Former Military Become Dishonorable Swiftboaters

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It's the economy stupid.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

The supposed leaks versus the credible leaks? Many of the leaks mentioned in the ex Military dufus video are bogus charges of faux leaks.

the real leaks have not been coming out of the WH as far as anyone knows. Obama has run a tight ship on security ... kept Obama operation secret for how long .. a year?

Supposed leaks? Credible leaks?

What the fuck are you talking about? There is no doubt there are leaks coming from somewhere, even Diane Feinstein called for them to stop. Your argument that the fact that no one has found out who is leaking is not evidence that they are not coming from the White House. Only a moron like rdean would try to argue that, you are far from that stupid, unless you suddenly want to prove me wrong about your intelligence.

The ex Military video makes claims about supposed leaks. The previous posts laid it all out. you keep ignoring comments as if ignoring them make them untrue.

Then there are credible charges of leaks that Sen Feinstein and President Obama and his Administration are upset about.

The only people saying the WH is leaking things are political enemies of the President.

Stop saying every scream about a leak is a valid claim of a leak.

you have failed to address the comments proving your other posts to be false and imbecilic.

I replied to multiple comments you made, want to try again claiming I am ignoring something?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Did you read the link and the OP? It is all explained. All you are doing is repeating bogus charges. Read the facts.

Fact, these are leaks. Nothing anyone can explain will change the fact that they are leaks. If they were not leaks there would be no reason for the DOJ to appoint two prosecutors to investigate the non existent leaks. You are simply misreading the article you are using to justify your idiocy.

there you go again............


the thread is about the suppose leaks by ex military idiots that have been addressed as false. You keep ignoring that even though you repeated the bogus charges and ignored the facts when given to you. You add another argument about real leaks which was never part of the OP. I should know, I wrote the thread starter.

so, there are supposed leaks and real leaks. two separate arguments: one I made in the OP and another you added to deflect and deceive while you ignore facts

you never address comments made that prove you full of shit

They have not, despite your attempt to claim otherwise, proven false. Seal Team Six was leaked. The fact that it is possible to guess that they were involved does not change the fact that it leaked. Even your link admits it was leaked. The fact that the reporter thinks that the members of Seal Team Six, and their families, have nothing to worry about, does not make the members of that team, or their families, any safer, even if it makes him feel better.

 

[9thIDdoc]

--" Obama has taken way too much credit for killing al Qaeda's leader. "Mr. President, you did not kill Osama bin Laden, America did. The work that the American military has done killed Osama bin Laden. You did not," says a former Navy SEAL interviewed in the film."

Absolutely true.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

President Obama never said he killed Osama bin Laden. but that is beside the point.

e credible leaks? Many of the leaks mentioned in the ex Military dufus video are bogus charges of faux leaks.

the real leaks have not been coming out of the WH as far as anyone knows. Obama has run a tight ship on security ... kept Obama operation secret for how long .. a year?

Here are the facts:

During his speech to the nation and world, Obama did not divulge the name of SEAL Team Six, saying only that a "small team of Americans carried out the operation with extraordinary courage and capability."

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It quickly leaked that SEAL Team Six had executed the raid, but this was hardly surprising as the SEALs are the principal Special Operations Forces in the Afghanistan/Pakistan theater, * something that has been discussed in multiple news stories over the past several years and in bestselling books such as "Lone Survivor" by former Navy SEAL Marcus Luttrell.

Perhaps if you had absolutely no knowledge of the U.S. military, or indeed access to Wikipedia where SEAL Team Six has had an entry since 2004, it would be news to you that SEAL Team Six, along with the Army's Delta Force, are America's premier counterterrorism units. Obviously, a mission to take out bin Laden would not be entrusted to any other than these elite units.

Pakistani journalists started arriving at bin Laden's Abbottabad compound soon after the helicopter crashed and started filing stories about the mysterious helicopter and its oddly shaped tail rotor. An Abbottabad resident even tweeted about the unusual sound of helicopters flying over the city in the middle of the night.

It wasn't much of a leap for reporters to ascertain that these helicopters had particular features that had prevented them from being detected by Pakistani radar.

Soon after the SEALs had raided the Abbottabad command, Pakistani officials on the ground were interrogating bin Laden's wives and children at the compound who told them that bin Laden had just been killed. None of this was going to stay secret for long.

