Four Democrats advocate gun control legislation following Colorado shooting

Whew...good thing we aren't Communists then. I love my guns...of course, I don't have military style weapons whose only purpose is to kill as many people as possible in the least amount of time.

All of our fundamental rights have "riders" on them. Why is this right so "untouchable" and can't have any restrictions on it?

The problem is some politicians think gun ownership of any kind is a threat.

They won't stop at assault weapons.

I personally don't see the need for owning an assault rifle other than just to collect it.

I have heard that Obama is waiting till after the election to use regulations ands executive-orders to essentially outlaw private gun ownership.

I take it you would never in a million years vote for a gun hating communist like Willard, correct?

That's liberal state Massachusetts Romney speaking pal!
He knows it doesn't work that way any longer now that he's nationwide.
He's had to change his position on other issues as well.
Once Second Ammendment issues go nationwide, it's just the Dems who are the gun haters.
 
Anyime there's any attempt to restrict gun rights, it's always coming from the Democrat Party.

Keep talking Dems ! :clap2:

Communists hate private gun ownership.

"Governor Mitt Romney has signed into law a permanent assault weapons ban"

Romney signs off on permanent assault weapons ban / iBerkshires.com - The Berkshires online guide to events, news and Berkshire County community information.

"While Governor of Massachusetts, Romney also dramatically inflated the fees associated with owning a gun by 400%. “We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts; I support them,”

Mitt Romney on gun rights - West Palm Beach Libertarian | Examiner.com

It looks like that makes Willard a radical left wing, gun hating, marxist/communist/socialist,..
Goes to show that it isn't only the "left" that is advocating gun control. Fascist's pretending to be "conservative rebublicans" would like a disarmed public, to avoid killing you when the SHTF in earnest, and there are mass protests and revolt against the egregious policies that both the left and the right will further impose on us.

When it comes to dictatorial power, there is no difference between either "party".
There are extremest factions within both who strive for the same things. We need more middle ground without obliterating the Bill of Rights or the Constitution.
 
The assault weapon didn't kill the majority of people in the Colorado shooting, try the shotgun and handgun......
 
"Governor Mitt Romney has signed into law a permanent assault weapons ban"

Romney signs off on permanent assault weapons ban / iBerkshires.com - The Berkshires online guide to events, news and Berkshire County community information.

"While Governor of Massachusetts, Romney also dramatically inflated the fees associated with owning a gun by 400%. “We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts; I support them,”

Mitt Romney on gun rights - West Palm Beach Libertarian | Examiner.com

It looks like that makes Willard a radical left wing, gun hating, marxist/communist/socialist,..

Holy Crap!!! Mitt is literally on both sides of everything

Willard hates guns with a passion, and the right wing trolls say only a communist hates guns.

I've asked them that they would never in a million years vote for a gun hating communist like Willard, right? And they haven't answered,...:dunno:

I wouldnt hold my breath, they argue themselves into a corner with all the gun hating jazz...then cant get out when facts are presented. Looks like they are for the gun hater as long as the gun hater is a Republican
 
Keep talking Dems ! :clap2:

Four Democrats advocate gun control legislation following Colorado shooting


Four Democrats have come forward in the wake of the mass shooting in Aurora, Colo. to voice support for new legislation aimed to combat gun violence.

Colorado Rep. Diana DeGette, New York Rep. Carolyn McCarthy and New Jersey Sen. Bob Menendez joined Sen. Frank Lautenberg of New Jersey Tuesday to voice support for Lautenberg's bill outlawing the sale of high-capacity gun magazines.

"I hope that this does spark a national conversation about where we go in terms of reasonable gun control measures," Menendez told reporters gathered for a press conference on the issue. "So that no one like Alex Teves, who grew up in New Jersey and found himself in Colorado, will ever again be gunned down by a man who could build an arsenal with a click of a mouse and have it delivered to his door by the cart load--ammunition, high capacity clips, explosives, bomb-making materials--all within the law."

Four Democrats advocate gun control legislation following Colorado shooting | The Ticket - Yahoo! News

Well it seems that GOP efforts to turn the US into a Macro version of the Wild West seems to be succeeding.

I'm glad some Democrats are developing enough of a spine to try and abate the blood bath.

Two things will happen
If democrats try this they will lose elections for years.
If the democrats get their way there will be a lot of dead cops and start of a civil war.

I choose the first op but if push comes to shove I want back down on the second op.
 
I "hear" a lot of things, but nothing I've ever heard has led me to believe that ANY elected official wants to outlaw private gun ownership

Then you haven't been paying attention.

I've heard plenty that want to put restrictions on ownership, but not to outlaw ownership outright. That's ludicrous.

