France is Fucked

[SniperFire]

Mr Sarkozy, who on Friday said: "I don't think anyone wants France to be in the situation that Spain is in today, after seven years of Socialist government."

"Look at Spain," he said. "Do you want the same situation? The issue isn't to frighten. The issue is to look across our border" where unemployment recently hit almost 24.5 per cent.'



Freeloaders are the same all over.

 

[JoeB131]

So the French have figured out "Trickle down" doesn't?

Just like Detroit, Newark, Cleveland, California, etc.

Ummm,yeah, all places that went broke after we gave huge tax breaks to billionaires... thanks for pointing that out.

 

[tinydancer]

They plan on voting in a guy who is more leftist than the OWS luntics!

His platform:
(1) Spend more, not just a little but a TON more. He is buying votes by promising to gifts to everyone.
(2) His plan to tackle 10% unemployment. Tax the rich and see them flee the country.
(3) His plan to grow the economy. Raise taxes on businesses and see them leave the country.
(4) His plans to win 10% of the immigrate population (this will sound familiar): Amnesty, protections for illegal, social services to illegal and fairer immigration policies (meaning more legal and illegal immigration)


So his plan is "fix" Frances economy is to tax the rich and business community into leaving the country (remember in Europe with the EU relocation is relatively easy), increase their deficit which is at a critical level 100 fold and head towards Greece's fate and open the boards to Muslim immigration so the leftist will have a voting bloc in the pocket regardless of the fact they despise liberal ideals, France and are overall huge burdens on the welfare state and desire Sharia law in the country.

This scumbag is leading the polls!

So the French have figured out "Trickle down" doesn't?

This ought to be a message to the GOP. If you keep working against the working class, they will turn around and bite you in the ass.

Lesson won't be learned though.

If France goes with Hollande, keep your eye on Merkel. The Euro will be over.

Instead of stopping spending, Hollande vows to tax every person over a miniscule amount of revenue 75%.

All hell is going to break loose. Merkel will not stand for the marxist Hollande, and Germany will isolate herself very quickly as to not be tied down to a sinking ship.

 

[JoeB131]

Mr Sarkozy, who on Friday said: "I don't think anyone wants France to be in the situation that Spain is in today, after seven years of Socialist government."

"Look at Spain," he said. "Do you want the same situation? The issue isn't to frighten. The issue is to look across our border" where unemployment recently hit almost 24.5 per cent.'



Freeloaders are the same all over.

Again, Spain did everything you guys said. They had little deficit spending, and they cut taxes.

And they're still screwed.

 

[JoeB131]

If France goes with Hollande, keep your eye on Merkel. The Euro will be over.

Instead of stopping spending, Hollande vows to tax every person over a miniscule amount of revenue 75%.

All hell is going to break loose. Merkel will not stand for the marxist Hollande, and Germany will isolate herself very quickly as to not be tied down to a sinking ship.

Since the Euro was a horrible idea, that would probably be a good thing.

 

[tinydancer]

So the French have figured out "Trickle down" doesn't?

Just like Detroit, Newark, Cleveland, California, etc.

Ummm,yeah, all places that went broke after we gave huge tax breaks to billionaires... thanks for pointing that out.

Detroit has been fucked up since the 60's. Want to run that theory of tax breaks to me?
Completely mother trucking corrupt for forever. And you want to see slums? YOWZAH.

Since LBJ. Stop with the tax break to billionaire shit. You embarrass yourself.

Actually, I should ask, Have you ever been to any of these places that you comment on?

 

[SniperFire]

Mr Sarkozy, who on Friday said: "I don't think anyone wants France to be in the situation that Spain is in today, after seven years of Socialist government."

"Look at Spain," he said. "Do you want the same situation? The issue isn't to frighten. The issue is to look across our border" where unemployment recently hit almost 24.5 per cent.'



Freeloaders are the same all over.

Again, Spain did everything you guys said. They had little deficit spending, and they cut taxes.

And they're still screwed.

Spain has had 7 years of Socialist government, and they are trying to blame their 24.5% unemployment on ....... their conservatives?

I am not an expert here, but if we have spooky parallels to America, did Spain have a 'Pre-Pelosia Era' equivalent of prosperity as well?


