For those of you who think Bush was a better president than Obama....

[uscitizen]

Your ignorance is laughable. When Clinton was done, we had a budget surplus. There is no disputing that. The economic crisis started when Bush was president. I don't necessarily blame Bush for the economic crisis, but it would be absolutely ludicrous to blame Clinton for it.

Actually, there is a LOT of disputing that.

We didn't have a "surplus", we had a situation where for a breif moment, payments into the Social Security and Medicare Trust funds were exceeding deficits into the "General Fund" that powers everything else. That wasn't going to last because of our aging population, and the fact that the stock market had already peaked and was declining.

Clinton certainly does deserve a lot of the blame for the 2001 recession and laid the roots of the 2008 recession.

He's the one who signed the ridiculous trade treaties that made it easier for big companies to offshore jobs. ALL of our problems are linked to that. But the man never saw a trade treaty he didn't love.

Yes and Reagan and Newt also deserve a good part of the blame for also working on laying the foundations for the fall. Clowntoon and Bush II carried the ball forward just as Obama currently is.

 

[Big Black Dog]

Obama is the worst President this country has ever had. He's truly an ass clown.

 

[uscitizen]

Absolutist.

Usually just old farts turn into absolutists.
this is the sickest I have ever been, etc. No sense of the past at all.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Obama Accomplishments:

1. Ordered all federal agencies to undertake a study and make recommendations for ways to cut spending
2. Ordered a review of all federal operations to identify and cut wasteful spending and practices
3. Instituted enforcement for equal pay for women
4. Beginning the withdrawal of US troops from Iraq
5. Families of fallen soldiers have expenses covered to be on hand when the body arrives at Dover AFB
6 Ended media blackout on war casualties; reporting full information
7. Ended media blackout on covering the return of fallen soldiers to Dover AFB; the media is now permitted to do so pending adherence to respectful rules and approval of fallen soldier’s family
8. The White House and federal government are respecting the Freedom of Information Act
9. Instructed all federal agencies to promote openness and transparency as much as possible
10. Limits on lobbyist’s access to the White House
11. Limits on White House aides working for lobbyists after their tenure in the administration
12. Ended the previous stop-loss policy that kept soldiers in Iraq/Afghanistan longer than their enlistment date
13. Phasing out the expensive F-22 war plane and other outdated weapons systems, which weren’t even used or needed in Iraq/Afghanistan
14. Removed restrictions on embryonic stem-cell research
15. Federal support for stem-cell and new biomedical research
16. New federal funding for science and research labs
17. States are permitted to enact federal fuel efficiency standards above federal standards
18. Increased infrastructure spending (roads, bridges, power plants) after years of neglect
19. Funds for high-speed, broadband Internet access to K-12 schools
20. New funds for school construction
21 The prison at Guantanamo Bay is being phased out
22. US Auto industry rescue plan
23. Housing rescue plan
24. $789 billion economic stimulus plan
25. The public can meet with federal housing insurers to refinance (the new plan can be completed in one day) a mortgage if they are having trouble paying
26. US financial and banking rescue plan
27. The secret detention facilities in Eastern Europe and elsewhere are being closed
28. Ended the previous policy; the US now has a no torture policy and is in compliance with theGeneva Convention standards
29. Better body armor is now being provided to our troops
30. The missile defense program is being cut by $1.4 billion in 2010
31. Restarted the nuclear nonproliferation talks and building back up the nuclear inspection infrastructure/protocols
32. Reengaged in the treaties/agreements to protect the Antarctic
33. Reengaged in the agreements/talks on global warming and greenhouse gas emissions
34. Visited more countries and met with more world leaders than any president in his first six months in office
35. Successful release of US captain held bySomali pirates; authorized the SEALS to do their job
36. US Navy increasing patrols off Somali coast
37. Attractive tax write-offs for those who buy hybrid automobiles
38. Cash for clunkers program offers vouchers to trade in fuel inefficient, polluting old cars for new cars; stimulated auto sales
39. Announced plans to purchase fuel efficient American-made fleet for the federal government
40. Expanded the SCHIP program to cover health care for 4 million more children
41. Signed national service legislation; expandednational youth service program
42. Instituted a new policy on Cuba, allowing Cuban families to return home to visit loved ones
43. Ended the previous policy of not regulating and labeling carbon dioxide emissions
44. Expanding vaccination programs
45. Immediate and efficient response to the floods in North Dakota and other natural disasters
46. Closed offshore tax safe havens
47. Negotiated deal with Swiss banks to permit US government to gain access to records of tax evaders and criminals
48. Ended the previous policy of offering tax benefits to corporations who outsource American jobs; the new policy is to promote in-sourcing to bring jobs back
49.. Ended the previous practice of protecting credit card companies; in place of it are new consumer protections from credit card industry’s predatory practices
50. Energy producing plants must begin preparing to produce 15% of their energy from renewable sources
51. Lower drug costs for seniors
52. Ended the previous practice of forbidding Medicare from negotiating with drug manufacturers for cheaper drugs; the federal government is now realizing hundreds of millions in savings
53. Increasing pay and benefits for military personnel
54. Improved housing for military personnel
55. Initiating a new policy to promote federal hiring of military spouses
56. Improved conditions at Walter Reed Military Hospital and other military hospitals
57 Increasing student loans
58. Increasing opportunities in AmeriCorps program
59. Sent envoys to Middle East and other parts of the world that had been neglected for years; reengaging in multilateral and bilateral talks and diplomacy
60. Established a new cyber security office
61. Beginning the process of reforming and restructuring the military 20 years after the Cold War to a more modern fighting force; this includes new procurement policies, increasing size of military, new technology and cyber units and operations, etc.
62. Ended previous policy of awarding no-bid defense contracts
63. Ordered a review of hurricane and natural disaster preparedness
64. Established a National Performance Officer charged with saving the federal government money and making federal operations more efficient
65. Students struggling to make college loan payments can have their loans refinanced
66. Improving benefits for veterans
67. Many more press conferences and town halls and much more media access than previous administration
68. Instituted a new focus on mortgage fraud
69. The FDA is now regulating tobacco
70. Ended previous policy of cutting the FDA and circumventing FDA rules
71. Ended previous practice of having White House aides rewrite scientific and environmental rules, regulations, and reports
72. Authorized discussions with North Korea and private mission by Pres. Bill Clinton to secure the release of two Americans held in prisons
73. Authorized discussions with Myanmar and mission by Sen. Jim Web to secure the release of an American held captive
74. Making more loans available to small businesses
75. Established independent commission to make recommendations on slowing the costs of Medicare
76. Appointment of first Latina to the Supreme Court
77. Authorized construction/opening of additional health centers to care for veterans
78. Limited salaries of senior White House aides; cut to $100,000
79. Renewed loan guarantees for Israel
80. Changed the failing/status quo military command in Afghanistan
81. Deployed additional troops to Afghanistan
82. New Afghan War policy that limits aerial bombing and prioritizes aid, development of infrastructure, diplomacy, and good government practices by Afghans
83. Announced the long-term development of a national energy grid with renewable sources and cleaner, efficient energy production
84. Returned money authorized for refurbishment of White House offices and private living quarters
85. Paid for redecoration of White House living quarters out of his own pocket
86. Held first Seder in White House
87. Attempting to reform the nation’s healthcare system which is the most expensive in the world yet leaves almost 50 million without health insurance and millions more under insured
88. Has put the ball in play for comprehensive immigration reform
89. Has announced his intention to push for energy reform
90. Has announced his intention to push for education reform

