Fox News Reports on Collapse of Building 7 Before It Happens

I think that there ARE a whole lot of questions that need to be answered about 9/11 but focusing on shit like building 7 only serves to drive you further into the lunatic category where you are easy to dismiss.


ya dismiss this motherfucker







Dwain Deets, MS Physics, MS Eng – Former Director, Aerospace Projects, NASA Dryden Flight Research Center. Before this appointment, he served as Director, Research Engineering Division at Dryden. Recipient of the NASA Exceptional Service Award and the Presidential Meritorious Rank Award in the Senior Executive Service (1988). Selected presenter of the Wright Brothers Lectureship in Aeronautics, a distinguished speaking engagement sponsored by the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics (AIAA) (1986). Included in "Who's Who in Science and Engineering" 1993 - 2000. Former Chairman of the Aerospace Control and Guidance Systems Committee of the Society of Automotive Engineers. Former Member, AIAA Committee on Society and Aerospace Technology. 37 year NASA career.
Statement in support of Architects and Engineers petition:


"The many visual images (massive structural members being hurled horizontally, huge pyroclastic clouds, etc.) leave no doubt in my mind explosives were involved [in the destruction of the World Trade Center]." AE911Truth


Signatory: Petition requesting a reinvestigation of 9/11, signed by more than 500 Architects and Engineers:

"On Behalf of the People of the United States of America, the undersigned Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth and affiliates hereby petition for, and demand, a truly independent investigation with subpoena power in order to uncover the full truth surrounding the events of 9/11/01 - specifically the collapse of the World Trade Center Towers and Building 7. We believe that there is sufficient doubt about the official story and therefore that the 9/11 investigation must be re-opened and must include a full inquiry into the possible use of explosives that may have been the actual cause behind the destruction of the World Trade Center Towers and WTC Building 7." Sign the Petition


Editor's note: WTC Building 7 was 610 feet tall, 47 stories. It would have been the tallest building in 33 states. Although it was not hit by an airplane, it completely collapsed into a pile of rubble in less than 7 seconds at 5:20 p.m. on 9/11, seven hours after the collapses of the Twin Towers. However, no mention of its collapse appears in the 9/11 Commission's "full and complete account of the circumstances surrounding the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks." Watch the collapse video here. And six years after 9/11, the Federal government has yet to publish its promised final report that explains the cause of its collapse.


Bio: NASA - Dryden Flight Research Center




Capt. Edgar Mitchell, U.S. Navy (ret), BS Industrial Management, BS Aeronautical Engineering, Doctor of Science, Aeronautics and Astronautics from MIT – Pilot and Astronaut. Sixth man to walk on the moon (Apollo 14 mission). Patrol bomber and attack plane pilot, U.S. Navy. Test Pilot, Air Test and Evaluation Squadron 5 (VX-5). Chief of Project Management Division, Navy Field Office for the Manned Orbiting Laboratory Project. Graduated first in his class from the Aerospace Research Pilot School, and served as an instructor there. Recipient of many awards and honors including the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the USN Distinguished Medal and three NASA Group Achievement Awards. Inducted to the Space Hall of Fame in 1979 and the Astronaut Hall of Fame in 1998. Recipient of honorary doctorates in engineering from New Mexico State University, the University of Akron, Carnegie Mellon University, and a ScD from Embry-Riddle University. Founder of the Institute of Noetic Sciences.
Endorser of and proposed Commissioner of a New Investigation into 9/11 as described in the New York City Ballot Initiative 11/08: "Petition to Create a NYC Independent Commission with Subpoena Power to Conduct a Comprehensive and Fact-Driven Investigation of All Relevant Aspects of the Tragic Events of September 11, 2001 and Issue a Report.

WHEREAS, many New York City voters believe that there remain many unanswered questions critical to establishing the truth about all relevant events leading up to, during and subsequent to the tragic attacks occurring on September 11, 2001 (“9/11”), and

WHEREAS, no prior investigation by any New York City agency or any other governmental entity has resulted in the citizens being provided with those critical answers or information necessary to establish the truth about those tragic events, ...

An independent, temporary New York City commission (the “Commission”) is hereby created to conduct a comprehensive, factdriven investigation into the events that took place on 9/11, as well as to thoroughly examine related events before and after the attacks, including any activities attempting to hide, cover up, impede or obstruct any investigation into these 9/11 events, following wherever the facts may lead. The Commission shall publish one or more reports of their findings."


