Free cars for poor fuel road rage

[DiamondDave]

oh.. the state JUST takes care of insurance, fuel, upkeep, etc

Well.. in a land of personal freedoms, liberties, and responsibilities.. if you want private transpostation, those are YOUR responsibilities

If that is the kind of CHARITY you want.. I suggest helping fund a CHARITY that possibly does such a thing... not expecting the government to do it as if every other citizen or the country OWES it to the people who may wish to use this

 

[Seraega]

oh.. the state JUST takes care of insurance, fuel, upkeep, etc

Well.. in a land of personal freedoms, liberties, and responsibilities.. if you want private transpostation, those are YOUR responsibilities

If that is the kind of CHARITY you want.. I suggest helping fund a CHARITY that possibly does such a thing... not expecting the government to do it as if every other citizen or the country OWES it to the people who may wish to use this

Earth to DD, the last 30 years have been a testament to the fact that doing nothing while spouting off about boot straps and personal responsibility is not working....

 

[Nik]

Okay, my first real job, I got was on the highway, my first apartment a few blocks away. I walked to and from work everyday down a highway where guys would stop because they thought I was a prostitute. It wasn't easy, but I did it. Eventually I got a better job, and I took a bus. How about free bus passes instead of free cars with insurance?

Except that busses don't run everywhere, because public transit in this country sucks. To qualify for the program and a free car you need to be in an area where there isn't good public transit. Bus passes for those people would be largely useless.

 

[DiamondDave]

oh.. the state JUST takes care of insurance, fuel, upkeep, etc

Well.. in a land of personal freedoms, liberties, and responsibilities.. if you want private transpostation, those are YOUR responsibilities

If that is the kind of CHARITY you want.. I suggest helping fund a CHARITY that possibly does such a thing... not expecting the government to do it as if every other citizen or the country OWES it to the people who may wish to use this

Earth to DD, the last 30 years have been a testament to the fact that doing nothing while spouting off about boot straps and personal responsibility is not working....

Earth to socialism supporter.. nothing in the past 200+ years of the constitution that puts our government as a socialist/communist entitlement heaven either

As stated.. I fully support supporting charities to VOLUNTARILY help causes YOU think are worthwhile... much different than thinking that people are OWED it or that government is required to take care of your every personal need

 

[DiamondDave]

Okay, my first real job, I got was on the highway, my first apartment a few blocks away. I walked to and from work everyday down a highway where guys would stop because they thought I was a prostitute. It wasn't easy, but I did it. Eventually I got a better job, and I took a bus. How about free bus passes instead of free cars with insurance?

Except that busses don't run everywhere, because public transit in this country sucks. To qualify for the program and a free car you need to be in an area where there isn't good public transit. Bus passes for those people would be largely useless.

Funny... it is your personal choice to live there then.. or you personal choice to work somewhere else... your personal choice not to go to the auto auction and buy a temporary $300 car and insure it with only liability insurance for 6 months or so..

It's not the government's job to handle every little aspect of your personal wants or well being... this entitlement bullshit has to stop

 

[catzmeow]

Except that busses don't run everywhere, because public transit in this country sucks. To qualify for the program and a free car you need to be in an area where there isn't good public transit. Bus passes for those people would be largely useless.

A bus pass would be essentially useless in my neighborhood, I'd have to walk 7 miles to the nearest bus stop.

 

[Seraega]

Okay, my first real job, I got was on the highway, my first apartment a few blocks away. I walked to and from work everyday down a highway where guys would stop because they thought I was a prostitute. It wasn't easy, but I did it. Eventually I got a better job, and I took a bus. How about free bus passes instead of free cars with insurance?

Except that busses don't run everywhere, because public transit in this country sucks. To qualify for the program and a free car you need to be in an area where there isn't good public transit. Bus passes for those people would be largely useless.

Funny... it is your personal choice to live there then.. or you personal choice to work somewhere else... your personal choice not to go to the auto auction and buy a temporary $300 car and insure it with only liability insurance for 6 months or so..

It's not the government's job to handle every little aspect of your personal wants or well being... this entitlement bullshit has to stop

We've had a whole 4 1/2 months of "entitlement bullshit" and already it's "got to stop??" What the hell is wrong with you people. We elected a president who gives a shit about real Americans for a change. He doesn't just care about the super rich and the corporations, but the rest of us working stiffs who just want a little leveling of the playing field. OMG what a disaster. Socialism run amuck clearly.

