France’s Surprising Resistance to Gay Marriage

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    France’s Surprising Resistance to Gay Marriage

    January 15, 2013
    Robert Royal

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    Relations between Church and State in France, however, have remained testy ever since, including this weekend’s confrontation over the effort of François Hollande’s French Socialists, who control all the important levers of political power at the moment, to impose so-called gay marriage on the nation—and while they’re at it, gay adoption, and government-funded artificial insemination for lesbian couples. That was too much for many.

    In classic French fashion, a huge number of people went into the streets—descendre dans la rue being almost a formal political process in France. Numbers are always contested, but about 800,000 and perhaps as many as one million people—five times Napoleon’s figure—marched three different parade routes to the Eiffel Tower Sunday.

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    800,000 homophobes, right there.

    Good thing I don't live in France.
     
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    Replace that adjective with 'Catholics' and you'd be closer to the truth. But why do homosexuals have to hijack a ceremony that belongs to the church? Why not push for the enactment of a recognised union of their own?
     
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    Civil Marriage doesn't belong to the Church. Marriage exists in two realms: Civil and Religioius. Civil Marriage is that which functions under governmental law, Religious Marriage is recognized be religious institutions.

    Or we could just have Civil Unions for everyone (same-sex and different-sex couples) which "marriage" being between the individuals and their respective religious institution.


    :SHRUG: In the end it is France's decision whether or not to extend equal treatment to same-sex couples in the area of Same-sex Civil Marriage.


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    Apologies for not being clearer, WW. I'm not opposed to civil partnerships, which is what we call them in the UK (and they're legally recognised and binding). I'm just opposed to homosexuals hijacking and established religious ceremony that's currently only reserved for hetrosexual couples.
     
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    I can't speak for the UK Swag, but here in the United States we have a Constitution which protects the rights of Churches to perform religious ceremonies based on their own teachings. No Churches are forced to perform (and never have been) a religious interracial, interfaith, divorced, or same-sex religious marriage.

    There are many Churches here though which have been performing religious marriages for same-sex couples for decades. But those Religious Marriages, in many places here, are not recognized as valid Civil Marriages under the law.


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    Allow gay marriage but deny them the right to marry in a church unless they have permission.

    Problem solved.
     
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    That's moronic...:eusa_shhh:
     
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    Waw! "Homophobes"?!

    Liberals did brainwash you big time!

    So, when HEALTHY segment of a society after years of liberal dictatorship rises up in defence of the future of the society you fall over yourselves in calling them names. Where is your sense of "democracy"? Don't PEOPLE have the right to decide what they want for themselves?!

    I am sure, French are glad that pederastophile like yourself doesn't live in France.
     
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    France already allows civil unions.
     

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