of 12/31/15... That doesn't include anything recently. All the numbers are individual contribution totals they are just coming from union members. I suspect most of the $6m you're crowing about also comes from union members and will be reported as such to the FEC. You're trying to segregate the union contributions from individual contributions and that's ridiculous because the unions themselves can't donate more than $2k each as a matter of federal campaign finance law. The list is an accounting of where the individual money is coming from and it's UNION contributions by individuals who are UNION members donating through their UNION PACs. Most of them are doing so without their consent because the Union bosses do this on their behalf... they have no choice in the matter. They simply take part of Joe Smith's union dues, put it in an envelope with Joe Smith's name on it and give it to Bernie... then you run around crowing about all this individual contribution he is getting.

Ah, now we're backing up to "I suspect".

Just admit you pulled it out of your ass. Save time.
 
That's not what I said. Again... he has other people donating to him as well... Marxists, Maoists, Trotskyites, Stalinists, Leninists... lots of people. But his MAIN support comes from labor unions as the list shows.

And once again, the list "shows" no such thing. And one again, see post 148. If you can handle big numbers.

Yes, the official FEC report on campaign contributions shows his top 20 contributions come from organized labor. That's a fact of life and you need to accept it as such. Bernie doesn't have some generic grass roots movement going, he has a cabal of union supporters who are socialist like him and a bunch of idiot young people who believe in santa clause. That is his basis of support and interestingly enough, it's competing with the establishment crony felon in waiting, Hillary "I never met a scandal I didn't like" Clinton.

You uh .... don't grok numbers huh?

One million (in a year).... 6.4 million in 24 hours.
---- which of these is a bigger number?

Want to phone a friend?

I gave the numbers reported to the FEC as of 12/31/15... That doesn't include anything recently. All the numbers are individual contribution totals they are just coming from union members. I suspect most of the $6m you're crowing about also comes from union members and will be reported as such to the FEC. You're trying to segregate the union contributions from individual contributions and that's ridiculous because the unions themselves can't donate more than $2k each as a matter of federal campaign finance law. The list is an accounting of where the individual money is coming from and it's UNION contributions by individuals who are UNION members donating through their UNION PACs. Most of them are doing so without their consent because the Union bosses do this on their behalf... they have no choice in the matter. They simply take part of Joe Smith's union dues, put it in an envelope with Joe Smith's name on it and give it to Bernie... then you run around crowing about all this individual contribution he is getting.

Ah, now we're backing up to "I suspect".

Just admit you pulled it out of your ass. Save time.

No, I am just going by what has been reported as of 12/31/15. Most of his funding is coming from labor unions just like most of Hillary's money is coming from investment bankers and hedge fund managers. This is all a matter of public record now and anyone is free to look it up for themselves at the FEC website.

I did not say that 100% of all his money is coming from the unions. After his next quarterly reports are made public, we will see where his contributions are coming from... I suspect they will continue to largely come from the unions because they are ones largely supporting Bern.... along with students who generally contribute very little.
 
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And once again, the list "shows" no such thing. And one again, see post 148. If you can handle big numbers.

Yes, the official FEC report on campaign contributions shows his top 20 contributions come from organized labor. That's a fact of life and you need to accept it as such. Bernie doesn't have some generic grass roots movement going, he has a cabal of union supporters who are socialist like him and a bunch of idiot young people who believe in santa clause. That is his basis of support and interestingly enough, it's competing with the establishment crony felon in waiting, Hillary "I never met a scandal I didn't like" Clinton.

You uh .... don't grok numbers huh?

One million (in a year).... 6.4 million in 24 hours.
---- which of these is a bigger number?

Want to phone a friend?

I gave the numbers reported to the FEC as of 12/31/15... That doesn't include anything recently. All the numbers are individual contribution totals they are just coming from union members. I suspect most of the $6m you're crowing about also comes from union members and will be reported as such to the FEC. You're trying to segregate the union contributions from individual contributions and that's ridiculous because the unions themselves can't donate more than $2k each as a matter of federal campaign finance law. The list is an accounting of where the individual money is coming from and it's UNION contributions by individuals who are UNION members donating through their UNION PACs. Most of them are doing so without their consent because the Union bosses do this on their behalf... they have no choice in the matter. They simply take part of Joe Smith's union dues, put it in an envelope with Joe Smith's name on it and give it to Bernie... then you run around crowing about all this individual contribution he is getting.

Ah, now we're backing up to "I suspect".

Just admit you pulled it out of your ass. Save time.

No, I am just going by what has been reported as of 12/31/15. Most of his funding is coming from labor unions just like most of Hillary's money is coming from investment bankers and hedge fund managers. This is all a matter of public record now and anyone is free to look it up for themselves at the FEC website.

I did not say that 100% of all his money is coming from the unions. After his next quarterly reports are made public, we will see where his contributions are coming from... I suspect they will continue to largely come from the unions because they are ones largely supporting Bern.... along with students who generally contribute very little.