Then you'll agree that Senator Feinstein, who I bet you have voted for, is incredibly ludicrous.

All told, HR2038 is a giant step closer to the goal stated by the assault-weapons ban sponsor, Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., on CBS "60 Minutes": "If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them -- Mr. and Mrs. America, turn them all in -- I would have done it."

2nd Amendment / Mr. and Mrs. America, turn them all in - SFGate
 
This is about a surprising as hi-fives in the Dawg Pound after thet Browns score a touchdown.

Certain people go to bet at night and pray the the next day there will be a tragedy like this so they can push their anti-gun agenda.
Certain other people see no problem with that.
 
I "hear" a lot of things, but nothing I've ever heard has led me to believe that ANY elected official wants to outlaw private gun ownership

Then you haven't been paying attention.

I've heard plenty that want to put restrictions on ownership, but not to outlaw ownership outright. That's ludicrous.

Then you'll agree that Senator Feinstein, who I bet you have voted for, is incredibly ludicrous.

All told, HR2038 is a giant step closer to the goal stated by the assault-weapons ban sponsor, Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., on CBS "60 Minutes": "If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them -- Mr. and Mrs. America, turn them all in -- I would have done it."

2nd Amendment / Mr. and Mrs. America, turn them all in - SFGate

Feinstein thinks only certain people should have a firearm, she just happens to be one of those who should have one in her opinion.
 
Anyime there's any attempt to restrict gun rights, it's always coming from the Democrat Party.

Keep talking Dems ! :clap2:

Communists hate private gun ownership.

Whew...good thing we aren't Communists then. I love my guns...of course, I don't have military style weapons whose only purpose is to kill as many people as possible in the least amount of time.
That's too bad - because these are exactly the kinds of weapon the 2nd was intended to protect.
 
The day after 12 people were killed in the movie theater in Colorado, 12 people were killed in Texas, when a pickup truck veered off the road.

No one, to my knowledge, has called for a ban on pickup trucks.
 
The problem is some politicians think gun ownership of any kind is a threat.

They won't stop at assault weapons.

I personally don't see the need for owning an assault rifle other than just to collect it.

I have heard that Obama is waiting till after the election to use regulations ands executive-orders to essentially outlaw private gun ownership.

I take it you would never in a million years vote for a gun hating communist like Willard, correct?

That's liberal state Massachusetts Romney speaking pal!
He knows it doesn't work that way any longer now that he's nationwide.
He's had to change his position on other issues as well.
Once Second Ammendment issues go nationwide, it's just the Dems who are the gun haters.

So Willard has a history of hating guns and says he supports strong anti-gun legislation, but has flip flopped into liking them because you want him to? Sounds plausible. :cuckoo:
 
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The day after 12 people were killed in the movie theater in Colorado, 12 people were killed in Texas, when a pickup truck veered off the road.

No one, to my knowledge, has called for a ban on pickup trucks.

Thats because...aw fuck it...Guns are just like Pick-up trucks both are meant to kill things.

*pats Erand on the head* Now go play.
 
I "hear" a lot of things, but nothing I've ever heard has led me to believe that ANY elected official wants to outlaw private gun ownership

Then you haven't been paying attention.

I've heard plenty that want to put restrictions on ownership, but not to outlaw ownership outright. That's ludicrous.

Then you'll agree that Senator Feinstein, who I bet you have voted for, is incredibly ludicrous.

All told, HR2038 is a giant step closer to the goal stated by the assault-weapons ban sponsor, Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., on CBS "60 Minutes": "If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them -- Mr. and Mrs. America, turn them all in -- I would have done it."

2nd Amendment / Mr. and Mrs. America, turn them all in - SFGate

Yes it is ludicrous but that is why you keep posting the idea of ONE Dem. Because it cannot and will not ever happen no matter how much she wishes for it. In order for the "Dems want to ban weapons" meme to be true you have to find more than one voice....hence the use of the letter "s"
 
I take it you would never in a million years vote for a gun hating communist like Willard, correct?

That's liberal state Massachusetts Romney speaking pal!
He knows it doesn't work that way any longer now that he's nationwide.
He's had to change his position on other issues as well.
Once Second Ammendment issues go nationwide, it's just the Dems who are the gun haters.

So Willard has a history of hating guns and says he supports strong anti-gun legislation, but has flip flopped into liking them because you want him to? Sounds plausible. :cuckoo:

He retroactively likes guns
 
I "hear" a lot of things, but nothing I've ever heard has led me to believe that ANY elected official wants to outlaw private gun ownership

Then you haven't been paying attention.



Then you'll agree that Senator Feinstein, who I bet you have voted for, is incredibly ludicrous.