December 2007 Marks Record 52nd Consecutive Month Of Job Growth.
Publication: Business Wire
Date: Friday, January 4 2008

More Than 8.3 Million Jobs Created Since August 2003 In Longest Continuous Run Of Job Growth On Record

WASHINGTON -- Today, the Bureau of Labor Statistics released new jobs figures - 18,000 jobs created in December. Since August 2003, more than 8.3 million jobs have been created, with more than 1.3 million jobs created throughout 2007. Our economy has now added jobs for 52 straight months - the longest period of uninterrupted job growth on record. The unemployment rate remains low at 5 percent.'

http://www.allbusiness.com/economy-economic-indi cators/economic-indicators/5848024-1.html

 

[SniperFire]

Just like Detroit, Newark, Cleveland, California, etc.

Ummm,yeah, all places that went broke after we gave huge tax breaks to billionaires... thanks for pointing that out.

Detroit has been fucked up since the 60's. Want to run that theory of tax breaks to me?
Completely mother trucking corrupt for forever. And you want to see slums? YOWZAH.

Since LBJ. Stop with the tax break to billionaire shit. You embarrass yourself.

Actually, I should ask, Have you ever been to any of these places that you comment on?

Cleveland and Detroit, for example, have a small handful of 'billionaires,' none of course whom actually live in the cities in question.

 

[Douger]

Umm...Before the U.S. entered the war; the whole of Europe was occupied except Britain, who was in the process of being pounded by the Germans. doesn't really say much about the European politicians and their military does it? And we are still their? You idiots can fund your own defense.... Ungrateful bastards

Switzerland was never occupied.

Switzerland never lifted a fucking finger either. So What's your point?

That's becuase the Swiss are intelligent.

 

[Erand7899]

Sorry but no one person planned the invasion it was a joint effort.. Wikipedia?

Yes, exactly it was, and that is exactly my point.

Saying the US liberated France is inaccurate to the point of being insulting.

The UK was the largest single force, and a number of other countries also had large forces involved.

You are badly mistaken. US forces landing on Normandy on D-day numbered 73,000 men, on two beaches. The British landed 61,715. Canadians landed on the British beaches numbered 22,400.

 

[Sallow]

They plan on voting in a guy who is more leftist than the OWS luntics!

His platform:
(1) Spend more, not just a little but a TON more. He is buying votes by promising to gifts to everyone.
(2) His plan to tackle 10% unemployment. Tax the rich and see them flee the country.
(3) His plan to grow the economy. Raise taxes on businesses and see them leave the country.
(4) His plans to win 10% of the immigrate population (this will sound familiar): Amnesty, protections for illegal, social services to illegal and fairer immigration policies (meaning more legal and illegal immigration)


So his plan is "fix" Frances economy is to tax the rich and business community into leaving the country (remember in Europe with the EU relocation is relatively easy), increase their deficit which is at a critical level 100 fold and head towards Greece's fate and open the boards to Muslim immigration so the leftist will have a voting bloc in the pocket regardless of the fact they despise liberal ideals, France and are overall huge burdens on the welfare state and desire Sharia law in the country.

This scumbag is leading the polls!

Scumbag?

That's good political discourse?

And cool..let the rich "flee". I'd love them to flee this country. They are wealth extractors sucking America dry.

 

[SniperFire]

They plan on voting in a guy who is more leftist than the OWS luntics!

His platform:
(1) Spend more, not just a little but a TON more. He is buying votes by promising to gifts to everyone.
(2) His plan to tackle 10% unemployment. Tax the rich and see them flee the country.
(3) His plan to grow the economy. Raise taxes on businesses and see them leave the country.
(4) His plans to win 10% of the immigrate population (this will sound familiar): Amnesty, protections for illegal, social services to illegal and fairer immigration policies (meaning more legal and illegal immigration)


So his plan is "fix" Frances economy is to tax the rich and business community into leaving the country (remember in Europe with the EU relocation is relatively easy), increase their deficit which is at a critical level 100 fold and head towards Greece's fate and open the boards to Muslim immigration so the leftist will have a voting bloc in the pocket regardless of the fact they despise liberal ideals, France and are overall huge burdens on the welfare state and desire Sharia law in the country.

This scumbag is leading the polls!

Scumbag?

That's good political discourse?

And cool..let the rich "flee". I'd love them to flee this country. They are wealth extractors sucking America dry.

Bring about conditions where investment capital vanishes and completely collapses the economy,then?

Obama could use you on his economic team.

LOL

 

[JoeB131]

Just like Detroit, Newark, Cleveland, California, etc.

Ummm,yeah, all places that went broke after we gave huge tax breaks to billionaires... thanks for pointing that out.

