Friedman: Jihadis Losing, But All May Not Be Calm

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I disagreed with Menewa that Friedman is conservative, he isn't. But he is on the right side of the WOT:

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/13/opinion/13friedman.html?

OP-ED COLUMNIST
The Calm Before the Storm?
By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN

Published: April 13, 2005


So here's a question that I've been wrestling with lately: With all these reports about the bungling of U.S. intelligence, and the C.I.A.'s relying on bogus informants with names like "Curveball" or "Knucklehead" or whatever, why have there been no terrorist attacks in the U.S. since 9/11? I've got my own pet theory about what's produced this period of calm - and, more important, why it may be coming to an end.

Let's start with the facts. Despite all the code reds and code oranges we've been subjected to by the Department of Homeland Security, and despite the mountain of newspaper articles about how underprotected our ports and borders are, the fact is that not only has there not been another 9/11, but there has not even been a serious failed attempt that we know of.

I'm not complaining - I'm just wondering why. It still seems to me ridiculously easy to blow up a car in the heart of Chicago. And anyone who has flown on a private jet since 9/11 can tell you that security at these private terminals is still so lax that if you showed up in a Saudi headdress with a West Virginia driver's license under the name of "Billy Bob bin Laden" and asked for flight directions for your chartered Learjet to Lower Manhattan, there's a good chance no one would stop you.

So, how then do we explain the calm? To begin with, I'd give a tip o' the hat to the C.I.A., the F.B.I. and the Department of Homeland Security. I have no doubt that their increased vigilance - and coordination with European and Arab intelligence services - has made it much harder for terrorists to organize. Moreover, thanks to Gen. John Abizaid's Centcom forces in Afghanistan, Al Qaeda no longer has a whole country from which to plan, train and coordinate terrorist attacks with impunity. The fact that Al Qaeda effectively controlled a country is what made it unique. Also, new U.S. visa policies have made it much harder for bad guys to get into America.

If your name is Muhammad and you are a 21-year-old single Arab man and you have not visited Disney World yet, well, you may want to consider Euro Disney, because your chances of getting a U.S. tourist visa are very low. Frankly, I wish this were not the case because we're keeping a lot of good, talented Arab men and women from getting educated in America, which is the best way of building friends. This is one of the sad byproducts of 9/11 - but it has undoubtedly made it more difficult for the few bad apples to get in as well.

Despite all of that, I fear that we may now be entering the most dangerous period since 9/11. Why? Because I've always believed that one of the most important reasons there has been no new terrorist attack in America has to do with the U.S. invasions of both Iraq and Afghanistan. It is not only that the Bush administration has taken the fight to the enemy, but that the enemy has welcomed that fight.

To the extent that the Baathists and Jihadists have a coordinated strategy, their first priority, I think, is to defeat American forces in the heart of their world. Because if they can defeat America in the heart of the Arab-Muslim world, it will have so much more resonance than setting off a car bomb in Las Vegas - especially now that 9/11 has set the terrorism bar so high in terms of effect.

If the Jihadists can defeat us in the heart of their world, and force us from Iraq, it will have a huge impact on the Arab street and shake every pro-American Arab regime. The Jihadists have always understood that Iraq is the ballgame. Iraq is the big one. Winning there is what really advances their agendas.

The reason things may be getting more dangerous now is that the formation of a freely elected government in Iraq may signal that the Baathist-Jihadist insurgency is being gradually defeated. The U.S. may even be able to withdraw some troops. And there is nothing worse for the Baathists and Jihadists than to be defeated in the heart of their world - and, even more so, to be defeated in the heart of their world by other Arabs and Muslims who are repudiating the Jihadists' vision and tactics.

I fear that when and if the Jihadists conclude that they have been defeated in the heart of their world, they will be sorely tempted to throw a Hail Mary pass. That is, they may want to launch a spectacular, headline-grabbing act of terrorism in America that tries to mask, and compensate for, just how defeated they have become at home.

In short, the more the Jihadists lose in Iraq, the more likely they are to use their rump forces to try something really crazy in America to make up for it. So let's stay the course in Iraq, but stay extra-vigilant at home.
 
If your name is Muhammad and you are a 21-year-old single Arab man and you have not visited Disney World yet, well, you may want to consider Euro Disney, because your chances of getting a U.S. tourist visa are very low. Frankly, I wish this were not the case because we're keeping a lot of good, talented Arab men and women from getting educated in America, which is the best way of building friends.


Educating Arabs or should Muslims in general is a bad idea. How many more
Islamic bombs do you want to see in this century? Part of the keeping
an advantage over the developing countries is not to share high tech knowledge and for sure not train them in engineering and nuclear physics.
This building friends approach has for now only helped China to spy
out the US H wepons program. Nice work there. Pakistan has the bomb.

Friedman is ready to sell out the US so everyone can have your job worldwide
if they are willing to work for less. When Friedman rants how happy
he is for the callcenters in India he misses the point that these
call centers left the backward areas in the US. Idaho being one
of the affected areas.

I read his book the Lexus and the Olive tree. He is an :asshole:
 
nosarcasm said:
If your name is Muhammad and you are a 21-year-old single Arab man and you have not visited Disney World yet, well, you may want to consider Euro Disney, because your chances of getting a U.S. tourist visa are very low. Frankly, I wish this were not the case because we're keeping a lot of good, talented Arab men and women from getting educated in America, which is the best way of building friends.