We've suffered for at least the last 30 years with your rugged individualism, your boot straps and casting aspersions upon anyone who struggled even the slightest. THAT is what we've had enough of. MORE than enough. It's time for the adults to be in charge. People who realize that we're living in a civilization, we're not just all pioneers out on the range where our actions have no effect on anybody else.

 

[DiamondDave]

Except that busses don't run everywhere, because public transit in this country sucks. To qualify for the program and a free car you need to be in an area where there isn't good public transit. Bus passes for those people would be largely useless.

Funny... it is your personal choice to live there then.. or you personal choice to work somewhere else... your personal choice not to go to the auto auction and buy a temporary $300 car and insure it with only liability insurance for 6 months or so..

It's not the government's job to handle every little aspect of your personal wants or well being... this entitlement bullshit has to stop

We've had a whole 4 1/2 months of "entitlement bullshit" and already it's "got to stop??" What the hell is wrong with you people. We elected a president who gives a shit about real Americans for a change. He doesn't just care about the super rich and the corporations, but the rest of us working stiffs who just want a little leveling of the playing field. OMG what a disaster. Socialism run amuck clearly.

We've suffered for at least the last 30 years with your rugged individualism, your boot straps and casting aspersions upon anyone who struggled even the slightest. THAT is what we've had enough of. MORE than enough. It's time for the adults to be in charge. People who realize that we're living in a civilization, we're not just all pioneers out on the range where our actions have no effect on anybody else.

No... conservatives, including myself, have not EVER been against entitlements except for the past 4 1/2 months

You can give a shit.. it does not mean that someone is OWED something from government or other taxpayers for their own personal responsibility and upkeep

You want something.. earn it

Oh... and I guess it is up to you and other Robin Hoods out there to determine how much is enough for people who do earn and provide for themselves, so that you can do your redistribution

Liberals... really generous... especially with the money of others

You wish to help in an endeavor such as this... more power to you... DONATE TO A CHARITY THAT DOES IT, on your own

 

[Annie]

I have 4 degrees, beyond h.s. BA's in history, sociology, and political science. Two of those from elite school. I also have MS in Ed. Admin. All with honors.

I've been riffed for this coming year, 10 years in parochial school. Granted I hid there, for reasons explained down the post. It doesn't make 'sense' in the idea that poor teachers should have gone first or by seniority. The parents and the kids love me. In fact, once the principal went to the board with her decision, there was backlash. However, the issue here is my principal has felt 'threatened' by me for many years. So, that is what it is. Now she's telling me that it's 99% certain I'll have a position next year, but I really want something else. I've been at the poverty level too long and now have been really kicked in the teeth.

I'm hearing disabled, while I have dual hi-tech hearing aids, my hearing isn't close to normal. Needless to say, I freak in interviews, especially in high school, where there may be as many as 9 sitting around a table. I have to isolate who's talking, to understand them, IF no one speaks over them. Doesn't engender confidence.

But I'm nearly to the point to illustrate that of nearly 300 grads from my school when I've been on staff, 85% have gone on to AP courses and passed. 15 of them have cited me as 'most influential teacher' through yearbooks or newspapers. I was invited to the graduation of one of mine who received a full ride to Yale. I've had grads that have thanked me for full rides to Stanford, Northwestern, CUNY, and U of I.

While I think they were the success, they thanked me and I'm about ready to lend their testimonials to my applications.

See, it's not entitlements, for myself or the kids, but hard work and expectations. I gave many a break, I knew they could do it with encouragement, now it's my turn.

 

[Againsheila]

Okay, my first real job, I got was on the highway, my first apartment a few blocks away. I walked to and from work everyday down a highway where guys would stop because they thought I was a prostitute. It wasn't easy, but I did it. Eventually I got a better job, and I took a bus. How about free bus passes instead of free cars with insurance?

Except that busses don't run everywhere, because public transit in this country sucks. To qualify for the program and a free car you need to be in an area where there isn't good public transit. Bus passes for those people would be largely useless.

There isn't a good public transportation system anywhere in the western part of this country but millions of people take the busses everyday anyway.