Detroit has been fucked up since the 60's. Want to run that theory of tax breaks to me?
Completely mother trucking corrupt for forever. And you want to see slums? YOWZAH.

Since LBJ. Stop with the tax break to billionaire shit. You embarrass yourself.

Actually, I should ask, Have you ever been to any of these places that you comment on?

Since the 1960's? YOu mean when Romney's Father was governor?

here's the gag. When you cut taxes without cutting government spending, which is exactly what we've been doing since 1980, you make government spending MORE popular, not less.

Because you get all these benefits and you don't have to pay for them.

It's like giving someone an unlimited credit card, really. That they never have to make payments on.

This is why Government has grown since the Reagan tax cuts, not shrunk.

 

[Sallow]

They plan on voting in a guy who is more leftist than the OWS luntics!

His platform:
(1) Spend more, not just a little but a TON more. He is buying votes by promising to gifts to everyone.
(2) His plan to tackle 10% unemployment. Tax the rich and see them flee the country.
(3) His plan to grow the economy. Raise taxes on businesses and see them leave the country.
(4) His plans to win 10% of the immigrate population (this will sound familiar): Amnesty, protections for illegal, social services to illegal and fairer immigration policies (meaning more legal and illegal immigration)


So his plan is "fix" Frances economy is to tax the rich and business community into leaving the country (remember in Europe with the EU relocation is relatively easy), increase their deficit which is at a critical level 100 fold and head towards Greece's fate and open the boards to Muslim immigration so the leftist will have a voting bloc in the pocket regardless of the fact they despise liberal ideals, France and are overall huge burdens on the welfare state and desire Sharia law in the country.

This scumbag is leading the polls!

Scumbag?

That's good political discourse?

And cool..let the rich "flee". I'd love them to flee this country. They are wealth extractors sucking America dry.

Bring about conditions where investment capital vanishes and completely collapses the economy,then?

Obama could use you on his economic team.

LOL

They didn't flee the country when top rates were over 90%. In any case..where are they going to go?

 

[tinydancer]

Mr Sarkozy, who on Friday said: "I don't think anyone wants France to be in the situation that Spain is in today, after seven years of Socialist government."

"Look at Spain," he said. "Do you want the same situation? The issue isn't to frighten. The issue is to look across our border" where unemployment recently hit almost 24.5 per cent.'



Freeloaders are the same all over.

Again, Spain did everything you guys said. They had little deficit spending, and they cut taxes.

And they're still screwed.

Spain has had 7 years of Socialist government, and they are trying to blame their 24.5% unemployment on ....... their conservatives?

I am not an expert here, but if we have spooky parallels to America, did Spain have a 'Pre-Pelosia Era' equivalent of prosperity as well?


December 2007 Marks Record 52nd Consecutive Month Of Job Growth.
Publication: Business Wire
Date: Friday, January 4 2008

More Than 8.3 Million Jobs Created Since August 2003 In Longest Continuous Run Of Job Growth On Record

WASHINGTON -- Today, the Bureau of Labor Statistics released new jobs figures - 18,000 jobs created in December. Since August 2003, more than 8.3 million jobs have been created, with more than 1.3 million jobs created throughout 2007. Our economy has now added jobs for 52 straight months - the longest period of uninterrupted job growth on record. The unemployment rate remains low at 5 percent.'

http://www.allbusiness.com/economy-economic-indi cators/economic-indicators/5848024-1.html

They freaking knee jerked over the train terrorist attack and passed the keys to the house to the socialist losers. They had a blast nuking the country.

Now the conservative *by their standard: have to clean up this horrid economic tsunami that the liberals brought on the country."

Please note though, part of what Sarkozy and Cameron are facing are their "party down"
Cameron is really facing a wall of " you did what" ?

Cameron got to ride on Airforce I. What a douche. He got his rocks off on it. He looks like the complete asshole he is. AND he lied to appear centrist. Cameron is no conservative.

 

[SniperFire]

Ummm,yeah, all places that went broke after we gave huge tax breaks to billionaires... thanks for pointing that out.

Detroit has been fucked up since the 60's. Want to run that theory of tax breaks to me?
Completely mother trucking corrupt for forever. And you want to see slums? YOWZAH.

Since LBJ. Stop with the tax break to billionaire shit. You embarrass yourself.

Actually, I should ask, Have you ever been to any of these places that you comment on?

Since the 1960's? YOu mean when Romney's Father was governor?

here's the gag. When you cut taxes without cutting government spending, which is exactly what we've been doing since 1980, you make government spending MORE popular, not less.