Website: Ed Mitchell




Capt. Daniel Davis, U.S. Army – Former U.S. Army Air Defense Officer and NORAD Tac Director. Decorated with the Bronze Star and the Soldiers Medal for bravery under fire and the Purple Heart for injuries sustained in Viet Nam. Also served in the Army Air Defense Command as Nike Missile Battery Control Officer for the Chicago-Milwaukee Defense Area. Founder and former CEO of Turbine Technology Services Corp., a turbine (jet engine) services and maintenance company (15 years). Former Senior Manager at General Electric Turbine (jet) Engine Division (15 years). Private pilot.

Statement to this website 3/23/07: "As a former General Electric Turbine engineering specialist and manager and then CEO of a turbine engineering company, I can guarantee that none of the high tech, high temperature alloy engines on any of the four planes that crashed on 9/11 would be completely destroyed, burned, shattered or melted in any crash or fire. Wrecked, yes, but not destroyed. Where are all of those engines, particularly at the Pentagon? If jet powered aircraft crashed on 9/11, those engines, plus wings and tail assembly, would be there.

Additionally, in my experience as an officer in NORAD as a Tactical Director for the Chicago-Milwaukee Air Defense and as a current private pilot, there is no way that an aircraft on instrument flight plans (all commercial flights are IFR) would not be intercepted when they deviate from their flight plan, turn off their transponders, or stop communication with Air Traffic Control. No way! With very bad luck, perhaps one could slip by, but no there's no way all four of them could!

Finally, going over the hill and highway and crashing into the Pentagon right at the wall/ground interface is nearly impossible for even a small slow single engine airplane and no way for a 757. Maybe the best pilot in the world could accomplish that but not these unskilled "terrorists".

Attempts to obscure facts by calling them a "Conspiracy Theory" does not change the truth. It seems, "Something is rotten in the State."



Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report
 
Coming Soon: New Fake Bin Laden Video--Just In Time For 9/11


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911 - Bin Laden Confession Video - Fake???

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Bin Laden's son says videos are faked

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DICK CHENEY: BIN LADEN, NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR 9/11

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Dick Cheney admits Bin Laden is innocent of 9/11!

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Eots here are some credible people who think that the attacks were as the news agencies report:
Here is the link for the Popular mechanics 9/11 article which had numerous scientists, engineers, professors, people with very high degrees and it isn't the only one out there! This is just ONE of the sources I showed you and it consisted of 70+ individuals.
Debunking the 9/11 Myths: Special Report - Popular Mechanics

Here is are some links which shows numerous professors collaborated on papers that shows the fall of the twin towers:
http://www-math.mit.edu/~bazant/WTC/WTC-asce.pdf
http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/JOM...agar-0112.html
World Trade Center - Some Engineering Aspects - Civil Engineering - The University of Sydney
BBC News | AMERICAS | How the World Trade Center fell
mceer.buffalo.edu/meetings/AEI/presentations/06Mlakar-paper.pdf
http://news.uns.purdue.edu/x/2007a/0...ffmannWTC.html

They each have a great number of people who agree it was done by terrorists.

Here are two links that show COUNTLESS professors that agree with the TRUE story of 9/11
Debunking 9/11 Conspiracy Theories and Controlled Demolition - The Paper
Debunking 911 Conspiracy Theories and controlled demolition - Structural and Civil Engineers against Controlled Demolition
 
NOWHERE in those links did you prove that ANY of my videos are fakes. I gave you three different accounts when Bin Laden has confessed and you were unable to discredit any of them.

Coming Soon: New Fake Bin Laden Video--Just In Time For 9/11
YouTube - Coming Soon: New Fake Bin Laden Video--Just In Time For 9/11
Nowhere in this video did they say the video was a fake. In fact, the bin laden video didn't even come out at the time this news report went out. Therefore, nobody can call it a fake as at the time nobody had seen it! My question to you: Why did you post this video? I believe you did it just to add to the amount of videos you posted to try to gain more credibility.



Are you serious with this one? They are disputing only ONE video in this clip. Next, the only evidence they give is that bin laden is supposedly writing a note with his right had while they say he is left handed. However, his are is clearly out of the shot. We do not know what he is doing.


Nowhere in that clip does his son say that the videos were a fake. The issues of the videos never came up. In fact, when the report asks if him if he thought his father was responsible when he first saw the attacks, he
responds saying, "yeah, maybe."

DICK CHENEY: BIN LADEN, NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR 9/11
YouTube - DICK CHENEY: BIN LADEN, NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR 9/11
Dick Cheney admits Bin Laden is innocent of 9/11!
YouTube - Dick Cheney admits Bin Laden is innocent of 9/11!

