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Albany's FreedomWorks manager trains group | FreedomWorks

ALBANY — Using the rules of a well-known leftist organizer can work just as well for organizations desiring to influence the government to stop taxing and spending, said Nan E. Swift, a campaign manager for FreedomWorks.

“We don’t want anything. We want less. Less taxes, less government,” Swift said. “Alinsky understood how people worked. The rules reflect organizing principles that work.”

Swift was referring to a book, “Rules for Radicals,” by Saul Alinsky, at a 9 a.m. to 3 p.m. grassroots organizing training session in Albany at Cafe 230 on Broad Avenue. The session was sponsored by the Albany Area Tea Party Patriots and FreedomWorks.

Swift told the crowd that Alinsky advised those who organize against the status quo to use 12 rules.

The rules:

1. Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have.
2. Never go outside the expertise of your people.
3. Whenever possible go outside the expertise of your enemy.
4. Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.
5. Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.
6. A good tactic is one your people enjoy.
7. A tactic that drags on too long is a drag.
8. Keep the pressure on. Never let up.
9. The threat is usually more terrifying than the threat itself.’
10. If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.
11. The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.
12. Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it and polarize it.

No wonder they are so familiar with this guy, they study it!!
 
Albany's FreedomWorks manager trains group | FreedomWorks

ALBANY — Using the rules of a well-known leftist organizer can work just as well for organizations desiring to influence the government to stop taxing and spending, said Nan E. Swift, a campaign manager for FreedomWorks.

“We don’t want anything. We want less. Less taxes, less government,” Swift said. “Alinsky understood how people worked. The rules reflect organizing principles that work.”

Swift was referring to a book, “Rules for Radicals,” by Saul Alinsky, at a 9 a.m. to 3 p.m. grassroots organizing training session in Albany at Cafe 230 on Broad Avenue. The session was sponsored by the Albany Area Tea Party Patriots and FreedomWorks.

Swift told the crowd that Alinsky advised those who organize against the status quo to use 12 rules.

The rules:

1. Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have.
2. Never go outside the expertise of your people.
3. Whenever possible go outside the expertise of your enemy.
4. Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.
5. Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.
6. A good tactic is one your people enjoy.
7. A tactic that drags on too long is a drag.
8. Keep the pressure on. Never let up.
9. The threat is usually more terrifying than the threat itself.’
10. If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.
11. The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.
12. Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it and polarize it.

No wonder they are so familiar with this guy, they study it!!

What's good for the goose.... :cool:
 
FreedomWorks, the tea party group headed by former Republican House leader Dick Armey, gives copies of “Rules for Radicals” to its leaders. “His tactics when it comes to grass-roots organizing are incredibly effective,” FreedomWorks spokesman Adam Brandon told The Wall Street Journal. Tea partyers aggressively confronting lawmakers at town hall meetings is straight from Alinsky’s playbook.

Conservative icon William F. Buckley Jr. called the Chicago radical "very close to being an organizational genius."

As a former history professor, Gingrich not only understands Alinsky’s motif, he’s made it a key part of his campaign.

“Gingrich's clashes against the establishment are classic Alinsky,” writes Philip Klein, senior editorial writer for the conservative Washington Examiner.

Who is Saul Alinsky, and why is Newt Gingrich so obsessed with him? - CSMonitor.com

Is that the Tea Party's own FreedomWorks speaking highly of Saul Alinsky? Yes,yes it is
 
Albany's FreedomWorks manager trains group | FreedomWorks

ALBANY — Using the rules of a well-known leftist organizer can work just as well for organizations desiring to influence the government to stop taxing and spending, said Nan E. Swift, a campaign manager for FreedomWorks.

“We don’t want anything. We want less. Less taxes, less government,” Swift said. “Alinsky understood how people worked. The rules reflect organizing principles that work.”

Swift was referring to a book, “Rules for Radicals,” by Saul Alinsky, at a 9 a.m. to 3 p.m. grassroots organizing training session in Albany at Cafe 230 on Broad Avenue. The session was sponsored by the Albany Area Tea Party Patriots and FreedomWorks.

Swift told the crowd that Alinsky advised those who organize against the status quo to use 12 rules.