Yuh huh. "All" was implicit, from which you backed up to "I suspect", from which you're now backing up to "most".

Roll tape.

Bern gets his funding from labor unions.

Not "mostly" or even "partially" or "insignificantly" ---- "from labor unions". Exclusively.

Wait, that was the second one. The first one's even better:

Who is funding Bernie's ideas and visions? Labor unions.

Here the unions are not funding the campaign, but the "ideas and visions". Even though Sanders has been saying the same ideas and visions all his political life. Neat trick, in terms of linear time.

The fact remains, you posted a list that totals a million bucks after an entire year, and I showed you contributions totaling six times that much coming in a 24-hour period alone. That's from individuals.

Know how many 24-hour periods there are in a year?
 
Yes, the official FEC report on campaign contributions shows his top 20 contributions come from organized labor. That's a fact of life and you need to accept it as such. Bernie doesn't have some generic grass roots movement going, he has a cabal of union supporters who are socialist like him and a bunch of idiot young people who believe in santa clause. That is his basis of support and interestingly enough, it's competing with the establishment crony felon in waiting, Hillary "I never met a scandal I didn't like" Clinton.

You uh .... don't grok numbers huh?

One million (in a year).... 6.4 million in 24 hours.
---- which of these is a bigger number?

Want to phone a friend?

I gave the numbers reported to the FEC as of 12/31/15... That doesn't include anything recently. All the numbers are individual contribution totals they are just coming from union members. I suspect most of the $6m you're crowing about also comes from union members and will be reported as such to the FEC. You're trying to segregate the union contributions from individual contributions and that's ridiculous because the unions themselves can't donate more than $2k each as a matter of federal campaign finance law. The list is an accounting of where the individual money is coming from and it's UNION contributions by individuals who are UNION members donating through their UNION PACs. Most of them are doing so without their consent because the Union bosses do this on their behalf... they have no choice in the matter. They simply take part of Joe Smith's union dues, put it in an envelope with Joe Smith's name on it and give it to Bernie... then you run around crowing about all this individual contribution he is getting.

Ah, now we're backing up to "I suspect".

Just admit you pulled it out of your ass. Save time.

No, I am just going by what has been reported as of 12/31/15. Most of his funding is coming from labor unions just like most of Hillary's money is coming from investment bankers and hedge fund managers. This is all a matter of public record now and anyone is free to look it up for themselves at the FEC website.

I did not say that 100% of all his money is coming from the unions. After his next quarterly reports are made public, we will see where his contributions are coming from... I suspect they will continue to largely come from the unions because they are ones largely supporting Bern.... along with students who generally contribute very little.

Yuh huh. "All" was implicit, from which you backed up to "I suspect", from which you're now backing up to "most".

Roll tape.

Bern gets his funding from labor unions.

Not "mostly" or even "partially" or "insignificantly" ---- "from labor unions". Exclusively.

Wait, that was the second one. The first one's even better:

Who is funding Bernie's ideas and visions? Labor unions.

Here the unions are not funding the campaign, but the "ideas and visions". Even though Sanders has been saying the same ideas and visions all his political life. Neat trick, in terms of linear time.

The fact remains, you posted a list that totals a million bucks after an entire year, and I showed you contributions totaling six times that much coming in a 24-hour period alone. That's from individuals.

Know how many 24-hour periods there are in a year?

I showed you contributions totaling six times that much coming in a 24-hour period alone. That's from individuals.

Individuals who belong to labor unions, who's labor union is contributing a portion of their dues on their behalf.... that's the part you're leaving out.
 
I'm so disheartened by the level of stupidity on display especially among the young. Let's look logically at what would happen if Crazy Bernie wins.

Can we get free stuff? If you are my age (60), we won't get to take advantage of the free college, but we may get free healthcare. At first, we may not have to suffer through long lines and long waits. If you're my age you won't have to worry about paying for the long term effects. So hey! Free stuff right?

If you are young, you have a serious problem. You get free healthcare, free college, a higher minimum wage, and whatever else Crazy Bernie has promised. But eventually the bill will come due. But hey YOU voted for him..."elections have consequences" and all that.

Crazy Bernie says that you don't have to worry, that he'll make Wall Street pay for it. Though he never says how. Yeah, good luck with the consequences of that.

The young, having suffered through years of progressive programming and designed ignorance, will likely only learn the truth when it hits them like a freight train. It may well be that the sooner it happens, the sooner we can trash all of this left wing poison that is making the US of A so sick.


People don't vote for Sanders because they think they will get free stuff out of it.

They are voting for him because he is the only one out there with some GUTS...

Trump seems to be the most inline guy on the reps side, and you can see his numbers are rising as well.

American people are tired of lousy disgusting politicians.
Thats the bottom line of this election...

Indeed

It takes a special kind of guts to give shit away using other people's money!

Bank robbers have that same quality.
 
You uh .... don't grok numbers huh?

