For Those That Harp on the Constitution on the subject of Health Care

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    FiveThirtyEight: Politics Done Right: Constitutional Chicanery

    More, after the jump.

    Thoughts?

    Extra Note: Social Security went through the same thing.
     
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    The question of Constitutionality of the health care legislation lies primarily in the so-called "public option". The Dems think this is the way to create competition among health insurance companies by providing a lower cost, taxpayer subsidized insurance program.

    I wrote an email to the Dem senator from Ohio , Sherrod Brown, and asked him, among other things, where in the Constitution does the ferderal government get the authority to compete directly with the private sector in healthcare, or anything else. He wrote me back providing information on why federal healthcare is needed and what his position is. No where in the email did he even give a hint of the constitutional basis for this legislation.

    Since he did not address my questions directly, or indirectly I must presume that he is addmitting there is none, but they, the Dems, are going to go full speed ahead in order to give Obama a victory, and the Consititution is only something they rely on when it suits their purposes. This legislation, if it is signed into law will be just another nail pounded into the coffin of freedom in this country.

    If anyone can cite the Article and Section of the Constitution that permits the federal government to compete against the private sector regardless of the issue I would like to see it because I can not find it in my copy of the document.
     
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    So, just because the gubmint ignores the Constitution in other areas, it's OK to keep on doing so when you like it?

    Typical.
     
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    I post a article and you attack me? C'mon Dude. :lol:
     
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    In that case, anything that is public is unconstitutional in your eyes. Social Security, Medicare, Public Education System, Food Stamps, Welfare, Post Office, Prisons, etc. In fact, that would also make police forces and firefighters unconstitutional since they are going against private companies.

    Congratulations on not well thought out ideas!

    But here, back in reality:

    The “Government-Run” Mantra | FactCheck.org

    Thank You, Come Again.
     
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    I used "you" in the general, not the specific.
     
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    Well thank you for clarifying then. :cool:
     
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    What do you expect?? He didn't even read the article.. Which makes some very valid points.. Points that the right can't argue with.. They can only deny and spin..
     
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    Social Security and Medicare are unconstitutional and should be abolished.
    Check your facts - the Post Office is covered under the Postal Clause Article I, section 8, clause 7.
    Public education is a local issue and hence is constitutional because it is a power retained by the states. Only the federal interference is unconstitutional.

    Talk about rampant ignorance.
    Thank you, try again.
     
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    I noticed you ignored the rest of which I listed. As for those two being unconstitutional, gee, you mean to say that the Right's "Conservative" Hero Ronald Reagan saved a unconstitutional program? :eek:

    Public education is a local issue, as is the health of the citizens and making sure they have enough money to get food.
     

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