Former Military Become Dishonorable Swiftboaters

[Political Junky]

Haven't Democrats milked this enough already...


The Navy Seals put their lives in danger, snuffed Osama, while Obama sat in the White House.

When did the last president go into battle or any military operation as acting president?

 

[Lumpy 1]

Obama made the toughest decision a President can make and military advisors all give him high marks for it.

The buck stops at Obama's desk

sorry if the facts make you uneasy

Sheesh... Interesting expression, kinda rare in fact, coming from a Democrat...

Yep, straight from Democrat Truman. In fact, I wonder if Truman is the only president that used "The buck stops here."

I suspect he's the only Democrat President to use it.

I've noticed the liberal media like to throw around that quote when there's a Republican President but otherwise they just make excuses...

 

[Lumpy 1]

Haven't Democrats milked this enough already...


The Navy Seals put their lives in danger, snuffed Osama, while Obama sat in the White House.

When did the last president go into battle or any military operation as acting president?

None that I know of, why do you ask?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

So trashing the president because OBL was killed on his watch is what you people think will win you votes?


jesus your discusting

Nobody is smashing him for that, they are smashing whoever is leaking the information?

The supposed leaks versus the credible leaks? Many of the leaks mentioned in the ex Military dufus video are bogus charges of faux leaks.

the real leaks have not been coming out of the WH as far as anyone knows. Obama has run a tight ship on security ... kept Obama operation secret for how long .. a year?

Supposed leaks? Credible leaks?

What the fuck are you talking about? There is no doubt there are leaks coming from somewhere, even Diane Feinstein called for them to stop. Your argument that the fact that no one has found out who is leaking is not evidence that they are not coming from the White House. Only a moron like rdean would try to argue that, you are far from that stupid, unless you suddenly want to prove me wrong about your intelligence.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Former Military Become Dishonorable Swiftboaters

Peter Bergen
Ex-SEALs slam Obama over leaks
Ex-military officers take aim at Obama
Adm. McRaven on the bin Laden raid

-- The president announced the bin Laden raid before intelligence picked up from bin Laden's compound could be fully exploited.

WRONG - A Lie: Tweets and news came out of Afghanistan as soon as choppers were and and when Blackhawk crashed Pakistani journalists started arriving at bin Laden's Abbottabad compound

Anatomy of a Raid: Osama bin Laden's final momemts

Mullen then told Obama and his national security team, "Kayani has asked for us to go public," which swayed Obama to announce the raid sooner than was planned. (Obama wanted to wait for 100% DNA confirmation that it was bin Laden. At the time of the president's announcement about the raid the confirmation was at 95%.)

During his speech to the nation and world, Obama did not divulge the name of SEAL Team Six, saying only that a "small team of Americans carried out the operation with extraordinary courage and capability."
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then other bogus charges...answered...


-- The use of hitherto covert "stealth" helicopters on the raid was publicized.

-- The name of the secret unit that executed the raid --SEAL Team Six -- was made public putting them and their families at risk.

-- The name of the Pakistani doctor recruited by the CIA to help find bin Laden was leaked, jeopardizing him and the CIA's ability to recruit spies in the future. The doctor is now serving 33 years in a Pakistani prison.

Pakistani doctor who helped US appeals verdict

-- Obama has taken way too much credit for killing al Qaeda's leader. "Mr. President, you did not kill Osama bin Laden, America did. The work that the American military has done killed Osama bin Laden. You did not," says a former Navy SEAL interviewed in the film.

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the 4 accusations above are easily dismissed as the wild rantings and ravings of ex military gone bonkers over Obama

are you trying to argue that the fact that Seal Team 6 conducted the raid on bin Laden's compound didn't come out? That no one said there was a stealth helicopter involved? That the doctor that got DNA evidence was not named? Can you explain how, if all that stuff did not happen, everyone knows those facts?

Did you read the link and the OP? It is all explained. All you are doing is repeating bogus charges. Read the facts.

Fact, these are leaks. Nothing anyone can explain will change the fact that they are leaks. If they were not leaks there would be no reason for the DOJ to appoint two prosecutors to investigate the non existent leaks. You are simply misreading the article you are using to justify your idiocy.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

are you trying to argue that the fact that Seal Team 6 conducted the raid on bin Laden's compound didn't come out?

During his speech to the nation and world, Obama did not divulge the name of SEAL Team Six, saying only that a "small team of Americans carried out the operation with extraordinary courage and capability."