The rules:

1. Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have.
2. Never go outside the expertise of your people.
3. Whenever possible go outside the expertise of your enemy.
4. Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.
5. Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.
6. A good tactic is one your people enjoy.
7. A tactic that drags on too long is a drag.
8. Keep the pressure on. Never let up.
9. The threat is usually more terrifying than the threat itself.’
10. If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.
11. The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.
12. Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it and polarize it.

No wonder they are so familiar with this guy, they study it!!

What's good for the goose.... :cool:

Go ahead show me a Dem org that hands this crap out. BTW insults will not count as an answer
 
Newt Gingrich is a Saul Alinsky Republican | Campaign 2012 | Washington Examiner

Though Gingrich has spent several decades profiting from being part of the Washington establishment, the fact that he's been attacked by so-called "elites" has become self-validating.

And the way he scolded CNN moderator John King in last Thursday's South Carolina debate followed Alinsky's 13th tactical rule, which states: "Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it."

Alinsky argued that a faceless target such as City Hall, or in this case, the mainstream media, isn't as powerful of a target as individual person. And by "freeze it," he meant that whoever the target is shouldn't be allowed to pin the blame on somebody else.

King, as Fox's Juan Williams did in the prior debate, allowed Gingrich to personalize his attack on the media. And when King tried to claim that it was another network, ABC, that had aired the interview with his ex-wife that had prompted the question about whether he had ever sought an "open marriage," Gingrich froze the target.


"John, it was repeated by your network," Gingrich hollered. "You chose to start the debate with it. Don't try to blame somebody else."

I call it whining but whining is a tactic too
 
Rightwing politicians and propagandists accusing Obama of Alinsky tactics,

classic projection.

The Left has been using Saul Alinsky's tactics for decades.
The Right is just now catching on.
The Middle is STILL getting fucked by BOTH sides.

Cue Led Zeppelin, "The Song Remains The Same".... :eusa_shhh:

See, I showed a link from Freedomworks showing they think his book is the best thing since sliced bread. You showed nothing and expect to be taken seriously. You got that link yet or are you going to type another Haiku?
 
Rightwing politicians and propagandists accusing Obama of Alinsky tactics,

classic projection.

The Left has been using Saul Alinsky's tactics for decades.
The Right is just now catching on.
The Middle is STILL getting fucked by BOTH sides.

Cue Led Zeppelin, "The Song Remains The Same".... :eusa_shhh:

See, I showed a link from Freedomworks showing they think his book is the best thing since sliced bread. You showed nothing and expect to be taken seriously. You got that link yet or are you going to type another Haiku?

The Union News.: Camp Obama teaches ACORN-Alinsky tactics

How Obama and ACORN are Sabotaging America - HUMAN EVENTS

Here you go, read it and weep...
 
Newt Gingrich is a Saul Alinsky Republican | Campaign 2012 | Washington Examiner

Though Gingrich has spent several decades profiting from being part of the Washington establishment, the fact that he's been attacked by so-called "elites" has become self-validating.

And the way he scolded CNN moderator John King in last Thursday's South Carolina debate followed Alinsky's 13th tactical rule, which states: "Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it."

Alinsky argued that a faceless target such as City Hall, or in this case, the mainstream media, isn't as powerful of a target as individual person. And by "freeze it," he meant that whoever the target is shouldn't be allowed to pin the blame on somebody else.

King, as Fox's Juan Williams did in the prior debate, allowed Gingrich to personalize his attack on the media. And when King tried to claim that it was another network, ABC, that had aired the interview with his ex-wife that had prompted the question about whether he had ever sought an "open marriage," Gingrich froze the target.


"John, it was repeated by your network," Gingrich hollered. "You chose to start the debate with it. Don't try to blame somebody else."

I call it whining but whining is a tactic too


If whining is a tactic Obama has that tactic down pat!
 
Newt Gingrich is a Saul Alinsky Republican | Campaign 2012 | Washington Examiner

Though Gingrich has spent several decades profiting from being part of the Washington establishment, the fact that he's been attacked by so-called "elites" has become self-validating.

And the way he scolded CNN moderator John King in last Thursday's South Carolina debate followed Alinsky's 13th tactical rule, which states: "Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it."