One million (in a year).... 6.4 million in 24 hours.
---- which of these is a bigger number?

Want to phone a friend?

I gave the numbers reported to the FEC as of 12/31/15... That doesn't include anything recently. All the numbers are individual contribution totals they are just coming from union members. I suspect most of the $6m you're crowing about also comes from union members and will be reported as such to the FEC. You're trying to segregate the union contributions from individual contributions and that's ridiculous because the unions themselves can't donate more than $2k each as a matter of federal campaign finance law. The list is an accounting of where the individual money is coming from and it's UNION contributions by individuals who are UNION members donating through their UNION PACs. Most of them are doing so without their consent because the Union bosses do this on their behalf... they have no choice in the matter. They simply take part of Joe Smith's union dues, put it in an envelope with Joe Smith's name on it and give it to Bernie... then you run around crowing about all this individual contribution he is getting.

Ah, now we're backing up to "I suspect".

Just admit you pulled it out of your ass. Save time.

No, I am just going by what has been reported as of 12/31/15. Most of his funding is coming from labor unions just like most of Hillary's money is coming from investment bankers and hedge fund managers. This is all a matter of public record now and anyone is free to look it up for themselves at the FEC website.

I did not say that 100% of all his money is coming from the unions. After his next quarterly reports are made public, we will see where his contributions are coming from... I suspect they will continue to largely come from the unions because they are ones largely supporting Bern.... along with students who generally contribute very little.

Yuh huh. "All" was implicit, from which you backed up to "I suspect", from which you're now backing up to "most".

Roll tape.

Bern gets his funding from labor unions.

Not "mostly" or even "partially" or "insignificantly" ---- "from labor unions". Exclusively.

Wait, that was the second one. The first one's even better:

Who is funding Bernie's ideas and visions? Labor unions.

Here the unions are not funding the campaign, but the "ideas and visions". Even though Sanders has been saying the same ideas and visions all his political life. Neat trick, in terms of linear time.

The fact remains, you posted a list that totals a million bucks after an entire year, and I showed you contributions totaling six times that much coming in a 24-hour period alone. That's from individuals.

Know how many 24-hour periods there are in a year?

I showed you contributions totaling six times that much coming in a 24-hour period alone. That's from individuals.

Individuals who belong to labor unions, who's labor union is contributing a portion of their dues on their behalf.... that's the part you're leaving out.

The link to where those individuals belong to labor unions --- that's the part you're leaving out.

Which, I can't blame you since no such link exists. "Because I said so" does not cut it. You can't just drive up in your personal Fiat and declare the demographics of a group of people about which you have zero information other than how much money they gave.
 
The link to where those individuals belong to labor unions --- that's the part you're leaving out.

I can't give you that yet because the FEC hasn't released the federally-require reports. I will be glad to do it whenever they are released to the public. As of 12/31/15, the bulk of his financing is from union supporters. Sorry you want to run away from that.
 
The link to where those individuals belong to labor unions --- that's the part you're leaving out.

I can't give you that yet because the FEC hasn't released the federally-require reports. I will be glad to do it whenever they are released to the public. As of 12/31/15, the bulk of his financing is from union supporters. Sorry you want to run away from that.

Yeah you do that, when the reports come out. Meet me here with them. Until then, and even after then, you're pulling it out of your ass. I keep telling you that's not where the world of reality lives.


Can you show me the Sanders contribution web page where it says you have to be a union member to donate?


Didn't think so.
 
Gotta admit, i like the guy. He really would shake things up. He'd stick it to the Oligarch Fat Cats. It would be fascinating watching that unfold. Now i'm not a Socialist/Communist, but i don't mind some balance. He would keep the Oligarchs somewhat in check. And that's a good thing. But can he really win? That's the question.
 

So you're saying state governments can't be trusted (Michigan certainly makes the case for you), and what we really need is overarching federal control of things that used to be considered states rights.

Sort of like a parent taking away a kid's privileges when he misbehaves. "Maybe when you can show that all of the water you're providing your citizens is safe to drink you can have your Gameboy back, but in the meantime, you're grounded." That kind of thing.
 
My daughter despises the Bern, and the black live matter folk, and the Trumpeters for that matter. I suspect she'd vote for Hill simply because she knows Hill will nominate pro choice judges, but really she's not very political beyond thinking govt screws things up more than it helps

I keep telling myself that these young kids voting for the Bern are a small minority within a small minority of the public, and recalling that most kids voted for Nixon.
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And Nixon WON
 
My daughter despises the Bern, and the black live matter folk, and the Trumpeters for that matter. I suspect she'd vote for Hill simply because she knows Hill will nominate pro choice judges, but really she's not very political beyond thinking govt screws things up more than it helps

I keep telling myself that these young kids voting for the Bern are a small minority within a small minority of the public, and recalling that most kids voted for Nixon.

Uh ---- "most kids voted for Nixon"??

:wtf:
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