French Opposition to EU Constitution Climbs Above 60 Percent

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    looks like the baby "United States of Europe", with the potential to challenge the USA, just got aborted.
     
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    This only delays the advent of the EU Constitution. The French Government, which strongly favors the EU Constitutional Treaty, will continue to hold referenda until one finally passes. In Germany, the population does not even get to vote on the EU Constitution. As board member “nosarcasm” pointed out, the German system of EU Constitution approval only involves agreement of the German Parliament. This would be equivalent to the US Congress passing American sovereignty to some larger Western Hemisphere superstate, without a direct electoral decision by the American people. I am not sure whether the German parliamentary approval vote is scheduled before or after the inevitable SPD and PM Schroeder electoral ouster from power.
     
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    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3954327.stm

    the interactive map shows you the different approaches
    and sentiments about the EU constitution.

    the BBC date was the begin of the ratification process in Germany.


    overview by the no faction.
    http://europeannocampaign.com/12.99.html



    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000100&sid=aOQPvjs6PcKQ

    Feb. 18 (Bloomberg) -- Germany's parliament started the process of ratifying the new European Union constitution, which will give the 25-nation bloc a permanent president and foreign- policy chief for the first time.

    The upper house today began the process of approving the treaty with a first debate on the ratification bill. Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder's Cabinet approved the bill on Nov. 3, with the aim of concluding the ratification process by July this year.

    ``The constitution is a historic step in the European integration process, a logical step after the expansion of the EU'' to 25 members last year, Foreign Minister Joschka Fischer told the upper house. ``The government is aiming for swift ratification to give a signal to all of Europe.''

    Germany's constitution doesn't allow for a referendum on the EU constitution. Ten EU countries are planning one, with Spain being the first to vote in two days' time. A rejection of the constitution, signed on Oct. 29 last year in Rome by EU leaders, by any one country would kill the treaty.

    The constitution will create an EU diplomatic service, improve crime-fighting and judicial cooperation, incorporate a charter of basic rights, simplify voting on EU laws and shrink the European Commission, the union's Brussels-based executive and regulatory arm.

    Apart from Spain, the countries that will stage referendums are France, the U.K., the Czech Republic, Denmark, Ireland, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Portugal and Poland. In the other member states, parliament alone will ratify the treaty. Hungary, Lithuania and Slovenia have already approved it.

    Both the upper and lower house of Germany's parliament have to approve the constitution by a two-thirds majority in the final readings of the bill, as the treaty transfers national responsibilities to the EU, including cooperation on police and criminal-justice issues.

    ``What matters now is to implement courageously what has been agreed on'' as early as possible, the prime minister of Baden- Wuerttemberg state, Erwin Teufel, told the upper house. The lower house will hold its first reading of the ratification bill in six days' time.
     
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    That was very good info, nosarcasm.
     
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    The AP and extreme leftist Al-Guardian bemoan possible French rejection of the EU Constitutional Treaty:

     
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    They already prepare to ignore the French No!

    http://www.euobserver.com/?sid=9&aid=18916

    Commission: French 'no' should not kill Constitution's ratification22.04.2005 - 16:55 CET | By Lucia Kubosova

    EUOBSERVER / BRUSSELS - EU member states should press ahead with efforts to ratify the Constitution even if France says "no" in its 29 May referendum, the European Commission has urged.

    Recent speculation by EU leaders that a French no could derail the Constitution project as a whole, sparked the European Commission's statement.

    Brussels pointed out that an appendix to the draft treaty already contains a mechanism for dealing with ratification problems.


    Rules should a referendum fail
    The appendix includes a declaration that states "if, two years after the signature of the Treaty establishing a Constitution for Europe, four fifths of the Member States have ratified it and one or more Member States have encountered difficulties in proceeding with ratification, the matter will be referred to the European Council."

    Czech MEP Jan Zahradil (EPP-ED) takes a different view, however.

    "Member states cannot abide by the rules attached to a Treaty, which has not yet been ratified, that would be nonsense", he indicated.


    "The declaration is not legally binding, but it leaves the door open for this Constitution to be approved even if some of the countries reject it", EU legal expert, Klaus Heeger, commented.

    In practise, this would lead to a multi-speed EU, with the new treaty having a legally binding force in some states but not in others.
     
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    Today's poll :

    YES : 52 %
    NO : 48 %

    I hope the YES will continue to climb and win.
     

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