All told, HR2038 is a giant step closer to the goal stated by the assault-weapons ban sponsor, Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., on CBS "60 Minutes": "If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them -- Mr. and Mrs. America, turn them all in -- I would have done it."

2nd Amendment / Mr. and Mrs. America, turn them all in - SFGate

Yes it is ludicrous but that is why you keep posting the idea of ONE Dem.
H.R.2038
Latest Title: Assault Weapons Ban and Law Enforcement Protection Act of 2003
Sponsor: Rep McCarthy, Carolyn [NY-4] (introduced 5/8/2003) Cosponsors (111)

Rep Abercrombie, Neil [HI-1] - 6/16/2003
Rep Acevedo-Vila, Anibal [PR] - 6/14/2004
Rep Ackerman, Gary L. [NY-5] - 5/8/2003
Rep Andrews, Robert E. [NJ-1] - 5/8/2003
Rep Becerra, Xavier [CA-31] - 7/24/2003
Rep Berman, Howard L. [CA-28] - 7/24/2003
Rep Bishop, Timothy H. [NY-1] - 5/8/2003
Rep Blumenauer, Earl [OR-3] - 5/8/2003
Rep Brady, Robert A. [PA-1] - 5/8/2003
Rep Brown, Corrine [FL-3] - 5/8/2003
Rep Capps, Lois [CA-23] - 5/19/2003
Rep Capuano, Michael E. [MA-8] - 5/8/2003
Rep Cardin, Benjamin L. [MD-3] - 6/3/2003
Rep Carson, Julia [IN-7] - 5/8/2003
Rep Case, Ed [HI-2] - 5/8/2003
Rep Clay, Wm. Lacy [MO-1] - 7/24/2003
Rep Conyers, John, Jr. [MI-14] - 5/8/2003
Rep Crowley, Joseph [NY-7] - 7/17/2003
Rep Cummings, Elijah E. [MD-7] - 5/8/2003
Rep Davis, Danny K. [IL-7] - 5/8/2003
Rep DeGette, Diana [CO-1] - 5/21/2003
Rep Delahunt, William D. [MA-10] - 5/8/2003
Rep DeLauro, Rosa L. [CT-3] - 5/8/2003
Rep Deutsch, Peter [FL-20] - 5/19/2003
Rep Emanuel, Rahm [IL-5] - 5/8/2003
Rep Engel, Eliot L. [NY-17] - 5/8/2003
Rep Eshoo, Anna G. [CA-14] - 6/10/2003
Rep Evans, Lane [IL-17] - 6/14/2004
Rep Farr, Sam [CA-17] - 5/8/2003
Rep Fattah, Chaka [PA-2] - 5/8/2003
Rep Filner, Bob [CA-51] - 7/8/2003
Rep Frank, Barney [MA-4] - 5/8/2003
Rep Gephardt, Richard A. [MO-3] - 10/15/2003
Rep Gonzalez, Charles A. [TX-20] - 7/8/2003
Rep Grijalva, Raul M. [AZ-7] - 5/8/2003
Rep Gutierrez, Luis V. [IL-4] - 5/8/2003
Rep Harman, Jane [CA-36] - 5/8/2003
Rep Hastings, Alcee L. [FL-23] - 7/17/2003
Rep Hoeffel, Joseph M. [PA-13] - 5/8/2003
Rep Holt, Rush D. [NJ-12] - 5/8/2003
Rep Honda, Michael M. [CA-15] - 5/8/2003
Rep Hoyer, Steny H. [MD-5] - 7/25/2003
Rep Israel, Steve [NY-2] - 7/15/2003
Rep Jackson, Jesse L., Jr. [IL-2] - 5/8/2003
Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18] - 5/8/2003
Rep Johnson, Eddie Bernice [TX-30] - 5/8/2003
Rep Jones, Stephanie Tubbs [OH-11] - 7/24/2003
Rep Kennedy, Patrick J. [RI-1] - 5/8/2003
Rep Kilpatrick, Carolyn C. [MI-13] - 6/14/2004
Rep Kleczka, Gerald D. [WI-4] - 9/10/2003
Rep Kucinich, Dennis J. [OH-10] - 5/19/2003
Rep Langevin, James R. [RI-2] - 5/8/2003
Rep Lantos, Tom [CA-12] - 5/21/2003
Rep Larson, John B. [CT-1] - 6/3/2003
Rep Lee, Barbara [CA-9] - 5/8/2003
Rep Lewis, John [GA-5] - 5/8/2003
Rep Lipinski, William O. [IL-3] - 5/8/2003
Rep Lofgren, Zoe [CA-16] - 5/8/2003
Rep Lowey, Nita M. [NY-18] - 5/8/2003
Rep Maloney, Carolyn B. [NY-14] - 5/8/2003
Rep Markey, Edward J. [MA-7] - 5/8/2003
Rep Matsui, Robert T. [CA-5] - 7/8/2003