 

[Nik]

Okay, my first real job, I got was on the highway, my first apartment a few blocks away. I walked to and from work everyday down a highway where guys would stop because they thought I was a prostitute. It wasn't easy, but I did it. Eventually I got a better job, and I took a bus. How about free bus passes instead of free cars with insurance?

Except that busses don't run everywhere, because public transit in this country sucks. To qualify for the program and a free car you need to be in an area where there isn't good public transit. Bus passes for those people would be largely useless.

Funny... it is your personal choice to live there then.. or you personal choice to work somewhere else... your personal choice not to go to the auto auction and buy a temporary $300 car and insure it with only liability insurance for 6 months or so..

It's not the government's job to handle every little aspect of your personal wants or well being... this entitlement bullshit has to stop

Actually often poor people can't live near public transit hubs because public transit hubs tend to be expensive.

 

[Zoomie1980]

Except that busses don't run everywhere, because public transit in this country sucks. To qualify for the program and a free car you need to be in an area where there isn't good public transit. Bus passes for those people would be largely useless.

Funny... it is your personal choice to live there then.. or you personal choice to work somewhere else... your personal choice not to go to the auto auction and buy a temporary $300 car and insure it with only liability insurance for 6 months or so..

It's not the government's job to handle every little aspect of your personal wants or well being... this entitlement bullshit has to stop

We've had a whole 4 1/2 months of "entitlement bullshit" and already it's "got to stop??" What the hell is wrong with you people. We elected a president who gives a shit about real Americans for a change. He doesn't just care about the super rich and the corporations, but the rest of us working stiffs who just want a little leveling of the playing field. OMG what a disaster. Socialism run amuck clearly.

We've suffered for at least the last 30 years with your rugged individualism, your boot straps and casting aspersions upon anyone who struggled even the slightest. THAT is what we've had enough of. MORE than enough. It's time for the adults to be in charge. People who realize that we're living in a civilization, we're not just all pioneers out on the range where our actions have no effect on anybody else.

If you are of sound mind and body and can't take care of yourself, provide for yourself, I have one solution....

Figure it out YOURSELF, or DIE. I, nor anyone else, owes you anything, even life....

 

[Againsheila]

Funny... it is your personal choice to live there then.. or you personal choice to work somewhere else... your personal choice not to go to the auto auction and buy a temporary $300 car and insure it with only liability insurance for 6 months or so..

It's not the government's job to handle every little aspect of your personal wants or well being... this entitlement bullshit has to stop

We've had a whole 4 1/2 months of "entitlement bullshit" and already it's "got to stop??" What the hell is wrong with you people. We elected a president who gives a shit about real Americans for a change. He doesn't just care about the super rich and the corporations, but the rest of us working stiffs who just want a little leveling of the playing field. OMG what a disaster. Socialism run amuck clearly.

We've suffered for at least the last 30 years with your rugged individualism, your boot straps and casting aspersions upon anyone who struggled even the slightest. THAT is what we've had enough of. MORE than enough. It's time for the adults to be in charge. People who realize that we're living in a civilization, we're not just all pioneers out on the range where our actions have no effect on anybody else.

If you are of sound mind and body and can't take care of yourself, provide for yourself, I have one solution....

Figure it out YOURSELF, or DIE. I, nor anyone else, owes you anything, even life....

I don't agree with that. We owe all of our citizens that want to work, a job that pays a living wage. i don't think the richest country in the world should have working people that are homeless.

 

[Nik]

Funny... it is your personal choice to live there then.. or you personal choice to work somewhere else... your personal choice not to go to the auto auction and buy a temporary $300 car and insure it with only liability insurance for 6 months or so..

It's not the government's job to handle every little aspect of your personal wants or well being... this entitlement bullshit has to stop

We've had a whole 4 1/2 months of "entitlement bullshit" and already it's "got to stop??" What the hell is wrong with you people. We elected a president who gives a shit about real Americans for a change. He doesn't just care about the super rich and the corporations, but the rest of us working stiffs who just want a little leveling of the playing field. OMG what a disaster. Socialism run amuck clearly.

We've suffered for at least the last 30 years with your rugged individualism, your boot straps and casting aspersions upon anyone who struggled even the slightest. THAT is what we've had enough of. MORE than enough. It's time for the adults to be in charge. People who realize that we're living in a civilization, we're not just all pioneers out on the range where our actions have no effect on anybody else.