These last two videos are both the same. He is saying that there is no conclusive evidence linking 9/11 to Bin Laden. He is not saying that terrorist are innocent. Cheney also never said that any of these videos are fakes.
 
well good ..we got that far any way no conclusive evidence...good...thank you
true.. he did not reference the videos..we also agree on that.. however if there is no conclusive evidence it would follow that the videos are at least not considered as conclusive
 
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Conspiacy or not, the fact remains that the BBC reported the collapse of building 7 before it happened and with live pictures of the scene behind the newsreader clearly showing Building 7 standing.
Some say it was an insurance job on building 7 which took advantage of the situation.I dunno?

And what about the theory that it was a missile rather than a passenger plane that hit the Pentagon?And what about the wreckage site of flight 73 which supports the idea that the plane exploded in flight?
There are lots of questions that need to be addressed.
 
Conspiacy or not, the fact remains that the BBC reported the collapse of building 7 before it happened and with live pictures of the scene behind the newsreader clearly showing Building 7 standing.
Some say it was an insurance job on building 7 which took advantage of the situation.I dunno?

And what about the theory that it was a missile rather than a passenger plane that hit the Pentagon?And what about the wreckage site of flight 73 which supports the idea that the plane exploded in flight?
There are lots of questions that need to be addressed.
they knew WTC7 was going to collapse by noon time on 9/11, http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=58582387431741404&q=wtc7&hl=en (listen about 15 seconds into this vide) so its possible somewhere in the confusion of that day that someone translated the reports of the impending collapse into it had already collapsed before it had, or that it had in fact already collapsed and they were still running file footage behind them
there are likely hundreds of logical explanations for the BBC getting something wrong that day, there were MANY erroneous reports on 9/11 including that one plane had flown into the mall of America in MN

in order for WTC7 to have been a controlled demolition, they would have had to have pre-wired it, a job that would have taken a lot of people to do, and it would have been very suspicious considering the number of people that worked there


as to the pentagon, Aerospaceweb.org | Ask Us - Pentagon & Boeing 757 Engine Investigation

as to flight 93, there were eye witnesses that saw it nose dive into the ground
 
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they knew WTC7 was going to collapse by noon time on 9/11, WTC 7 (listen about 15 seconds into this vide) so its possible somewhere in the confusion of that day that someone translated the reports of the impending collapse into it had already collapsed before it had, or that it had in fact already collapsed and they were still running file footage behind them
there are likely hundreds of logical explanations for the BBC getting something wrong that day, there were MANY erroneous reports on 9/11 including that one plane had flown into the mall of America in MN

in order for WTC7 to have been a controlled demolition, they would have had to have pre-wired it, a job that would have taken a lot of people to do, and it would have been very suspicious considering the number of people that worked there

can your mind no comprehend that for the tower to fall in a controlled manner at free fall evenly that would require ever joint on ever floor to give way a the same instance or it would fall over or only collapse on one side

WTC7 - This is an Orange

wtc7 controlled demolition - Google Video
 
Conspiacy or not, the fact remains that the BBC reported the collapse of building 7 before it happened and with live pictures of the scene behind the newsreader clearly showing Building 7 standing.
Some say it was an insurance job on building 7 which took advantage of the situation.I dunno?
And what about the theory that it was a missile rather than a passenger plane that hit the Pentagon?And what about the wreckage site of flight 73 which supports the idea that the plane exploded in flight?
There are lots of questions that need to be addressed.

So because the bbc reported the collapse of the building before it happened means it was a conspiracy? Like Bern80 said, you're jumping from point A to point Z without going through every point in between. If the American government did attack itself on 9/11 then why would they inform a separate news organization? I never heard of a time in history when someone would inform the enemy that they are going to attack.

And what about the theory that it was a missile rather than a passenger plane that hit the Pentagon?And what about the wreckage site of flight 73 which supports the idea that the plane exploded in flight?
There are lots of questions that need to be addressed.

I never heard this theory before. However, according to Dr. Paul Mlakar he has no problem with this according to the following paper: http://mceer.buffalo.edu/meetings/AEI/presentations/06Mlakar-paper.pdf
To anyone who thinks this guy might not know what he is talking about, Mlakar has a P.h.D., P.E., and according to the following link the winner of the 2003 Forensic Engineer of the Year:www.ascetcfe.org/files/pdf/PaulMlakar_bio.doc
This man knows what he is talking about.
 
can your mind no comprehend that for the tower to fall in a controlled manner at free fall evenly that would require ever joint on ever floor to give way a the same instance or it would fall over or only collapse on one side
WTC7 - This is an Orange
wtc7 controlled demolition - Google Video

So the people just didn't notice the explosives being planted there? The link that divecon supplied is much more respectable than yours. This video only showed your point that the building fell after it was reported and we have been through this a number of times now. I have made numerous points that went without a response. Why did our government inform a news agency that they were attacking itself? Wouldn't you just think that the video was out of sync with the reporter? Couldn't the report have been given the wrong info or misunderstood what happened? By saying that the reason why a report stated this prematurely because the government informed her is making a jump that evil knievel couldn't make.
 
