Four Consitutional Amendments proposed by JB

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    1)modify the 1st amendment to read:

    Neither Congress nor any member State shall make any law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

    2)add an amendment that reads:

    Neither Congress, nor any member state shall pass any law that deprives the people, or any class thereof, of equal rights, recognition, and protection under the law

    3)Neither the president of the united states, nor any official acting from the authority of the executive branch of the federal government shall pass any order, proclamation, or command, other than those powers already delegated to said individual by the body of this document, to act to establish any new legislation or modify the text or interpretation of any existing law, as it falls wholly to congress to establish or modify such law and to the Legislative branch to review any law which is deemed suspect.

    4) No person may serve more than twelve years in any office or offices of Congress, be they in the House, the Senate, or any combination thereof
     
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    I'm all for #4.

    We need term limits badly.
     
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    If our government would just follow the Constitution we now have in place the only amendment that would need to be added would be your no. 4.

    Since the 14th Amendment was passed the first amendment also applies to the states as well as the federal government, and it also states that we all have equal protection under the Constitution.

    Although it is clearly ignored, the 10th Amendment clearly states that the powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people, and the powers granted the federal government were very liminted with the bulk of power left to the individual states.

    "The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation and foreign commerce. The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives and liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement and prosperity of the State." - James Madison, Federalist Paper No. 25, 1788

    IMHO, the reason our Constitution never set term limits was that they never invisioned professional politicians in lieu of citizens doing their patrotic duty to serve for a short time and thought that term limits would be determined thru the election process.
     
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    you have term limits....its called voting the guy out....
     
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    I agree

    1) Americans are too stupid to have a free Republic

    2)After 18 or 24 years in office, people have too many ties to big business and the media to allow for truly free campaigns and elections. Term limits help limit such corruption and prevent such entrenchment, which is why they were put in place regarding the presidency
     
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    We already have the right to petition the government for a redress of grievances. People do it all the time. No one is stopping them from doing so. What the hell is the point of adding that?

    We already have the equal protection clause. What exactly do you think this is going to do other than create a whole bunch of lawyers litigating what "a class there of" means?

    There goes all adminsitrative law. Now the executive branch cant do anything unless Congress tells them what it means. Which, of course, is a problem because Congress cant agree on what the law means half the time. Which is exactly why the President is there to enforce what Congress passed.

    Not to mention im sure the President would simply argue that everything the Executive branch can do now is already delegated to him by the body of the Constitution. That one clause makes your entire amendment meaningless.

    This one may have merits. But in reality it's the responsibility of the people to vote. If people want a dictator for life, that's their right unfortunately.
     
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    Q: Have you ever heard of the 14th amendment?

    What? By the "body of this document" ? So you want to pass an amendment stating the President may not actually use any authority delegated to him in the Amendments to the Constitution?

    The judicial branch gets to review laws that are suspect. Why would you want to upset the balance of power between the three branches?

    Why not? You're telling me that in a representative democracy, the people shouldn't get to vote for the candidate of their choice?

    You're telling me that if the people of a state choose a shitty Senator for 50 years, all you have to do is pass some stupid term limit rule and all of a sudden they'll just - completely by chance - pick someone much better? Thanks, but I'll take my odds at the slot machines instead.
     
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    What we need is smarter voters. I don't see how ejecting the morons we have from Congress will change the fact they were put in power by morons.
     
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    We already HAVE term limits, it is called the people's VOTE. You dumb shits just don't get it, do you? If you had any respect or responsibility you would work to unseat those members you have a vote on, you disagree with.

    You see, you do not get to dictate to the citizens of the other 49 States, who and how long they will elect their Senators for. You do not get to dictate to the 434 other Congressional Districts citizens who and for how long they will elect their Representative either.

    This is the ultimate NANNY State attempt. A cry for the Government to save us from our own petty greed and idiocy.
     

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