If you are of sound mind and body and can't take care of yourself, provide for yourself, I have one solution....

Figure it out YOURSELF, or DIE. I, nor anyone else, owes you anything, even life....

Ok then. Good to know that if I get 10 guys and go and rape/kill your family, you'll be A OK with it, since you couldn't protect your family.

You want individualism? Then go out, off the grid, and fend for yourself. But don't leech off of the roads other peoples money built, the medical advances other peoples money funded, and the public utilities other people have funded if you aren't going to give jack shit back.

 

[Zoomie1980]

I have 4 degrees, beyond h.s. BA's in history, sociology, and political science. Two of those from elite school. I also have MS in Ed. Admin. All with honors.

I've been riffed for this coming year, 10 years in parochial school. Granted I hid there, for reasons explained down the post. It doesn't make 'sense' in the idea that poor teachers should have gone first or by seniority. The parents and the kids love me. In fact, once the principal went to the board with her decision, there was backlash. However, the issue here is my principal has felt 'threatened' by me for many years. So, that is what it is. Now she's telling me that it's 99% certain I'll have a position next year, but I really want something else. I've been at the poverty level too long and now have been really kicked in the teeth.

I'm hearing disabled, while I have dual hi-tech hearing aids, my hearing isn't close to normal. Needless to say, I freak in interviews, especially in high school, where there may be as many as 9 sitting around a table. I have to isolate who's talking, to understand them, IF no one speaks over them. Doesn't engender confidence.

But I'm nearly to the point to illustrate that of nearly 300 grads from my school when I've been on staff, 85% have gone on to AP courses and passed. 15 of them have cited me as 'most influential teacher' through yearbooks or newspapers. I was invited to the graduation of one of mine who received a full ride to Yale. I've had grads that have thanked me for full rides to Stanford, Northwestern, CUNY, and U of I.

While I think they were the success, they thanked me and I'm about ready to lend their testimonials to my applications.

See, it's not entitlements, for myself or the kids, but hard work and expectations. I gave many a break, I knew they could do it with encouragement, now it's my turn.

History, sociology, poli-sci??? Yep, that's what business needs. MS in Ed Admin is useful, I suppose, you could be a principal or such....if you were willing to locate anywhere in the US.

Too bad you didn't spend all those $$$'s on getting an Engineering, Nursing, Computer Programming, Actuary Science, Accounting, etc..... degree.....something you could do something with other than teach school. We are actually hiring many of those types of folks.

I finally forced my daughter to drop her music degree, realizing it would never feed her. She went on to get an accounting degree, complete with CPA and then an international finance degree. Not a single person in her old music program are employed outside of teaching grade school music. None have performing arts jobs. All but two in her accounting are employed inside a year of graduation.

This is a word to the wise that have kids thinking about college or a kid in college right now. Spend your money (or your parent's money) on something that business ACTUALLY NEEDS, not on something you think is "cool" or "easy" or "your intellectual fit". At least if you want to do something beside teach high school or work in a low-level government job.

I know I need no, English majors, Music majors, sociologists, kenesiologists, phys ed, recreation management, fine arts, etc.... stuff. I need Engineers, Scientists, programmers, physicists, and mathemeticians.....and I have to go to India to get most of them because we don't make many of those here anymore......

 

[Againsheila]

I have 4 degrees, beyond h.s. BA's in history, sociology, and political science. Two of those from elite school. I also have MS in Ed. Admin. All with honors.

I've been riffed for this coming year, 10 years in parochial school. Granted I hid there, for reasons explained down the post. It doesn't make 'sense' in the idea that poor teachers should have gone first or by seniority. The parents and the kids love me. In fact, once the principal went to the board with her decision, there was backlash. However, the issue here is my principal has felt 'threatened' by me for many years. So, that is what it is. Now she's telling me that it's 99% certain I'll have a position next year, but I really want something else. I've been at the poverty level too long and now have been really kicked in the teeth.

I'm hearing disabled, while I have dual hi-tech hearing aids, my hearing isn't close to normal. Needless to say, I freak in interviews, especially in high school, where there may be as many as 9 sitting around a table. I have to isolate who's talking, to understand them, IF no one speaks over them. Doesn't engender confidence.