It is just plain wrong that anyone in the U.S. government leaked the name of the CIA asset in Pakistan, Dr Shakil Afridi, who was recruited by the agency in its quest to find bin Laden. This information first surfaced in a story in the Guardian newspaper in July 2011 after Afridi was arrested by the Pakistani intelligence service, ISI. It is obvious that this information was leaked not by the Americans but the Pakistanis who have done their own investigation of the bin Laden raid, which embarrassed them considerably.

Former Military Become Dishonorable Swiftboaters

Peter Bergen
Ex-SEALs slam Obama over leaks
Ex-military officers take aim at Obama
Adm. McRaven on the bin Laden raid

-- The president announced the bin Laden raid before intelligence picked up from bin Laden's compound could be fully exploited.

WRONG - A Lie: Tweets and news came out of Afghanistan as soon as choppers were and and when Blackhawk crashed Pakistani journalists started arriving at bin Laden's Abbottabad compound

Anatomy of a Raid: Osama bin Laden's final momemts

Mullen then told Obama and his national security team, "Kayani has asked for us to go public," which swayed Obama to announce the raid sooner than was planned. (Obama wanted to wait for 100% DNA confirmation that it was bin Laden. At the time of the president's announcement about the raid the confirmation was at 95%.)

During his speech to the nation and world, Obama did not divulge the name of SEAL Team Six, saying only that a "small team of Americans carried out the operation with extraordinary courage and capability."
---

then other bogus charges...answered...


-- The use of hitherto covert "stealth" helicopters on the raid was publicized.

-- The name of the secret unit that executed the raid --SEAL Team Six -- was made public putting them and their families at risk.

-- The name of the Pakistani doctor recruited by the CIA to help find bin Laden was leaked, jeopardizing him and the CIA's ability to recruit spies in the future. The doctor is now serving 33 years in a Pakistani prison.

Pakistani doctor who helped US appeals verdict

-- Obama has taken way too much credit for killing al Qaeda's leader. "Mr. President, you did not kill Osama bin Laden, America did. The work that the American military has done killed Osama bin Laden. You did not," says a former Navy SEAL interviewed in the film.

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the 4 accusations above are easily dismissed as the wild rantings and ravings of ex military gone bonkers over Obama

 

[Quantum Windbag]

President Obama never said he killed Osama bin Laden. but that is beside the point.

e credible leaks? Many of the leaks mentioned in the ex Military dufus video are bogus charges of faux leaks.

the real leaks have not been coming out of the WH as far as anyone knows. Obama has run a tight ship on security ... kept Obama operation secret for how long .. a year?

Here are the facts:

During his speech to the nation and world, Obama did not divulge the name of SEAL Team Six, saying only that a "small team of Americans carried out the operation with extraordinary courage and capability."

---

It quickly leaked that SEAL Team Six had executed the raid, but this was hardly surprising as the SEALs are the principal Special Operations Forces in the Afghanistan/Pakistan theater, * something that has been discussed in multiple news stories over the past several years and in bestselling books such as "Lone Survivor" by former Navy SEAL Marcus Luttrell.

Perhaps if you had absolutely no knowledge of the U.S. military, or indeed access to Wikipedia where SEAL Team Six has had an entry since 2004, it would be news to you that SEAL Team Six, along with the Army's Delta Force, are America's premier counterterrorism units. Obviously, a mission to take out bin Laden would not be entrusted to any other than these elite units.

Pakistani journalists started arriving at bin Laden's Abbottabad compound soon after the helicopter crashed and started filing stories about the mysterious helicopter and its oddly shaped tail rotor. An Abbottabad resident even tweeted about the unusual sound of helicopters flying over the city in the middle of the night.

It wasn't much of a leap for reporters to ascertain that these helicopters had particular features that had prevented them from being detected by Pakistani radar.

Soon after the SEALs had raided the Abbottabad command, Pakistani officials on the ground were interrogating bin Laden's wives and children at the compound who told them that bin Laden had just been killed. None of this was going to stay secret for long.

It is just plain wrong that anyone in the U.S. government leaked the name of the CIA asset in Pakistan, Dr Shakil Afridi, who was recruited by the agency in its quest to find bin Laden. This information first surfaced in a story in the Guardian newspaper in July 2011 after Afridi was arrested by the Pakistani intelligence service, ISI. It is obvious that this information was leaked not by the Americans but the Pakistanis who have done their own investigation of the bin Laden raid, which embarrassed them considerably.

Former Military Become Dishonorable Swiftboaters

Peter Bergen
Ex-SEALs slam Obama over leaks
Ex-military officers take aim at Obama
Adm. McRaven on the bin Laden raid

-- The president announced the bin Laden raid before intelligence picked up from bin Laden's compound could be fully exploited.

