Ford's Electric Car

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    Great! Now lets talk about the electricity needed to charge all these vehicles.
     
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    What difference does it make if emmissions are coming from a tailpipe or a smokestack?

    None.
     
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    Yup. A few years back, peak oilers were all atwitter over how peak oil itself would cause solutions to peak oil, like EVs, from coming to market. We got 2 new ones last month, we'll get more in 2011 and 2012, and the more we make, the less oil we will use in powering them.
     
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    Worried that the sun is going to get turned off sometime soon? What are rooftops in America work in terms of electrical energy, 500 Gw? 700 Gw? Certainly isn't a baseload solution, but at the end of the day finding the energy isn't a problem.
     
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    True. But there aren't alot of emissions from these things.

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    70% of the electricity used to charge these cars will come from coal and natural gas.
    I'm not discounting the contribution of wind and solar, nor their potential. But neither will be able to keep up with any substantial use of EV's.
     
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    Maybe today. Certainly there is no expectation that this percentage will ever remain stable in an environment concentrating on more green sources of electrical generation.

    Sure they can. EVs aren't going to replace 225 million ICE powered autos in America tomorrow, any more than those 225 million autos popped up all at once since the Model T was first built.

    We build a few EVs, we put up some windmills. We build more EVs, we build a few nukes. We build more EVs, we mandate PVs on the roof for all new residential and commerical construction. We build a few more EVs, and we mandate PVs on all pre-existing residentail and commercial construction when new permits are issued.

    Give it a quarter century or so and presto, big chunks of the American public rides around in EVs. Every spike in gasoline costs reinforces the idea that depending on our own ability to generate electricity to run our transport fleet is pretty cool...versus depending on the vulgarities of the world market and crude oil price volatility.
     
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    There won't be any new nukes built, thanks to the same enviro cacklers who want to shove you into an electric car.
     
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    More efficient? easier to control polloution?
    Less control of America from the ME?
    btw only 50% or so of our electricity involves a smokestack.
     
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