Foreshadowing: Stalin

[user_name_guest]

The collapse of the financial and auto industries.

Auto industries deserved it. They are the ones who make the decisions. And guess what? The decision they made will go down reminiscent of Bush decision to go to Iraq.

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

The right is so afraid that Obama will be successfull in his presidency that they have already begin to lay the ground of sabotaging what he tries to do.

Absolutely false... If Hussein governs as promised, there is absolutely no potential for success... It is perfectly valid to fear catastrophe... it is perfectly reasonable.

This election is analogous to a bus ride where a vote was held and the majority decided to let the children drive the bus... this because the opposition had driven the bus to great heights, through dangerous passes, along vast chasms... So what we've done is to give the wheel to the children on the way down. Children who will measure success by the fact that, at the end of the trip, it can simply be said that 'we're down'... whether or not that 'down' is a function of those children drove the bus over the edge into one of those chasms... where the bus lays flattened, upside down and smoldering, with most occupants broken and or deceased... will simply not matter. What will be important is that we will have all shared the experience, be they those riding in first class or on the roof... that we will all be equally broke, is all that will matter.

Hopefully, we will get the 60 votes and he can implement a leftist/liberal/ progressive agenda to try and heal the sickness that the NeoCons created in our society.

Now what 'sickness' is that, Pogue? And be as specific as your intellectual limitations allow...

Yes, Pogo, liberalism is a valid philosophy

False... Leftism is not valid... as the calculation upon which it rests is logically flawed. It is impossible to destroy wealth and provide that which only the production of weath can provide...

and long term will always win over the conservative entropy the seeks solace in the status quo and the past.

Leftism will never win... it has never won anything beyond fleeting popular majorities, which brings it temporal power.

Where leftism creates disaster, that which rises from the ashes is ALWAYS CAPITALISM: People freely exchanging goods and services the mutual benefit of both parties...

Of course you're an imbecile, so it has never occured to you that in the HISTORY of humanity NOT ONE Socialist culture has EVER sprouted to any degree of success. They sprout here and there and inevitably die out, expiring, due to its intrinsic flaws being unable to sustain the dead weight, which inevitably must become its primary economic product, seconded by dispair and apathy.

Scream all you want, but a liberal progressive philosophy is the future.

Wrong again sis... the only thing that comes from the Progressive philosophy is regression and regression can only produce the undermining of the culture; which of course means the culture cannot be sustained, thus it must collapse, thus Liberalism is not the future... but 'The End.' So what you're saying Pogue is that your bowing with pride over the fact that the US is now Looking at it's future... which is it's certain demise.

ROFLMNAO... OH! you're all over it!

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

The ongoing transfer of power is really the eroding power of representational governments and the usurption of that power into the hands of the captians of international capitalism, folks.

Of course that this imbecile can't define so much as a single instance where such can be shown to be happening... This should in NO WAY influence you from accepting this tripe as sound reasoning.

 

[editec]

Makes sense. After all, the modern state isn't that old a concept. Perhaps it will be overtaken by international megacorps.

In many ways the transference of power has already happened in the USA and most of the so called first world.

Of course we can expect to see governments continue to exist as a means of controlling the populations, but the real power behind those governments is now and will continue to become even more securely in the hands of great capital.

You know when you're driving down the road and you read signs saying: this section of the road is being cleaned by the XYZ, company?

What is that, really>

That is the governments acknowledging that they are powerless to deal with social problems, and granting that responsibility to corporations.

Pay close attention to this Somali pirate event.

I mean pay VERY CLOSE attention to it.

I am stunned that to date no national government has moved to clean up that mess.

But I will NOT be stunned if some government pays some for-profit corporation tpo clean it up for them.

The defanging of the nation state is what we are really seeing happen here,

The war in Iraq is still ANOTHER example of that happening, too.

I am informed that there are more armed mercenaries in Iraq than men armed by our government.

That doesn't strike any of us as weird?

It is only wierd if you think that government are anything but a tool that is now being used by the monied classes.

Yeah, that's right, what I am saying is that now our formerly representational government of the people by the people and for the people, is a tool that is being manipulated by the puppet masters of big money.

 

[Old Rocks]

In many ways the transference of power has already happened in the USA and most of the so called first world.

Of course we can expect to see governments continue to exist as a means of controlling the populations, but the real power behind those governments is now and will continue to become even more securely in the hands of great capital.

You know when you're driving down the road and you read signs saying: this section of the road is being cleaned by the XYZ, company?

What is that, really>

That is the governments acknowledging that they are powerless to deal with social problems, and granting that responsibility to corporations.

Pay close attention to this Somali pirate event.

I mean pay VERY CLOSE attention to it.

I am stunned that to date no national government has moved to clean up that mess.

But I will NOT be stunned if some government pays some for-profit corporation tpo clean it up for them.

The defanging of the nation state is what we are really seeing happen here,

The war in Iraq is still ANOTHER example of that happening, too.

I am informed that there are more armed mercenaries in Iraq than men armed by our government.

That doesn't strike any of us as weird?

It is only wierd if you think that government are anything but a tool that is now being used by the monied classes.

Yeah, that's right, what I am saying is that now our formerly representational government of the people by the people and for the people, is a tool that is being manipulated by the puppet masters of big money.

The use of people like Blackwater, both in Iraq, and in New Orleans, is a matter that I have been concerned about for a great while. We have merceneries that have no allegiance except to their CEO and paycheck taking a major part in a war, and a disaster. A military organization without tradition or conscience, answerable only to one man. The immediate analogy that springs to mind is the SS.
Blackwater Down

 

[editec]

The use of people like Blackwater, both in Iraq, and in New Orleans, is a matter that I have been concerned about for a great while. We have merceneries that have no allegiance except to their CEO and paycheck taking a major part in a war, and a disaster. A military organization without tradition or conscience, answerable only to one man. The immediate analogy that springs to mind is the SS.
Blackwater Down

The immediate analogy that springs to my mind is the PINKERTONS.

They were the corporate assassins of the strike breaking Robber Barons when our grandfathers were trying to get a decent days pay for a decent days work.

 

[Munin]

"President Bush must be a socialist and all who voted for him must be socialist, because they imposed the biggest socialistic bailout in American history by electing George W Bush."

Well this makes as much sense as the OP.