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It quickly leaked that SEAL Team Six had executed the raid, but this was hardly surprising as the SEALs are the principal Special Operations Forces in the Afghanistan/Pakistan theater, * something that has been discussed in multiple news stories over the past several years and in bestselling books such as "Lone Survivor" by former Navy SEAL Marcus Luttrell.

Perhaps if you had absolutely no knowledge of the U.S. military, or indeed access to Wikipedia where SEAL Team Six has had an entry since 2004, it would be news to you that SEAL Team Six, along with the Army's Delta Force, are America's premier counterterrorism units. Obviously, a mission to take out bin Laden would not be entrusted to any other than these elite units.

Wait a minute. you just said that it leaked, yet you are still arguing there were no leaks. Then you try to pretend that you know enough about SEALs to comment intelligently about them.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

That the doctor that got DNA evidence was not named?

It is just plain wrong that anyone in the U.S. government leaked the name of the CIA asset in Pakistan, Dr Shakil Afridi, who was recruited by the agency in its quest to find bin Laden. This information first surfaced in a story in the Guardian newspaper in July 2011 after Afridi was arrested by the Pakistani intelligence service, ISI. It is obvious that this information was leaked not by the Americans but the Pakistanis who have done their own investigation of the bin Laden raid, which embarrassed them considerably.

Just plain wrong? How did anyone get the name of Shakeel Afridi if it wasn't leaked? Did he hold a press conference to announce his involvement that I missed?

 

[francoHFW]

Chickenhawk Pubs and their silly dupes ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ Fail

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Can you explain how, if all that stuff did not happen, everyone knows those facts?

It's been explained, all you have do do is read the link Are 'Swift Boat' attacks on Obama bogus? - CNN.com

That article did not explain anything, it simply rationalized all the leaks as not being the fault of the US. I wonder if the reporter would have been as adept at rationalization if Palin had been president.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Nobody is smashing him for that, they are smashing whoever is leaking the information?

The supposed leaks versus the credible leaks? Many of the leaks mentioned in the ex Military dufus video are bogus charges of faux leaks.

the real leaks have not been coming out of the WH as far as anyone knows. Obama has run a tight ship on security ... kept Obama operation secret for how long .. a year?

Supposed leaks? Credible leaks?

What the fuck are you talking about? There is no doubt there are leaks coming from somewhere, even Diane Feinstein called for them to stop. Your argument that the fact that no one has found out who is leaking is not evidence that they are not coming from the White House. Only a moron like rdean would try to argue that, you are far from that stupid, unless you suddenly want to prove me wrong about your intelligence.

The ex Military video makes claims about supposed leaks. The previous posts laid it all out. you keep ignoring comments as if ignoring them make them untrue.

Then there are credible charges of leaks that Sen Feinstein and President Obama and his Administration are upset about.

The only people saying the WH is leaking things are political enemies of the President.

Stop saying every scream about a leak is a valid claim of a leak.

you have failed to address the comments proving your other posts to be false and imbecilic.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

are you trying to argue that the fact that Seal Team 6 conducted the raid on bin Laden's compound didn't come out? That no one said there was a stealth helicopter involved? That the doctor that got DNA evidence was not named? Can you explain how, if all that stuff did not happen, everyone knows those facts?

Did you read the link and the OP? It is all explained. All you are doing is repeating bogus charges. Read the facts.

Fact, these are leaks. Nothing anyone can explain will change the fact that they are leaks. If they were not leaks there would be no reason for the DOJ to appoint two prosecutors to investigate the non existent leaks. You are simply misreading the article you are using to justify your idiocy.

there you go again............


the thread is about the suppose leaks by ex military idiots that have been addressed as false. You keep ignoring that even though you repeated the bogus charges and ignored the facts when given to you. You add another argument about real leaks which was never part of the OP. I should know, I wrote the thread starter.

so, there are supposed leaks and real leaks. two separate arguments: one I made in the OP and another you added to deflect and deceive while you ignore facts

you never address comments made that prove you full of shit

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Former Military Become Dishonorable Swiftboaters

Peter Bergen
Ex-SEALs slam Obama over leaks
Ex-military officers take aim at Obama
Adm. McRaven on the bin Laden raid

-- The president announced the bin Laden raid before intelligence picked up from bin Laden's compound could be fully exploited.

