Freedom to Fascism

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    America: Freedom to Fascism

    America, From Freedom to Fascism, by Aaron Russo

    Ron Paul is in this ducumentary and he agrees that the Federal Reserve & income tax are unconstitutional. I must not have known who he was when I first watched this.

    And who keeps telling me that Jefferson warned about government getting too big? This documentary shows a few of Jefferson's quotes warning us about Corporations and Banks getting too powerful, not government. So he was smart enough to worry about both getting too powerful.

    The Federal Reserve and income tax are illegal/unconstitutional. Don't argue it until you see the documentary. There is no other documentary like it.

    And if you watch this documentary, you'll completely understand why our economy is in the tank. You'll also understand why the Great Depression occured. Same rich bankers caused BOTH! Ok, so maybe the bankers back then are dead, but their grandkids are alive and well.

    And I'm not a Democrat on this one. Bill Clinton served these rich bankers too. For one, he passed legislation that made it harder for people to go bankrupt, and at the same time allowed the credit card companies to charge more in interest. Not to mention NAFTA and CAFTA.

    It is all designed to put us in further debt and do away with the middle class. Fascism! Corporatism! Like back in England when there was a ruling class and then peasants/surfts. Exactly why we seperated from England. And why we dumped that tea in Boston.

    Anyone who doesn't believe that the bankers bribed Congress to pass the Federal Reserve Act in 1913, don't know what they are talking about. Even the president in 1913 admitted it. Wilson said, "I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world. No longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men."
    ~ Woodrow Wilson

    You can not deny this after watching the documentary. And if you won't watch it, then you remain in the dark. And because most Americans can't wrap their tiny brains around this, the politicians will never do anything about it. Dr. Paul would, but you see what the bankers/government did to him during the GOP debates. They made him DISAPPEAR!!!

    This documentary will explain:

    That the Federal Reserve Act didn't give congress any new taxing power.
    That it says voluntary, not required to pay income tax.
    They passed it during xmas break when many senators were at home
    That no one can show the law saying people must pay an income tax
    How many people are found not guilty when the evidence is shown, but many judges refuse to let the facts in because they are in on this too.
    How the IRS won't let us audit the gold in Fort Knox.
    The difference between direct and indirect taxes
    Not enough states ratified the Federal Reserve Act
    The Supreme court said income tax is unconstitutional, yet the lower courts suggest that this doesn't matter?
    The bankers have more power/control of our government than our elected politicians

    And much much more.

    Simply, if you haven't seen this documentary, then you don't know what you are talking about. And once you see this documentary, you'll have a whole new opinion on why the economy is in the tank. It is on purpose. The more we go into debt, the better it is for the bankers. They just got $750 billion more!!!

    New world order! That's why we are at war in the middle east. We want them to be a part of the new world order.
     
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    I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world. No longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men.
    ~ Woodrow Wilson

    “If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.”
    – Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Treasury Secretary Albert Gallatin (1802)
    A private bank, the Federal Reserve System, controls the issuance of the money - the dollar - of the United States. Through this control of credit, the Federal Reserve creates booms - inflation - and busts - deflation. By controlling access to this credit, favored corporations "grow up around" the banks, e.g. AIG is favored, Ford Motor is not, Bank of America is favored, Republican Windows is not, JPMorgan, [Rothschild controlled] is favored, non-Jewish corporations are not.

    Once a worker takes on a mortgage and the central bank creates a deflation and depression, the worker loses his house to the bank, and finds himself out on the street, ie, "homeless."

    Jefferson predicted exactly what we are experiencing today - American people homeless on the continent their fathers conquered for their "posterity."
     
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    This should be the only conversation any of us are having, and yet no one has anything to say?

    Jobs, taxes, economy, deficits, debts, inflation, bankruptsy, etc.

    THIS IS THE ROOT CAUSE OF ALL THESE PROBLEMS!!!

    If we don't end the Federal Reserve and IRS, then we are not free, our country is not great, and we are owned by bankers.
     
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    One of the things that our partisan friends seem to not yet understand is that the so called left wingers and the far right wingers are and have been complaining about the SAME PEOPLE all along.

    Of course the FED as currently designed is nothing but a gigantic FIX which insures that those well connected to the government will get rich at everyone else's expense.

    I've just listened to Ron Paul AND Bernie Sanders on CSPAN and I find myself agreeing with some part of what BOTH of them are saying.

    Just as I agree in large part with the complaints the AUSTRIAN economists have been making.

    Our government is so corrupt and so well designed to appear to be TWO WILDLY different parties when itBOTH OF THEM are really basically the party of the BANKING AND INDUSTRIALIST MONIED classes.