Educating Arabs or should Muslims in general is a bad idea. How many more
Islamic bombs do you want to see in this century? Part of the keeping
an advantage over the developing countries is not to share high tech knowledge and for sure not train them in engineering and nuclear physics.
This building friends approach has for now only helped China to spy
out the US H wepons program. Nice work there. Pakistan has the bomb.

Friedman is ready to sell out the US so everyone can have your job worldwide
if they are willing to work for less. When Friedman rants how happy
he is for the callcenters in India he misses the point that these
call centers left the backward areas in the US. Idaho being one
of the affected areas.

I read his book the Lexus and the Olive tree. He is an :asshole:


I agree with your assessment of his writings in general, but on this issue, regardless of his 'lament' he is not arguing for any loosening, rather he criticizes that even more hasn't been done as far as security. To me, this is how some of the columnists that are actually very liberal, ie Christopher Hitchens and for quite awhile, Andrew Sullivan, have been misrepresented as conservative.
 
K, Thomas Friedman, like William Safire, Paul Krugman, Frank Rich, Jonah Goldberg, David Frum, Bill Kristol, William Kristol, Judith Miller, Joel Mowbray, John Podhoretz, Norman Podhoretz, Charles Krauthammer, Paul Wolfowitz and Douglas Feith is NEITHER LIBERAL NOR CONSERVATIVE.

He's a JEW, and that means that he's pushing a JEWISH agenda, not an American one.

They make it look "conservative" by adding militancy and warfare, but it's not militancy or warfare for your sake, it's for their sake. They play up enough "conservative" to get the masses of white gentiles who veer conservative excited and willing to die for their Middle East program, but it's not "conservative" IN THE LEAST! Russell Kirk and Edmund Burke would have NONE OF IT! Buckley know what's going on but he won't say it, and Will is willing to sell his own people out for fame and glory. Bush is just a moron who doesn't know any better.

But smart conservatives should!
 
William Joyce said:
K, Thomas Friedman, like William Safire, Paul Krugman, Frank Rich, Jonah Goldberg, David Frum, Bill Kristol, William Kristol, Judith Miller, Joel Mowbray, John Podhoretz, Norman Podhoretz, Charles Krauthammer, Paul Wolfowitz and Douglas Feith is NEITHER LIBERAL NOR CONSERVATIVE.

He's a JEW, and that means that he's pushing a JEWISH agenda, not an American one.

Enjoy WJ. Just when I think you've turned a corner. :scratch:
 
I know you're resistant to the idea. I once was. Believe me! I thought it was CRAZY to even THINK about Jews negatively. ALL MY LIFE, EVERYTHING I HAD BEEN TAUGHT told me to stay away from that. I said, "You are effing nuts. How are Jews responsible for the current war?"

But just read one book, The Culture of Critique, by Kev. MacDonald:

http://www.csulb.edu/~kmacd/books-Preface.html

You will not be so quick to dismiss what we say.
 
William Joyce said:
I know you're resistant to the idea. I once was. Believe me! I thought it was CRAZY to even THINK about Jews negatively. ALL MY LIFE, EVERYTHING I HAD BEEN TAUGHT told me to stay away from that. I said, "You are effing nuts. How are Jews responsible for the current war?"

But just read one book, The Culture of Critique, by Kev. MacDonald:

http://www.csulb.edu/~kmacd/books-Preface.html

You will not be so quick to dismiss what we say.

I have so many 'edu.' books to read, I always go for the abstract:

The thesis of the book is a difficult one indeed, not only because it is difficult to establish, but also because it challenges many fundamental assumptions about our contemporary intellectual and political existence.

CofC describes how Jewish intellectuals initiated and advanced a number of important intellectual and political movements during the 20th century. I argue that these movements are attempts to alter Western societies in a manner that would neutralize or end anti-Semitism and enhance the prospects for Jewish group continuity either in an overt or in a semi-cryptic manner.

He's a psychologist.
 
Kathianne said:
He's a psychologist.

Yes, though his field, evolutionary psychology, is heavily empirical. If you hate "fuzzy thinking," you won't be disappointed by the work. If you're thinking that all psychologists are liberal, think again --- though he employs all the tools of the modern academic, he does so in a way that's eye-openingly conservative. In fact, there is a section in which he goes after the unfalsifiable nature of many liberal (Jewish) worldviews. It's just fascinating. This guy knows exactly what the liberals think, what the conservatives think, and what the racially conscious think. He's ahead of his time.

I'll buy you the book if you're interested.
 
William Joyce said:
Yes, though his field, evolutionary psychology, is heavily empirical. If you hate "fuzzy thinking," you won't be disappointed by the work. If you're thinking that all psychologists are liberal, think again --- though he employs all the tools of the modern academic, he does so in a way that's eye-openingly conservative. In fact, there is a section in which he goes after the unfalsifiable nature of many liberal (Jewish) worldviews. It's just fascinating.

I'll buy you the book if you're interested.

Sorry WJ, this just doesn't 'grab my interest',
attempts to alter Western societies in a manner that would neutralize or end anti-Semitism and enhance the prospects for Jewish group continuity either in an overt or in a semi-cryptic manner.
 

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