Rep McCollum, Betty [MN-4] - 6/16/2003
Rep McDermott, Jim [WA-7] - 6/3/2003
Rep McGovern, James P. [MA-3] - 5/8/2003
Rep Meehan, Martin T. [MA-5] - 5/8/2003
Rep Meeks, Gregory W. [NY-6] - 5/19/2003
Rep Menendez, Robert [NJ-13] - 5/8/2003
Rep Millender-McDonald, Juanita [CA-37] - 10/2/2003
Rep Miller, George [CA-7] - 5/19/2003
Rep Moran, James P. [VA-8] - 5/8/2003
Rep Nadler, Jerrold [NY-8] - 5/8/2003
Rep Napolitano, Grace F. [CA-38] - 10/2/2003
Rep Norton, Eleanor Holmes [DC] - 5/8/2003
Rep Olver, John W. [MA-1] - 5/21/2003
Rep Owens, Major R. [NY-11] - 5/8/2003
Rep Pallone, Frank, Jr. [NJ-6] - 11/18/2003
Rep Pascrell, Bill, Jr. [NJ-8] - 5/8/2003
Rep Pastor, Ed [AZ-4] - 9/3/2003
Rep Payne, Donald M. [NJ-10] - 5/8/2003
Rep Price, David E. [NC-4] - 9/3/2003
Rep Rangel, Charles B. [NY-15] - 5/8/2003
Rep Rothman, Steven R. [NJ-9] - 5/8/2003
Rep Roybal-Allard, Lucille [CA-34] - 5/8/2003
Rep Ruppersberger, C. A. Dutch [MD-2] - 1/20/2004
Rep Rush, Bobby L. [IL-1] - 5/8/2003
Rep Sabo, Martin Olav [MN-5] - 10/15/2003
Rep Sanchez, Linda T. [CA-39] - 5/8/2003
Rep Sanchez, Loretta [CA-47] - 5/8/2003
Rep Schakowsky, Janice D. [IL-9] - 5/8/2003
Rep Schiff, Adam B. [CA-29] - 7/17/2003
Rep Serrano, Jose E. [NY-16] - 6/10/2003
Rep Shays, Christopher [CT-4] - 5/8/2003
Rep Sherman, Brad [CA-27] - 5/21/2003
Rep Slaughter, Louise McIntosh [NY-28] - 6/23/2003
Rep Smith, Christopher H. [NJ-4] - 5/8/2003
Rep Solis, Hilda L. [CA-32] - 5/8/2003
Rep Stark, Fortney Pete [CA-13] - 5/8/2003
Rep Tauscher, Ellen O. [CA-10] - 5/8/2003
Rep Tierney, John F. [MA-6] - 5/8/2003
Rep Towns, Edolphus [NY-10] - 5/8/2003
Rep Van Hollen, Chris [MD-8] - 5/8/2003
Rep Velazquez, Nydia M. [NY-12] - 5/8/2003
Rep Waters, Maxine [CA-35] - 5/8/2003
Rep Watson, Diane E. [CA-33] - 5/8/2003
Rep Watt, Melvin L. [NC-12] - 9/24/2003
Rep Waxman, Henry A. [CA-30] - 5/8/2003
Rep Weiner, Anthony D. [NY-9] - 5/8/2003
Rep Wexler, Robert [FL-19] - 5/8/2003
Rep Woolsey, Lynn C. [CA-6] - 5/8/2003
Rep Wynn, Albert Russell [MD-4] - 10/17/2003
Rep Kind, Ron [WI-3] - 9/3/2003(withdrawn - 9/16/2003)

Bill Summary & Status - 108th Congress (2003 - 2004) - H.R.2038 - Cosponsors - THOMAS (Library of Congress)
 
I just LOVE this part...

Partial defintion of a semi-automatic rifle:

`(L) A semiautomatic rifle or shotgun originally designed for military or law enforcement use, or a firearm based on the design of such a firearm, that is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, as determined by the Attorney General. In making the determination, there shall be a rebuttable presumption that a firearm procured for use by the United States military or any Federal law enforcement agency is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, and a firearm shall not be determined to be particularly suitable for sporting purposes solely because the firearm is suitable for use in a sporting event.'

So, the fact that there are ~3000 of these rifles competing in a sporting event right now at Camp Perry OH in no way means they are 'particularly suitable for sporting purposes'.

:lol:
 

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