For those of you who think Obama has not helped create or save jobs...

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    1) The Stimulus: created around 2 million jobs. According to Moody Analytics, it "significantly softened the recession."

    What is Obama's actual record on creating jobs? | syracuse.com

    2) According to this site that cites empirican research, it is likely the Recovery Act's benefits significantly outweighed the costs:

    Did the stimulus work? A review of the nine best studies on the subject - The Washington Post

    3) The results of Obama extending unemployment benefits under his stimulus plan reduced the fall of GDP by 18.3% and saved 1.6 million jobs

    ETA News Release: US Labor Department study underscores positive impact of unemployment insurance [11/16/2010]

    4) 114,407 teaching jobs have been created or saved

    Education Jobs Fund - Official Website

    5) The GM, Crysler bailout added about 45,000 and saved about 1 million:

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/one_year_later_autos_report.pdf

    (^^^The White House is citing the Bureau of Labor Statistics in this article)


    I found other independent research showing "possible economic progress" under Obama's stimulus, but I know you cons would be quick to jump all over any information like that. For now, though, this should settle the argument that Obama "has done nothing." If you would all just stop watching Fox News (or MSNBC), you may just have an informed opinion about Obama.
     
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    Most Federal/Gubmint and Union afilliated jobs.

    We get it already.

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    It's amazing that some people still buy the "saved or created" business. Even the WH isn't pushing that crap anymore.
    The stimulus was the biggest failure in public policy since the WIN button. Even by the administration's own accounting it failed.
     
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    You obviously didn't even read the aricles. Either that, or...:eusa_liar:
     
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    It was such a success that he had to ask for more...
     
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    Everyone agrees the stimulus didn't go far enough, but to label it a "failure" is simply not true.
     
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    It makes me laugh when I see people cite these stats and articles.

    NO ONE SIAD TAKING A TRILLION DOLLARS AND GIVING IT TO PEOPLE SO THEY CAN HIRE PEOPLE WOULD NOT RESULT IN PEOPLE GETTING HIRED.

    The question that was presented was....will it prove to be more cost effective AND time efficient if we do nothing and let the private sector do what it has done for decades...and what it has done so that 91% of the people ARE working (people seem to forget about the 91% opf Americans that have jobs).....

    But the irony?

    Despite a trillion dollars borrowed and spent and 3 years have passed....poeople are still doing their best to show SOME sort of positive news out of it.
     
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    It was an unmitigated expensive disaster.

    And what the hell is a "saved" job??
     
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    You are deliberately ignoring the content of these sources.
     
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    If an owner of a baseball team bought a player with a reputation of being a slugger for 5 million a year and signed him to a 3 year contract....and at the end of his thrid year, he averaged 10 HR's a year, 30 RBI's a year and batted .230...

    Would you think the owner saw him as a failure or as "not doing enough"?
     

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