Freedom of religion

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    Freedom of religion is a principle that supports the freedom of an individual or community, in public or private, to manifest religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship, and observance; the concept is generally recognized also to include the freedom to change religion or not to follow any religion. The freedom to leave or discontinue membership in a religion or religious group —in religious terms called "apostasy" —is also a fundamental part of religious freedom, covered by Article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

    Freedom of religion is considered by many people and nations to be a fundamental human right.
    Freedom of religion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    This means we do not have a state religion.

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    We never have had a state religion.
     
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    Went to a church small group Bible study, and watched dvds with David Barton discussing "Our American Heritage". During one section he discussed how one of the signers of the Declaration of Independence, Benjamin Rush, sent a letter to Thomas Jefferson. In this letter he was concerned about a "state" or "government" religion. In reply, in PRIVATE correspondence back to Rush, the statement regarding "separation of church and state" was mentioned. According to information in the video, Jefferson was assuring Rush that so long as each remained separate -- the Church would do what it needed to do and the Government did what it had to do -- with no interference from the other.

    Guess what? Government has been quite involved in the activities/business of the Church. Do you suppose all these subtle changes will ultimately grossly effect this freedom? A right guaranteed by the First Amendment.......

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    The state has never had a religion. Freedom of religion is also something that many( in this city) use for tax exempt status. They convert their home into a "place of worship" .. make up their own religion/cult and ... guess what.... no property taxes.
     
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    Some say otherwise. They say the US has ALWAYS been a Christian nation and always wil be.

    See koshergrll, aka Allie Baba.
     
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    There is a significant difference between a state religion (aka theocracy) and statistical representation of the most-commonly practiced religion in a country.
     
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    Actually, the First amendment means we don't have a state religion.

    The Universal Declaration of Human Rights is a piece of paper that doesn't guarantee jack squat.
     
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    Freedom of religion is a Judeo-Christian principle.
     
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    Freedom of religion in America is generally attributed to John Locke, Thomas Paine and Thomas Jefferson
    http://www.piney.com/Jefferson.html

    Do you know the difference between theism and Judeo Christianity? Many of the Founding Fathers were theist, not Jews or Christians. Freedom of religion is NOT a Christian principle.

    Freedom of religious worship was established in the Buddhist Empire of ancient India by Asoka the Great in the 3rd century BC, which was encapsulated in the Edicts of Ashoka. Ancient Jews fleeing from persecution in their homeland 2,500 years ago settled in India and never faced anti-Semitism.

    It was not invented by Jews and Christians. It was taught by Buddhists long ago.

    The Buddha encouraged His followers to learn about other religions and to compare His Teachings with other teachings. The Buddha says that if there are reasonable and rational teachings in other religions, His followers are free to respect such teachings.

    Some religionists try to keep their followers in the dark, some of them are not even allowed to touch other religious objects or books. They are instructed not to listen to the preachings of other religions. They are enjoined not to doubt the teachings of their own religion, however unconvincing their teachings may appear to be. If anyone of them exercises freedom of thought and realizes that he had been in the dark all the time, then it is alleged that the devil has possessed his mind. The poor man is given no opportunity to use his common sense, education, of his intelligence. Those who wish to change their views on religion are taught to believe that they are not perfect enough to be allowed to use free will in judging anything for themselves.

    According to the Buddha, religion should be left to one's own free choice.

    Buddhism is not to be promoted by force. That would be a pretense, pretending to propagate justice and love by means of oppression and injustice. It is of no importance to a follower of the Buddha whether a person calls himself a Buddhist or not.

    These are the Buddha's words:

    In the Kalama Sutta,the Buddha gave the following guidelines to a group of young people:

    'Do not accept anything based upon mere reports,
    traditions or hearsay,
    Nor upon the authority of religious texts,
    Nor upon mere reasons and arguments,
    Nor upon one's own inference,
    Nor upon anything which appears to be true,
    Nor upon one's own speculative opinion,
    Nor upon another's seeming ability,
    Nor upon the consideration: 'This is our Teacher.'
    'But, when you know for yourselves that certain things are unwholesome and bad: tending to harm yourself of others, reject them.
    'And when you know for yourselves that certain things are wholesome and good: conducive to the spiritual welfare of yourself as well as others, accept and follow them.'
     
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    KG is NOT talking about the latter.
     

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