    We have the WORST of both socialism and capitalism in this nation, folks.

    We don't have either socialism or capitalism, and the MIXED economy we DO have is MIXED in such a way that it essantially benefits ONLY the INSIDERS....and the insiders CONTROL the banking and investment community, the government, the media and all the power nexuses in this nation.

    The reason this is so difficult to understand is because both parties lies their asses off, and people believe them when they say, for example they're conservatives (only they don't act like conservatives) oir they say "We're for the working classes" and then screw the working classes with things like FREE TRADE and allowing union busting and illegal immigrants.

    This game is the good cop/bad cop game. It's all rhetoric all the time and NO actions that support those high ideals they BOTH claim they stand for.

    People keep falling for it, and nobody questions the underlying falsity of it UNTIL we have one of the economic rapings of our economy like we're having now
     
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    WASHINGTON -- What should you do when your government oppresses you with illegal laws, illegally confiscates your money and property, and refuses to even justify its actions to you?
    That was the dilemma facing the Founding Fathers, of course, and it was the dilemma facing a roomful of income tax protesters meeting last week in the nation's capital. The symposium was called by the We the People Foundation for Constitutional Education Inc., to discuss the topic "Are the Income and Social Security Taxes Legal?"

    Originally the foundation had hoped to have an academic-type format, with arguments and counter-arguments presented on both sides of the issue. "The foundation itself has not taken a position on the legality of the income tax," explained We the People's Robert L. Schulz.

    There was just one problem: Nobody in the federal government would send an authority to present the government's case -- if it has one -- for the legality of the income tax. Not the IRS, not President Clinton, not Senate President Pro Tempore Trent Lott, not House Speaker Dennis Hastert. They all refused even to respond to their certified, registered and very respectful invitations to send representatives to the symposium.

    "I consider this very newsworthy that they (the IRS) didn't show up," Banister said to the audience. "I somehow found my way from California to this meeting. They're two blocks away and couldn't spare one prosecutor. Is it that the IRS and the Treasury Department still don't have enough people to spare one for a couple of hours?"

    "They're one short," shouted a member of the audience.

    But Banister could not have been too surprised by the IRS's refusal to talk. The IRS treated him the same way when it was his employer. He had respectfully written to his superiors, explaining that he was concerned about some of the arguments and documentation he had received from opponents of the income tax, and might have to resign if he could not answer those arguments to his satisfaction. He asked for a meeting. Instead his firearm was taken from him, he was placed on administrative leave, and he received a written reply stating that "there is no reason to have a meeting. This will be the last time we will reply to your request." Then he learned from an office memo that his "voluntary resignation" had been accepted.
     
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    Look what they do to any politician that spreaks up. Everyone thinks Dennis Kucenich and Ron Paul are nuts. And they aren't the first politicians to be run out of washington for speaking up.

    So it is no wonder that the Dems don't say anything either. We need to raise hell and tell them we know about this. We need to take our country back.

    But we won't, will we.
     
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    not until the food lines amd fema camps kick in....
     
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    Actually, that's a good point. What do we do when these bankers crash the economy? We turn to our government for help. And the bankers have them in their hip pockets.

    And what does the government do? Turn over $750 billion to the bankers who crashed the economy?

    And remember the Federal Reserve bailed out AIG without going through Congress?

    This dvd will also explain how Congress ignores its responsibility to regulate the Feds and how Bush/Obama/Clinton appoint a Berneke or Greenspan from a list of names these rich bankers give them.

    In other words, 99% of Americans haven't a clue how much these bankers own us.

    I can't wait for you to see this dvd. This guy video taped an IRS agent during an audit and the irs agent was trying to bully the guy, lied in court, etc. He could not show him where it says he is required to pay an income tax. Yadayada.

    If you haven't seem the documentary, you are at an incredible disadvantage. It is a must see. Until you see it, you will never realize you are a slave. Or you are not free. Everyone talks about freedom. Watch this dvd and then tell me you are free. Can't do anything without having to let the government know about it.

    PS. You'll understand everything after you've seen the dvd. They also explain how the USA was wiretapping Americans when Clinton was in office. So 9-11 was not the reason bush has been spying on Americans. What is the reason? It better be good.

    And how they want you to wear a chip, or mark of the beast. Fox News had the guy on who owns the company, and he was explaining they want all Americans to be chipped eventually. Or to have a national id, even while illegals flood into the country.

    PLEASE see this dvd. It will change your life.
     
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    Even Average Joe is posting something about the Feds. Looks similar to what I'm saying.
     
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    oh indeed.. people are becoming aware..but the rabbit hole runs deep...
     

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