But I'm nearly to the point to illustrate that of nearly 300 grads from my school when I've been on staff, 85% have gone on to AP courses and passed. 15 of them have cited me as 'most influential teacher' through yearbooks or newspapers. I was invited to the graduation of one of mine who received a full ride to Yale. I've had grads that have thanked me for full rides to Stanford, Northwestern, CUNY, and U of I.

While I think they were the success, they thanked me and I'm about ready to lend their testimonials to my applications.

See, it's not entitlements, for myself or the kids, but hard work and expectations. I gave many a break, I knew they could do it with encouragement, now it's my turn.

History, sociology, poli-sci??? Yep, that's what business needs. MS in Ed Admin is useful, I suppose, you could be a principal or such....if you were willing to locate anywhere in the US.

Too bad you didn't spend all those $$$'s on getting an Engineering, Nursing, Computer Programming, Actuary Science, Accounting, etc..... degree.....something you could do something with other than teach school. We are actually hiring many of those types of folks.

I finally forced my daughter to drop her music degree, realizing it would never feed her. She went on to get an accounting degree, complete with CPA and then an international finance degree. Not a single person in her old music program are employed outside of teaching grade school music. None have performing arts jobs. All but two in her accounting are employed inside a year of graduation.

This is a word to the wise that have kids thinking about college or a kid in college right now. Spend your money (or your parent's money) on something that business ACTUALLY NEEDS, not on something you think is "cool" or "easy" or "your intellectual fit". At least if you want to do something beside teach high school or work in a low-level government job.

I know I need no, English majors, Music majors, sociologists, kenesiologists, phys ed, recreation management, fine arts, etc.... stuff. I need Engineers, Scientists, programmers, physicists, and mathemeticians.....and I have to go to India to get most of them because we don't make many of those here anymore......

I think that's crap and just an excuse for insourcing and outsourcing. The fact is that many kids with the right degrees can't get jobs in computers, etc because corporations are making justifications so they can bring in immigrants and pay them a lower wage.

Granted, because of the insourcing, fewer Americans are taking those classes and fewer colleges are offering them, why bother if you are going to go to India to get your employees anyway?

 

[Nik]

I have 4 degrees, beyond h.s. BA's in history, sociology, and political science. Two of those from elite school. I also have MS in Ed. Admin. All with honors.

I've been riffed for this coming year, 10 years in parochial school. Granted I hid there, for reasons explained down the post. It doesn't make 'sense' in the idea that poor teachers should have gone first or by seniority. The parents and the kids love me. In fact, once the principal went to the board with her decision, there was backlash. However, the issue here is my principal has felt 'threatened' by me for many years. So, that is what it is. Now she's telling me that it's 99% certain I'll have a position next year, but I really want something else. I've been at the poverty level too long and now have been really kicked in the teeth.

I'm hearing disabled, while I have dual hi-tech hearing aids, my hearing isn't close to normal. Needless to say, I freak in interviews, especially in high school, where there may be as many as 9 sitting around a table. I have to isolate who's talking, to understand them, IF no one speaks over them. Doesn't engender confidence.

But I'm nearly to the point to illustrate that of nearly 300 grads from my school when I've been on staff, 85% have gone on to AP courses and passed. 15 of them have cited me as 'most influential teacher' through yearbooks or newspapers. I was invited to the graduation of one of mine who received a full ride to Yale. I've had grads that have thanked me for full rides to Stanford, Northwestern, CUNY, and U of I.

While I think they were the success, they thanked me and I'm about ready to lend their testimonials to my applications.

See, it's not entitlements, for myself or the kids, but hard work and expectations. I gave many a break, I knew they could do it with encouragement, now it's my turn.

History, sociology, poli-sci??? Yep, that's what business needs. MS in Ed Admin is useful, I suppose, you could be a principal or such....if you were willing to locate anywhere in the US.

Too bad you didn't spend all those $$$'s on getting an Engineering, Nursing, Computer Programming, Actuary Science, Accounting, etc..... degree.....something you could do something with other than teach school. We are actually hiring many of those types of folks.