WRONG - A Lie: Tweets and news came out of Afghanistan as soon as choppers were and and when Blackhawk crashed Pakistani journalists started arriving at bin Laden's Abbottabad compound

Anatomy of a Raid: Osama bin Laden's final momemts

Mullen then told Obama and his national security team, "Kayani has asked for us to go public," which swayed Obama to announce the raid sooner than was planned. (Obama wanted to wait for 100% DNA confirmation that it was bin Laden. At the time of the president's announcement about the raid the confirmation was at 95%.)

During his speech to the nation and world, Obama did not divulge the name of SEAL Team Six, saying only that a "small team of Americans carried out the operation with extraordinary courage and capability."
---

then other bogus charges...answered...


-- The use of hitherto covert "stealth" helicopters on the raid was publicized.

-- The name of the secret unit that executed the raid --SEAL Team Six -- was made public putting them and their families at risk.

-- The name of the Pakistani doctor recruited by the CIA to help find bin Laden was leaked, jeopardizing him and the CIA's ability to recruit spies in the future. The doctor is now serving 33 years in a Pakistani prison.

Pakistani doctor who helped US appeals verdict

-- Obama has taken way too much credit for killing al Qaeda's leader. "Mr. President, you did not kill Osama bin Laden, America did. The work that the American military has done killed Osama bin Laden. You did not," says a former Navy SEAL interviewed in the film.

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the 4 accusations above are easily dismissed as the wild rantings and ravings of ex military gone bonkers over Obama

Do you think that if you post this enough it will magically become true?

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

quantum dooche addresses and refutes nothing. just throws shit against the walls and calls it art

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

nother wingnut bogus video?

Retired CIA officer Fred Rustmann says in the video that days after the killing of bin Laden, Hollywood elites were invited into the White House for a briefing on exactly how the raid took place. Rustmann says the administration leaked "what kind of sources we had, what kind of methods we used, all for the purpose of making a Hollywood movie."

As Rustmann speaks, the image in the background is of Bigelow receiving her Oscar--the first ever won by a female director--from Barbra Streisand for "The Hurt Locker."

When the video discusses the supposed briefing Hollywood got days after the raid, Obama is shown speaking in a small theater to Tom Hanks, Steven Spielberg and others. The only problem is, that image was taken in March 2010 at the White House Family Theater before a screening of the HBO mini-series "The Pacific," The Hollywood Reporter points out. It's unlikely that Obama is spilling secrets about how he killed bin Laden--a whole year before it happened.

deception, deflection, deceit...

 

[Quantum Windbag]

nother wingnut bogus video?

Retired CIA officer Fred Rustmann says in the video that days after the killing of bin Laden, Hollywood elites were invited into the White House for a briefing on exactly how the raid took place. Rustmann says the administration leaked "what kind of sources we had, what kind of methods we used, all for the purpose of making a Hollywood movie."

As Rustmann speaks, the image in the background is of Bigelow receiving her Oscar--the first ever won by a female director--from Barbra Streisand for "The Hurt Locker."

When the video discusses the supposed briefing Hollywood got days after the raid, Obama is shown speaking in a small theater to Tom Hanks, Steven Spielberg and others. The only problem is, that image was taken in March 2010 at the White House Family Theater before a screening of the HBO mini-series "The Pacific," The Hollywood Reporter points out. It's unlikely that Obama is spilling secrets about how he killed bin Laden--a whole year before it happened.

deception, deflection, deceit...

Let me get this straight.

There actually was a meeting where people were invited to the White House to discuss details of the bin Laden raid, but the video is lying about it because they do not have actual footage of the meeting.

WH leaks for propaganda film - Salon.com

 

[Moonglow]

--" Obama has taken way too much credit for killing al Qaeda's leader. "Mr. President, you did not kill Osama bin Laden, America did. The work that the American military has done killed Osama bin Laden. You did not," says a former Navy SEAL interviewed in the film."

Absolutely true.

The former Seal, Ben Smith, in an article (I am presuming there are not two former Navy Seals called Ben Smith) is not as terse as in the video, but even more dramatic.

He warns that America is in the middle of a "cold civil war", which is about to turn hot as "the Obama regime running our country into the ground" prepares to impose martial law.

He writes: "Keep preparing for rough times ahead. Stock your pantry in preparation for lean days, even as the regime attempts to make such things illegal.

