French regaining military pride

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    Its somewhat good for a Nation like france to regain military pride, they re a Nation with a military history that isn't matched by any nation on this planet: They should be proud of their military.

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_History_of_France



     
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    You re misinformed: Poland, Luxembourg, Denmark, the Netherlands and Belgium fell quicker.

    The reason for the French defeat was the huge toll of WWI. Some of the biggest warbattles in history took place during WWI.





    Did you know that the same French military engineering is the reason for the US anthem to exist? (not only the anthem btw: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/France_in_the_American_Revolutionary_War )

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    The Star-Spangled Banner - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    The article you quote is from BBC's Gavin Hewitt.
    He already has stepped back from that specific article in his recent writings, he doesn't write about France being the key country in Libya.

    To your claim, that France has an unmatched military history is bogus.
    French and Brits mainly fought against Bush-Man from the 3rd World who were equipped with wooden weapons.
    The Germans always tried to subdue the other Europeans and seek supremacy on mainland Europe. It's a total different mindset.
     
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    Give me a quote that proves that he withdraws his words then. Besides that, it is clear that France is at the forefront of this effort. Your Turkish prime minister will confirm that ;-)

    It s not their fault that half of the world were still fighting with sticks, they did conquer half of the world. The fact that they did it with superior weapons is to their credit, would you rather have them do it wooden sticks?

    France conquered the whole of Europe just as germany, does the name "Napoleon" ring a bell?
     
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    Major countries. Try reading comprehension. When were :..Poland, Luxembourg, Denmark, the Netherlands and Belgium considered major countries?
     
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    Every Empire has its date of expiry.
    Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation was already in the process of disintegration when Napoleon marched through Germany.
    Germany was not governed by a centralized power structure at that time.
    Some German States fought against Napoleon, some made peace and some aligned with Napoleon.
    Same applies to the 1st crusade, where the Christians achieved to march through West-Asia only because of disunity among Muslim governed entities in West-Asia.

    Napoleon didn't have total control over the lands he marched through, Kingdoms and Princedoms aligned with France and contributed soldiers to Napoleon's campaigns, mainly Germans from today's West-Germany.
    A French-only Army would never have been able to start such a military campaign. This differs from let's say Hitler's Reichswehr, where the Soldiers were solely Germans.

    To the Colonization thing:
    Germany never participated in Colonial War until the Kaiser took Bismark from his power. Only then Germany engaged in Colonial adventures with access to resources as the primary motivation. German industry outpaced Britain and France and German economy needed resources.
    The only other European power to cope with Germany's exponential industrial rise at that time was Russia.

    If Germans and Russians govern their lands in unity, no other powers in Europe are a match.
     
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    You got owned dude.

    And the French were..and are pretty kickass...in terms of a fight. One of the best militaries in history.
     
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    Against 3rd world wooden spears.
    Asterix and Obelix are only a myth, the real ones were in the German forests.

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    Nobody enjoys a good joke about the miltary with the French as the punchline more than me. However, French Soldiers have always been among the best. Their leaders, on the other hand, are generally (no pun intended) among the worst.

    The Germans mowed the French Down in the Blitzkreig and Napoleon was outclassed by Wellington. The Soldiers, though, bravely followed the flawed orders and, when the orders stopped, fought on their own dying by the tens of thousands for their country.

    All of that said, going to war without the French is like going deer hunting without an accordian.
     

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