From Iraq's own papers! - Al Qaeda link

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    Iraqi Daily: Saddam Ordered Training of Al-Qa'ida Members

    "The independent Iraqi weekly Al-Yawm Al-Aakher reveals details on the training of Al-Qa'ida members operating under the orders of Saddam's Presidential Palace two months before the September 11 attacks."

    I suppose Baghad Bob will come out now - "It's just more lies from the infidels!" "

    Yeah, sure :rolleyes:

    http://memri.org/bin/latestnews.cgi?ID=SD59203#_edn1
     
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    It won't just be Bagdad Bob.;)
     
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    The barrage of criticism comes amid daily lethal attacks on the 147,000 U.S. troops in Iraq, even as Iraq's U.S. administrator, L. Paul Bremer, and his staff are fighting to restore essential services, security and political structure.
    A column in the July 7 edition of the independent Iraqi daily Al-Yawm Al-Aakhir criticized Mr. Bremer for shirking his responsibilities as head of an occupation force and failing to set up an effective Iraqi government.
    "Now that three months have elapsed since your occupation, you are still incapable of providing security and services to the people. In these circumstances, what is your response for not establishing an Iraqi government and taking the initiative in the reconstruction of Iraq in a serious manner?" the daily questioned.
     
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    There are no al-Qaeda members in Iraq. Never! What is this al-Qaeda? We are surrounding them. I can say, and I am responsible for what I am saying, that al-Qaeda has
    started to commit suicide under the walls of Baghdad - if there were al-Qaeda members, which there are not. I triple guarantee you, there are no al-Qaeda in Baghdad. Lies!
     
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    LOl! ...never say 'never'...

    All I know is that Ossama--GOP 'Man Of The Year'--himself called Saddam an 'infidel'.

    NeoCons will remember that Saddam was a 'Secular' ruler of Iraq and not a conservative religious fanatic like the Mullahs who ruled Iran--which is precisely why the Realpolitik practitioners of statecraft (now called 'NeoCons') engineered the Iran-Iraq war and supported Saddam under Reagan. Saddam repressed the religious fanatics who support Al-Qaida--THAT is why the Shiites were 'oppressed' by Saddam--WITH our blessings. The Al-Qaida elements that ocupied Iraq did so in the NORTHERN part of the country under the protection of the no-fly zone and with the implicit support of the Kurds. Remember "...the Enemy of my Enemy is my Friend..."?

    Wake up, Folks! You are being selective with your history--just like Fox is with the news. You only believe what you WANT to believe which is exactly why we are in the mess we are in!

    The Best Strategy for Iraq? Get Rid of Bush in 2004; get the UN Redevelopment Authority in there. The latter won't happen without the former. For good reason!
     
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    I don't really trust iraqi news papers yet. I'm wondering if it has a lot of substance.
    Has this story been covered by NY Times, the Guardian or another big news paper?

    Links please :)
     
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    http://iafrica.com/news/worldnews/165085.htm
    http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.asp?ID=5571
    http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_031403/content/nabbed.guest.html
    (I know, I know, It's Rush - but you cannot deny photo evidence.)
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2709233.stm
    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/986832/posts
    http://politics.guardian.co.uk/archive/article/0,,4296646,00.html
    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,85514,00.html
    http://www.chronwatch.com/featured/contentDisplay.asp?aid=4357

    These are just a few I found. Only a couple actually discuss Salman Pak, but there's enough proof by now in my opinion that Iraq had ties to Al Qaeda.

    Some will discount the sources, but it's not just the USA reporting the alleged ties between the two.
     
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    Be cautious with quoting MEMRI, it appears to be an organ of Isreali Intelligence.
    This was originaly an article in the Gaurdian, but the page has expired though a copy still resides here
    Brian Whitaker investigates whether the `independent' media institute
    that translates the Arabic newspapers is quite what it seems
    12 August 2002
    The Guardian
    >>Evidence from Memri's website also casts doubt on its non-partisan status... the institute also emphasises "the continuing relevance of Zionism to the Jewish people and to the state of Israel"...The co-founder and president of Memri, and the registered owner of its website, is an Israeli called Yigal Carmon.
    Mr -- or rather, Colonel -- Carmon spent 22 years in Israeli military intelligence and later served as counter-terrorism adviser to two Israeli prime ministers, Yitzhak Shamir and Yitzhak Rabin.
    Retrieving another now-deleted page from the archives of Memri's website also throws up a list of its staff. Of the six people named, three -- including Col Carmon -- are described as having worked for Israeli intelligence.Among the other three, one served in the Israeli army's Northern Command Ordnance Corps, one has an academic background, and the sixth is a former stand-up comedian. <<
    a more telling quote comes from an even less reliable source
    >>Ibrahim Hooper of the Council on American-Islamic Relations told the Washington Times: "Memri's intent is to find the worst possible quotes from the Muslim world and disseminate them as widely as possible." <<
     
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    >>Some will discount the sources, but it's not just the USA reporting the alleged ties between the two.<<
    Some of articles state no connection, they mention the claim but state no evidence was given to support the claim (bbc was the link I clicked.)
    >>Seems like I see a few "agendas" there as well.<<
    yeah, I wouldn't have reff'ed it but I was familiar with the Gaurdian article and found the reprint on this sight. Kudos for doing your homework on the post.
     

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