"Focus your mind on liberty, that it should never die. I cannot tell you exactly what is coming but I know, as do you, that something unprecedented in American history, perhaps even all human history, is coming soon."

sounds like he has a problem of committing and then not committing.

 

[9thIDdoc]

"sounds like he has a problem of committing and then not committing."

Why the confusion? He is out of the military so he has a right to opinions and politics. You have a problem with that?

 

[Dr Grump]

--" Obama has taken way too much credit for killing al Qaeda's leader. "Mr. President, you did not kill Osama bin Laden, America did. The work that the American military has done killed Osama bin Laden. You did not," says a former Navy SEAL interviewed in the film."

Absolutely true.

At least he didn't do a fly over on a military jet, land on an aircraft carrier, and say "Mission Accomplished"...

 

[Dr Grump]

"sounds like he has a problem of committing and then not committing."

Why the confusion? He is out of the military so he has a right to opinions and politics. You have a problem with that?

Absolutely. And IMO, he's nuts...

 

[daveman]

poor Davey, still swallowing shit in order to back Romney? Romney was the least Conservative of all the GOP primary candidates.

Now you all have to bow to his lily white mormon ass and kiss it.

No, Dante, I will NOT bow down and worship your little tin god.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

nother wingnut bogus video?

Retired CIA officer Fred Rustmann says in the video that days after the killing of bin Laden, Hollywood elites were invited into the White House for a briefing on exactly how the raid took place. Rustmann says the administration leaked "what kind of sources we had, what kind of methods we used, all for the purpose of making a Hollywood movie."

As Rustmann speaks, the image in the background is of Bigelow receiving her Oscar--the first ever won by a female director--from Barbra Streisand for "The Hurt Locker."

When the video discusses the supposed briefing Hollywood got days after the raid, Obama is shown speaking in a small theater to Tom Hanks, Steven Spielberg and others. The only problem is, that image was taken in March 2010 at the White House Family Theater before a screening of the HBO mini-series "The Pacific," The Hollywood Reporter points out. It's unlikely that Obama is spilling secrets about how he killed bin Laden--a whole year before it happened.

deception, deflection, deceit...

Let me get this straight.

There actually was a meeting where people were invited to the White House to discuss details of the bin Laden raid, but the video is lying about it because they do not have actual footage of the meeting.

WH leaks for propaganda film - Salon.com

Idiot. Your own link mentions how strong the Obama admin has been on going after leaks and whistle blowers. It complains about people being given a tour and info as being as relevant as unapproved leaks. Nonsense.

It also mentions the hyper partisan Judicial Watch who brought a FOIA lawsuit about meetings with movie makers and the WH. This absent any proof anything classified has been unlawfully provided to anyone. sounds like a phishing expedition

 

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Former Military Become Dishonorable Swiftboaters

Peter Bergen
Ex-SEALs slam Obama over leaks
Ex-military officers take aim at Obama
Adm. McRaven on the bin Laden raid

-- The president announced the bin Laden raid before intelligence picked up from bin Laden's compound could be fully exploited.

WRONG - A Lie: Tweets and news came out of Afghanistan as soon as choppers were and and when Blackhawk crashed Pakistani journalists started arriving at bin Laden's Abbottabad compound

Anatomy of a Raid: Osama bin Laden's final momemts

Mullen then told Obama and his national security team, "Kayani has asked for us to go public," which swayed Obama to announce the raid sooner than was planned. (Obama wanted to wait for 100% DNA confirmation that it was bin Laden. At the time of the president's announcement about the raid the confirmation was at 95%.)

During his speech to the nation and world, Obama did not divulge the name of SEAL Team Six, saying only that a "small team of Americans carried out the operation with extraordinary courage and capability."
---

then other bogus charges...answered...


-- The use of hitherto covert "stealth" helicopters on the raid was publicized.

-- The name of the secret unit that executed the raid --SEAL Team Six -- was made public putting them and their families at risk.

-- The name of the Pakistani doctor recruited by the CIA to help find bin Laden was leaked, jeopardizing him and the CIA's ability to recruit spies in the future. The doctor is now serving 33 years in a Pakistani prison.

Pakistani doctor who helped US appeals verdict

-- Obama has taken way too much credit for killing al Qaeda's leader. "Mr. President, you did not kill Osama bin Laden, America did. The work that the American military has done killed Osama bin Laden. You did not," says a former Navy SEAL interviewed in the film.

