FREE SPEECH vs. HATE SPEECH, HARRASSMENT,

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    FREE SPEECH vs. HATE SPEECH, HARRASSMENT, TRESPASSING,
    DISTURBING THE PEACE
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    Rev. Phelps and his clan can say anything they want to within distance to cause a disturbance at funerals of fallen soldiers it becomes harassment and there is a law against harassment, disturbing the peace and hate speech. They should get a restraining order against this clan restraining them from protesting within 100 yards and disturbing the peace of a funeral.

    A funeral is a private ceremony and attended only by invitation and Rev. Phelps and his clan are funeral crashers spewing hate speech.

    He can do and say whatever the hell he want within a certain distance but the line is drawn when it becomes hate speech, harassment and disturbing he peace of a funeral without violating his First Amendment Rights. There is a laws that prevent harassment, hate speech and disturbing the peace.

    The First Amendment needs to be amended to make what he is doing a crime without violating his free speech rights. We owe that to our fallen heroes.
     
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    LilOlLady, unfortunately America has a long history of not honoring their heroes. In fact our country men hold most of us who've served in contempt. This started in the 60's, and continues today. What this 'church" group does to harass grieving families as they lay their loved ones to rest is reprehensible. It should not be tolerated in this society. One thing that I've learned in life is that everyone has a trigger point that would cause them to react harshly to this type of negative stimulus. I'm one of the lucky parents. Both of my sons returned from multiple Iraqi tours unscathed. I couldn't imagine laying one of my boys to rest, and having this group of maggots show up. One day the members of this church are going to be hurt very badly. I just hope that things don't escalate to this level.

    It is criminal for this country to send its young men and women into harms way to fight a war that it doesn't have the will to win.
     
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    The answer is to persuade your local legislators to propose a law setting guidelines for behavior at funerals, including wide buffer zones, so as to protect the privacy of the attendees. The SC left a large loophole for just such a law in their decision.
     
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    Dont most localities already have such guidelines in place and the Westboro assholes follow those guidelines? I think that people have the mental image of them right at the funeral, heckling the family members. Thats simply not the case. I hate Phelps but we can hardly ban the right to free speech(however vile it might be) because we dont like it and it makes us feel uncomfortable.
     
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    Why is hate speech illegal in your world? Are you aware that Pakistan's Minority Minister was just assassinated because he spoke up against laws that restrict what you call hate speech? People are being killed all over the world over the right to say what they want, and you want to shut down a group that no one pays attention to because everyone knows they are scumbags.
     
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    What you speak of is true liberty. And if such speech makes people angry...the proper take of any sane individual is to ignore people as Phelps. They will eventually fade away.

    As long as the light shines on them? It gives them power.

    Best is to just ignore speech you don't like. No Creedence. It will take care of itself.
     
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    Again? If no one pays attention to them? They dry up, fade away...into irrelevance.
     
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    We protect the speech of those such as Westboro, namvets of the far stupid right, and the wacks of the far left. (1) Because the most hated speech is the one that has to be protected in order to protect the rational speech of the rest of us. (2) Because of such hate speech back shadows the light of truth. We can never silence the haters for philosophical and personal reasons.

    Once again Alito demonstrates he simply is not of SCOTUS material.
     
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    *I* sympathisized with Alito's view as well...but then SOME of us have open minds and don't live in your dark Dillusional world, Fakey.
     
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    T, you are a tool, and all know it. But keep speaking because your hate is leaking. :lol:
     

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