WRONG - A Lie: Tweets and news came out of Afghanistan as soon as choppers were and and when Blackhawk crashed Pakistani journalists started arriving at bin Laden's Abbottabad compound

Anatomy of a Raid: Osama bin Laden's final momemts

Mullen then told Obama and his national security team, "Kayani has asked for us to go public," which swayed Obama to announce the raid sooner than was planned. (Obama wanted to wait for 100% DNA confirmation that it was bin Laden. At the time of the president's announcement about the raid the confirmation was at 95%.)

During his speech to the nation and world, Obama did not divulge the name of SEAL Team Six, saying only that a "small team of Americans carried out the operation with extraordinary courage and capability."
---

then other bogus charges...answered...


-- The use of hitherto covert "stealth" helicopters on the raid was publicized.

-- The name of the secret unit that executed the raid --SEAL Team Six -- was made public putting them and their families at risk.

-- The name of the Pakistani doctor recruited by the CIA to help find bin Laden was leaked, jeopardizing him and the CIA's ability to recruit spies in the future. The doctor is now serving 33 years in a Pakistani prison.

Pakistani doctor who helped US appeals verdict

-- Obama has taken way too much credit for killing al Qaeda's leader. "Mr. President, you did not kill Osama bin Laden, America did. The work that the American military has done killed Osama bin Laden. You did not," says a former Navy SEAL interviewed in the film.

------

the 4 accusations above are easily dismissed as the wild rantings and ravings of ex military gone bonkers over Obama

some things need repeating,,,,

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

are you trying to argue that the fact that Seal Team 6 conducted the raid on bin Laden's compound didn't come out?

During his speech to the nation and world, Obama did not divulge the name of SEAL Team Six, saying only that a "small team of Americans carried out the operation with extraordinary courage and capability."

---

It quickly leaked that SEAL Team Six had executed the raid, but this was hardly surprising as the SEALs are the principal Special Operations Forces in the Afghanistan/Pakistan theater, * something that has been discussed in multiple news stories over the past several years and in bestselling books such as "Lone Survivor" by former Navy SEAL Marcus Luttrell.

Perhaps if you had absolutely no knowledge of the U.S. military, or indeed access to Wikipedia where SEAL Team Six has had an entry since 2004, it would be news to you that SEAL Team Six, along with the Army's Delta Force, are America's premier counterterrorism units. Obviously, a mission to take out bin Laden would not be entrusted to any other than these elite units.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

That no one said there was a stealth helicopter involved?

Pakistani journalists started arriving at bin Laden's Abbottabad compound soon after the helicopter crashed and started filing stories about the mysterious helicopter and its oddly shaped tail rotor. An Abbottabad resident even tweeted about the unusual sound of helicopters flying over the city in the middle of the night.

It wasn't much of a leap for reporters to ascertain that these helicopters had particular features that had prevented them from being detected by Pakistani radar.

Soon after the SEALs had raided the Abbottabad command, Pakistani officials on the ground were interrogating bin Laden's wives and children at the compound who told them that bin Laden had just been killed. None of this was going to stay secret for long.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

That the doctor that got DNA evidence was not named?

It is just plain wrong that anyone in the U.S. government leaked the name of the CIA asset in Pakistan, Dr Shakil Afridi, who was recruited by the agency in its quest to find bin Laden. This information first surfaced in a story in the Guardian newspaper in July 2011 after Afridi was arrested by the Pakistani intelligence service, ISI. It is obvious that this information was leaked not by the Americans but the Pakistanis who have done their own investigation of the bin Laden raid, which embarrassed them considerably.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Can you explain how, if all that stuff did not happen, everyone knows those facts?

It's been explained, all you have do do is read the link Are 'Swift Boat' attacks on Obama bogus? - CNN.com

 

[daveman]

Former Military Become Dishonorable Swiftboaters

It's not dishonorable to oppose Obama's presidency.

Not that you'll comprehend that...

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

poor Davey, still swallowing shit in order to back Romney? Romney was the least Conservative of all the GOP primary candidates.

Now you all have to bow to his lily white mormon ass and kiss it.

 

[blackhawk]

The key words in this whole thing are former military after you retire and take the uniform off you are free to voice your opinion about the Commander In Chief just as any other citizen is free to do if you disagree with them fine but they have as much right to criticize the President as you do to praise him.

 

[9thIDdoc]

The implication that it was in any way dishonorable for the "Swift Boaters" to reveil the truth is itself a nasty bit of slander that is itself shameful. Kerry's actions proved him dishonorable at best.