------

the 4 accusations above are easily dismissed as the wild rantings and ravings of ex military gone bonkers over Obama

back on track and on topic

 

[Katzndogz]

Former Military Become Dishonorable Swiftboaters

Peter Bergen
Ex-SEALs slam Obama over leaks
Ex-military officers take aim at Obama
Adm. McRaven on the bin Laden raid

-- The president announced the bin Laden raid before intelligence picked up from bin Laden's compound could be fully exploited.

WRONG - A Lie: Tweets and news came out of Afghanistan as soon as choppers were and and when Blackhawk crashed Pakistani journalists started arriving at bin Laden's Abbottabad compound

Anatomy of a Raid: Osama bin Laden's final momemts

Mullen then told Obama and his national security team, "Kayani has asked for us to go public," which swayed Obama to announce the raid sooner than was planned. (Obama wanted to wait for 100% DNA confirmation that it was bin Laden. At the time of the president's announcement about the raid the confirmation was at 95%.)

During his speech to the nation and world, Obama did not divulge the name of SEAL Team Six, saying only that a "small team of Americans carried out the operation with extraordinary courage and capability."
---

then other bogus charges...answered...


-- The use of hitherto covert "stealth" helicopters on the raid was publicized.

-- The name of the secret unit that executed the raid --SEAL Team Six -- was made public putting them and their families at risk.

-- The name of the Pakistani doctor recruited by the CIA to help find bin Laden was leaked, jeopardizing him and the CIA's ability to recruit spies in the future. The doctor is now serving 33 years in a Pakistani prison.

Pakistani doctor who helped US appeals verdict

-- Obama has taken way too much credit for killing al Qaeda's leader. "Mr. President, you did not kill Osama bin Laden, America did. The work that the American military has done killed Osama bin Laden. You did not," says a former Navy SEAL interviewed in the film.

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the 4 accusations above are easily dismissed as the wild rantings and ravings of ex military gone bonkers over Obama

LEAKING NATIONAL SECURITY TO THE MEDIA--for political gain--is DISHONORABLE. And that's exactly what Obama did.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-Xfti7qtT0]Dishonorable Disclosures - YouTube[/ame]

Then obama doubled down by "leaking" the name of the book's author and the town that he lives in.

 

[Full-Auto]

Former Military Become Dishonorable Swiftboaters

Peter Bergen
Ex-SEALs slam Obama over leaks
Ex-military officers take aim at Obama
Adm. McRaven on the bin Laden raid

-- The president announced the bin Laden raid before intelligence picked up from bin Laden's compound could be fully exploited.

WRONG - A Lie: Tweets and news came out of Afghanistan as soon as choppers were and and when Blackhawk crashed Pakistani journalists started arriving at bin Laden's Abbottabad compound

Anatomy of a Raid: Osama bin Laden's final momemts

Mullen then told Obama and his national security team, "Kayani has asked for us to go public," which swayed Obama to announce the raid sooner than was planned. (Obama wanted to wait for 100% DNA confirmation that it was bin Laden. At the time of the president's announcement about the raid the confirmation was at 95%.)

During his speech to the nation and world, Obama did not divulge the name of SEAL Team Six, saying only that a "small team of Americans carried out the operation with extraordinary courage and capability."
---

then other bogus charges...answered...


-- The use of hitherto covert "stealth" helicopters on the raid was publicized.

-- The name of the secret unit that executed the raid --SEAL Team Six -- was made public putting them and their families at risk.

-- The name of the Pakistani doctor recruited by the CIA to help find bin Laden was leaked, jeopardizing him and the CIA's ability to recruit spies in the future. The doctor is now serving 33 years in a Pakistani prison.

Pakistani doctor who helped US appeals verdict

-- Obama has taken way too much credit for killing al Qaeda's leader. "Mr. President, you did not kill Osama bin Laden, America did. The work that the American military has done killed Osama bin Laden. You did not," says a former Navy SEAL interviewed in the film.

------

the 4 accusations above are easily dismissed as the wild rantings and ravings of ex military gone bonkers over Obama

This is just awesome...

The left getting butt hurt once again from truth..

Take some advil we have only begun.....

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

This is just awesome...

The left getting butt hurt once again from truth..

Take some advil we have only begun.....

"we"?????????????????????



a loser with a keyboard and an internet connection?



IT! You're killing me.

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[daveman]

This is just awesome...

The left getting butt hurt once again from truth..

Take some advil we have only begun.....

"we"?????????????????????



a loser with a keyboard and an internet connection?



IT! You're killing me.

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It's funny how you think you're something more than a loser with a keyboard and an internet connection.