I finally forced my daughter to drop her music degree, realizing it would never feed her. She went on to get an accounting degree, complete with CPA and then an international finance degree. Not a single person in her old music program are employed outside of teaching grade school music. None have performing arts jobs. All but two in her accounting are employed inside a year of graduation.

This is a word to the wise that have kids thinking about college or a kid in college right now. Spend your money (or your parent's money) on something that business ACTUALLY NEEDS, not on something you think is "cool" or "easy" or "your intellectual fit". At least if you want to do something beside teach high school or work in a low-level government job.

I know I need no, English majors, Music majors, sociologists, kenesiologists, phys ed, recreation management, fine arts, etc.... stuff. I need Engineers, Scientists, programmers, physicists, and mathemeticians.....and I have to go to India to get most of them because we don't make many of those here anymore......

Because its all about the money...who gives a shit how happy one is, right?

 

[DiamondDave]

We've had a whole 4 1/2 months of "entitlement bullshit" and already it's "got to stop??" What the hell is wrong with you people. We elected a president who gives a shit about real Americans for a change. He doesn't just care about the super rich and the corporations, but the rest of us working stiffs who just want a little leveling of the playing field. OMG what a disaster. Socialism run amuck clearly.

We've suffered for at least the last 30 years with your rugged individualism, your boot straps and casting aspersions upon anyone who struggled even the slightest. THAT is what we've had enough of. MORE than enough. It's time for the adults to be in charge. People who realize that we're living in a civilization, we're not just all pioneers out on the range where our actions have no effect on anybody else.

If you are of sound mind and body and can't take care of yourself, provide for yourself, I have one solution....

Figure it out YOURSELF, or DIE. I, nor anyone else, owes you anything, even life....

Ok then. Good to know that if I get 10 guys and go and rape/kill your family, you'll be A OK with it, since you couldn't protect your family.

You want individualism? Then go out, off the grid, and fend for yourself. But don't leech off of the roads other peoples money built, the medical advances other peoples money funded, and the public utilities other people have funded if you aren't going to give jack shit back.

Hmmm... big difference between the 'general welfare' and infrastructure.. and having taxpayers pay for individual wants, needs, etc...

ANY person can use a road... laws and law enforcement are for society or the populous... all are public domain... your body and personal health is not public domain...

but nice try

 

[Nik]

If you are of sound mind and body and can't take care of yourself, provide for yourself, I have one solution....

Figure it out YOURSELF, or DIE. I, nor anyone else, owes you anything, even life....

Ok then. Good to know that if I get 10 guys and go and rape/kill your family, you'll be A OK with it, since you couldn't protect your family.

You want individualism? Then go out, off the grid, and fend for yourself. But don't leech off of the roads other peoples money built, the medical advances other peoples money funded, and the public utilities other people have funded if you aren't going to give jack shit back.

Hmmm... big difference between the 'general welfare' and infrastructure.. and having taxpayers pay for individual wants, needs, etc...

ANY person can use a road... laws and law enforcement are for society or the populous... all are public domain... your body and personal health is not public domain...

but nice try

So since your body isn't public domain its ok for me to beat you up/kill you/etc? Its necessary for someone to prosecute me for hurting you, but not necessary for there to be anything to make you better? Thats the stupidest argument ever.

 

[DiamondDave]

Ok then. Good to know that if I get 10 guys and go and rape/kill your family, you'll be A OK with it, since you couldn't protect your family.

You want individualism? Then go out, off the grid, and fend for yourself. But don't leech off of the roads other peoples money built, the medical advances other peoples money funded, and the public utilities other people have funded if you aren't going to give jack shit back.

Hmmm... big difference between the 'general welfare' and infrastructure.. and having taxpayers pay for individual wants, needs, etc...

ANY person can use a road... laws and law enforcement are for society or the populous... all are public domain... your body and personal health is not public domain...

but nice try

So since your body isn't public domain its ok for me to beat you up/kill you/etc? Its necessary for someone to prosecute me for hurting you, but not necessary for there to be anything to make you better? Thats the stupidest argument ever.

THE LAW is public domain you retard.. including laws protecting the individual rights of citizens

And last I saw.. assault and battery was against the law

Your ability to provide for yourself is not public domain... you getting yourself around is not something that is public domain for others to encroach on, or to provide for you because you want it...

You have public transit systems for the use of ALL peoples.. you getting provided a car for your individual use is not