Alinsky argued that a faceless target such as City Hall, or in this case, the mainstream media, isn't as powerful of a target as individual person. And by "freeze it," he meant that whoever the target is shouldn't be allowed to pin the blame on somebody else.

King, as Fox's Juan Williams did in the prior debate, allowed Gingrich to personalize his attack on the media. And when King tried to claim that it was another network, ABC, that had aired the interview with his ex-wife that had prompted the question about whether he had ever sought an "open marriage," Gingrich froze the target.


"John, it was repeated by your network," Gingrich hollered. "You chose to start the debate with it. Don't try to blame somebody else."

I call it whining but whining is a tactic too


If whining is a tactic Obama has that tactic down pat!

Wow, did you just ignore Freedomworks TEACHING Saul Alinsky to attack Obama?
 
The Left has been using Saul Alinsky's tactics for decades.
The Right is just now catching on.
The Middle is STILL getting fucked by BOTH sides.

Cue Led Zeppelin, "The Song Remains The Same".... :eusa_shhh:

See, I showed a link from Freedomworks showing they think his book is the best thing since sliced bread. You showed nothing and expect to be taken seriously. You got that link yet or are you going to type another Haiku?

The Union News.: Camp Obama teaches ACORN-Alinsky tactics

How Obama and ACORN are Sabotaging America - HUMAN EVENTS

Here you go, read it and weep...

So nothing showing they are teaching Alinksky? From your own link it says "Saul Alinsky was written on a Chalkboard". From Freedomworks own website they promote Alinsky and gives the book out to participants even calls him a genius.

And you think those are the same, sure. :doubt:
 
See, I showed a link from Freedomworks showing they think his book is the best thing since sliced bread. You showed nothing and expect to be taken seriously. You got that link yet or are you going to type another Haiku?

The Union News.: Camp Obama teaches ACORN-Alinsky tactics

How Obama and ACORN are Sabotaging America - HUMAN EVENTS

Here you go, read it and weep...

So nothing showing they are teaching Alinksky? From your own link it says "Saul Alinsky was written on a Chalkboard". From Freedomworks own website they promote Alinsky and gives the book out to participants even calls him a genius.

And you think those are the same, sure. :doubt:

From the first link, you might want to learn to read, it's better than the pictures...
Another slide of a camp trainer identified as Mike Kruglik is equally telling. Kruglik happens to be the Alinsky disciple who first taught Obama hardball organizing tactics on the South Side. He was Obama's boss in the '80s. Kruglik now works for the Chicago-based Gamaliel Foundation, which trains and deploys radicals across the country.

Kruglik once declared Obama "the undisputed master of agitation," according to David Freddoso, author of the best-seller "The Case Against Barack Obama."

Obama learned well from the master agitator. Alinsky taught future radicals that bad things are often done for the right reasons, love without power is sentimental mush, power must be taken, and all change comes about as a result of threat and pressure.

Obama calls his Alinskyite experience "the best education I ever had."

Now he's passing it on to his groupies. He recently told supporters in Nevada, a state that will be hotly contested, to sharpen their elbows in the final lap of the race. Confront Republicans, he said, and "get in their faces."

"Be absolutely ruthless," adds Camp Obama director Jocelyn Woodards, who leads the intensive two-day training course for campers in Chicago.

In the Alinsky model, organizing is code for agitating. For revolution. He had no patience for liberals who merely talked of change.

"Liberals protest," he wrote in "Rules for Radicals," while "radicals rebel." Liberals become "indignant," while "radicals become fighting mad and go into action."

"Liberals give and take oral arguments," Alinsky added. "Radicals give and take the hard, dirty, bitter way of life."

Alinsky's paragon of radicalism was Satan, to whom he dedicated the first edition of "Rules": "Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom — Lucifer."

Dirty street fighting is at the heart of Obama's organizing. While he stands above the fray, his minions at ACORN are threatening, intimidating, confronting and even committing voter fraud. This is Alinsky's end-justifies-means morality in action. Whatever it takes to win the revolution.
 