So the people just didn't notice the explosives being planted there? The link that divecon supplied is much more respectable than yours. This video only showed your point that the building fell after it was reported and we have been through this a number of times now. I have made numerous points that went without a response. Why did our government inform a news agency that they were attacking itself?

I havre answered this questions ..as it went out on Reuters 22 mins before it collapsed.. that it had collapsed by whom specifically has not been said this fact was completely denied and called urban legend until private individuals eventually found video tape of the original broadcasting..then it was admitted but the only explanation given was..the confusion of that day

Wouldn't you just think that the video was out of sync with the reporter? Couldn't the report have been given the wrong info or misunderstood what happened?
By saying that the reason why a report stated this prematurely because the government informed her is making a jump that evil knievel couldn't make.

not given the 911 evidence on a whole and the nature of the collapse..this is a orange
 
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I havre answered this questions ..as it went out on Reuters 22 mins before it collapsed.. that it had collapsed by whom specifically has not been said this fact was completely denied and called urban legend until private individuals eventually found video tape of the original broadcasting..then it was admitted but the only explanation given was..the confusion of that day

How do you know it wasn't posted prematurely because of the confusion? You are making the jump from point to the next without giving adequate evidence proving this. If the govt did inform the media that they were going to take down building 7 then why did they gave us this info before it happened?

not given the 911 evidence on a whole and the nature of the collapse..this is a orange

Again, you have supplied no evidence that our govt informed the media of the attack. You are jumping awfully far to conclusions.
 
How do you know it wasn't posted prematurely because of the confusion? You are making the jump from point to the next without giving adequate evidence proving this. If the govt did inform the media that they were going to take down building 7 then why did they gave us this info before it happened?



Again, you have supplied no evidence that our govt informed the media of the attack. You are jumping awfully far to conclusions.

fact....it went out on the wire 22mins before it it occurred this was denied by the media until it could no longer be...and like everything connected with 911 information is not forth coming no one said who specifically put it on the wire service or why..and I am sure never will without being court ordered to do so do so...
 
fact....it went out on the wire 22mins before it it occurred this was denied by the media until it could no longer be...and like everything connected with 911 information is not forth coming no one said who specifically put it on the wire service or why..and I am sure never will without being court ordered to do so do so...

I never heard of anyone denying this, but even if they did you are still jumping to conclusions. You are making this claim but not backing it up. This isn't the first time in history, something has been reported before it happened. Joe DiMaggio was reported dead prematurely (as well as countless other people) but it doesn't mean there is a conspiracy about their deaths.
 
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I never heard of anyone denying this, but even if they did you are still jumping to conclusions. You are making this claim but not backing it up. This isn't the first time in history, something has been reported before it happened. Joe DiMaggio was reported dead prematurely (as well as countless other people) but it doesn't mean there is a conspiracy about their deaths.

I think the point is it would be kind of hard not to notice that a 47 story building is in fact still standing. A person doesn't really compare.
 
I think the point is it would be kind of hard not to notice that a 47 story building is in fact still standing. A person doesn't really compare.

But the reporters are not actually at the building itself. They are relaying the message from what other people have informed them and something could easily get lost from one individual to the next. This would especially be true if you take in account that this was the biggest newsday of the past few decades adn therefore the most hectic. If the reporters are actually aware that the building is still standing then why would say it fell?

If you also recall the Chicago Tribune said that Dewey Defeated Truman when in fact he had lost. Was there a conspiracy here?
 
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nobody..was aware of building 7 before 911..many where not even aware of it much later..the reporters were reading off the wire service..but my questions are this... why was it denied for all these years ?..who's decision was that and.why.?..who exactly put it on the wire services?..where did he get this information.?.like any good investigator would
 
nobody..was aware of building 7 before 911..many where not even aware of it much later..the reporters were reading off the wire service..but my questions are this... why was it denied for all these years ?..who's decision was that and.why.?..who exactly put it on the wire services?..where did he get this information.?.like any good investigator would

Unlike a good investigator you are jumping to conclusions. You have not supplied any information for your theory and therefore should be more open minded about what happened. As I have said, there have been other news stories that went out before it happened. It doesnt mean there is a conspiracy with every one of them.
 

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