Because you get all these benefits and you don't have to pay for them.

It's like giving someone an unlimited credit card, really. That they never have to make payments on.

This is why Government has grown since the Reagan tax cuts, not shrunk.

You are one nonsensical Lefty diatribe after another.

Each and every time taxes have been cut on the wealthy whom you envy and hate, tax revenues to the Federal Treasury INCREASED.

It happened when Coolidge did it. It happened when JFK did it. It happened when Reagan did it. It happened when Bush did it.

That politicians decided to OVERSPEND beyond the increased revenues generated by said tax cuts is another issue - one you have attempted to obfuscate and yet have miserable failed.

 

[Saigon]

Sorry but no one person planned the invasion it was a joint effort.. Wikipedia?

Yes, exactly it was, and that is exactly my point.

Saying the US liberated France is inaccurate to the point of being insulting.

The UK was the largest single force, and a number of other countries also had large forces involved.

You are badly mistaken. US forces landing on Normandy on D-day numbered 73,000 men, on two beaches. The British landed 61,715. Canadians landed on the British beaches numbered 22,400.

Landings were not the only aspect of D-Day. If you factor in the British troops also involved in the air and sea assaults, the British were the largest single force. Operation Neptune involved huge naval forces, including 6939 vessels: 1213 naval combat ships, 4126 landing ships and landing craft, 736 ancillary craft and 864 merchant vessels. Some 195,700 personnel were assigned to Operation Neptune: 52,889 US, 112,824 British, and 4988 from other Allied countries.

So no, I am not badly mistaken.

 

[SniperFire]

Now watch some asshole come along and claim that somebody actually once paid 90% in Federal income taxes in America.


You just watch!

LOL

 

[Sallow]

Detroit has been fucked up since the 60's. Want to run that theory of tax breaks to me?
Completely mother trucking corrupt for forever. And you want to see slums? YOWZAH.

Since LBJ. Stop with the tax break to billionaire shit. You embarrass yourself.

Actually, I should ask, Have you ever been to any of these places that you comment on?

Since the 1960's? YOu mean when Romney's Father was governor?

here's the gag. When you cut taxes without cutting government spending, which is exactly what we've been doing since 1980, you make government spending MORE popular, not less.

Because you get all these benefits and you don't have to pay for them.

It's like giving someone an unlimited credit card, really. That they never have to make payments on.

This is why Government has grown since the Reagan tax cuts, not shrunk.

You are one nonsensical Lefty diatribe after another.

Each and every time taxes have been cut on the wealthy whom you envy and hate, tax revenues to the Federal Treasury INCREASED.

It happened when Coolidge did it. It happened when JFK did it. It happened when Reagan did it. It happened when Bush did it.

That politicians decided to OVERSPEND beyond the increased revenues generated by said tax cuts is another issue - one you have attempted to obfuscate and yet have miserable failed.

Which is wrong.

Tax revenues to the federal treasury increase almost every year regardless of tax cuts or increases.

 

[SniperFire]

By Michael D. LaFaive, published on Nov. 1, 1997

Why does debate over the effects of income tax cuts on revenues and the budget deficit never end? Do we not have ample empirical data that demonstrates that lowered taxes produce "more" revenue, not less, by stimulating economic activity?

The answer to these questions first requires a little background information.

In each of the last three cuts in marginal tax rates, revenues received by the U.S. Treasury have increased. Coolidge cut tax rates in the 1920s, Kennedy cut marginal tax rates in the 1960s, and Reagan cut them in the 1980s.

Under Coolidge, marginal tax rates were cut from the top rate of 73% to 24%. The economy rewarded this policy by expanding 59% from 1921 to 1929. Revenues received by the federal treasury increased from $719 million in 1921 to more than $1.1 billion 1929. That's a 61% increase (there was zero inflation in this period). Growth averaged more than six percent annually. We are currently growing at 2.5%.

Under Kennedy, marginal tax rates were cut from a top rate of 91% to 70%. In real dollar terms, the economy grew by 42%, an average of 5 percent a year from 1961 to 1965. Tax revenue to the U.S. Treasury increased by 62%. Adjusted for inflation, they rose by one-third.

Under Reagan, marginal tax rates were cut from a top of 70% to 28%. Revenues (from all taxes) to the U.S. Treasury nearly doubled. According to the Budget of the U.S. Government, FY 1997, Office of Management and Budget. Revenues increased from roughly $500 billion in 1980 to $1.1 trillion in 1990.'