So nothing showing they are teaching Alinksky? From your own link it says "Saul Alinsky was written on a Chalkboard". From Freedomworks own website they promote Alinsky and gives the book out to participants even calls him a genius.

And you think those are the same, sure. :doubt:

From the first link, you might want to learn to read, it's better than the pictures...
Another slide of a camp trainer identified as Mike Kruglik is equally telling. Kruglik happens to be the Alinsky disciple who first taught Obama hardball organizing tactics on the South Side. He was Obama's boss in the '80s. Kruglik now works for the Chicago-based Gamaliel Foundation, which trains and deploys radicals across the country.

Kruglik once declared Obama "the undisputed master of agitation," according to David Freddoso, author of the best-seller "The Case Against Barack Obama."

Obama learned well from the master agitator. Alinsky taught future radicals that bad things are often done for the right reasons, love without power is sentimental mush, power must be taken, and all change comes about as a result of threat and pressure.

Obama calls his Alinskyite experience "the best education I ever had."

Now he's passing it on to his groupies. He recently told supporters in Nevada, a state that will be hotly contested, to sharpen their elbows in the final lap of the race. Confront Republicans, he said, and "get in their faces."

"Be absolutely ruthless," adds Camp Obama director Jocelyn Woodards, who leads the intensive two-day training course for campers in Chicago.

In the Alinsky model, organizing is code for agitating. For revolution. He had no patience for liberals who merely talked of change.

"Liberals protest," he wrote in "Rules for Radicals," while "radicals rebel." Liberals become "indignant," while "radicals become fighting mad and go into action."

"Liberals give and take oral arguments," Alinsky added. "Radicals give and take the hard, dirty, bitter way of life."

Alinsky's paragon of radicalism was Satan, to whom he dedicated the first edition of "Rules": "Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom — Lucifer."

Dirty street fighting is at the heart of Obama's organizing. While he stands above the fray, his minions at ACORN are threatening, intimidating, confronting and even committing voter fraud. This is Alinsky's end-justifies-means morality in action. Whatever it takes to win the revolution.

Posting the article doesnt change what I said...here it is again:

So nothing showing they are teaching Alinksky? From your own link it says "Saul Alinsky was written on a Chalkboard". From Freedomworks own website they promote Alinsky and gives the book out to participants even calls him a genius.

And you think those are the same, sure.

See I showed you a direct link to Saul...you showed a circumstantial link playing 3 or 4 degrees of separation. You think those are the same? :lol:

You've given up trying to defend the right TEACHING Alinsky...That says alot. :lol:
 
See I showed you a direct link to Saul...you showed a circumstantial link playing 3 or 4 degrees of separation. You think those are the same? :lol:

You've given up trying to defend the right TEACHING Alinsky...That says alot. :lol:

What's really funny is that nowhere in this thread did I defend Freedomworks for teaching Alinsky's model. Your hyper-partisan ass is simply making shit up as you go. :eusa_liar:
 
See I showed you a direct link to Saul...you showed a circumstantial link playing 3 or 4 degrees of separation. You think those are the same? :lol:

You've given up trying to defend the right TEACHING Alinsky...That says alot. :lol:

What's really funny is that nowhere in this thread did I defend Freedomworks for teaching Alinsky's model. Your hyper-partisan ass is simply making shit up as you go. :eusa_liar:

you attempted to defend them by saying "whats good for the goose" but I'm sure you werent trying to defend or deflect with that comment. Thats because you cant defend it...which is funny in itself
 
See I showed you a direct link to Saul...you showed a circumstantial link playing 3 or 4 degrees of separation. You think those are the same? :lol:

You've given up trying to defend the right TEACHING Alinsky...That says alot. :lol:

What's really funny is that nowhere in this thread did I defend Freedomworks for teaching Alinsky's model. Your hyper-partisan ass is simply making shit up as you go. :eusa_liar:

you attempted to defend them by saying "whats good for the goose" but I'm sure you werent trying to defend or deflect with that comment. Thats because you cant defend it...which is funny in itself

If that's what you read into it, that's up to you. I think the Right/Left bashfest is stupid. I don't ascribe to either point of view, as evidenced by my subsequent post about the Middle being FUCKED by BOTH.
 

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