Links because most is a bullshit lie.

 

[Charles_Main]

I have to ask: WHY? What in the hell makes Obama a lesser president than Bush. Look, Obama definitely isn't perfect, but to claim Bush was a better president is simply ignorant.

It is Bush who is responsible for creating this deficit crisis. The two wars he started and the tax cuts for the rich have been very costly.

So can anyone compare and contrast, in detail, why they think Bush was a better president? I am very curious to know.

It's about Leadership Ability. Even Facing Overwhelming, Vitriolic Hate 24/7 From the Left, Bush was at least a Better Leader than Obama. The only thing Obama has a clue how to lead is a campaign. He is by far the single most Failed President in our history for Many Reasons, but the Single biggest is his utter lack of Leadership skills, driven by his Massive Ego.

He Believes the Left wing Spin, he really thinks he has all the answers and were all just to fucking stupid to follow him. Clueless on Energy, Clueless on Foreign Policy, Clueless on Economic and Monetary Policy, And so ultra Partisan (Despite that spin) that he can not and will never be an effective President. Period.

And don't even get me started on his Hypocrisy, it would take far to long to fully rant about just of much of a Dishonest, Arrogant Hypocrite Obama is, and I don' want to waste the time.

lol

 

[Charles_Main]

Obama Accomplishments:

1. Ordered all federal agencies to undertake a study and make recommendations for ways to cut spending
2. Ordered a review of all federal operations to identify and cut wasteful spending and practices
3. Instituted enforcement for equal pay for women
4. Beginning the withdrawal of US troops from Iraq
5. Families of fallen soldiers have expenses covered to be on hand when the body arrives at Dover AFB
6 Ended media blackout on war casualties; reporting full information
7. Ended media blackout on covering the return of fallen soldiers to Dover AFB; the media is now permitted to do so pending adherence to respectful rules and approval of fallen soldier’s family
8. The White House and federal government are respecting the Freedom of Information Act
9. Instructed all federal agencies to promote openness and transparency as much as possible
10. Limits on lobbyist’s access to the White House
11. Limits on White House aides working for lobbyists after their tenure in the administration
12. Ended the previous stop-loss policy that kept soldiers in Iraq/Afghanistan longer than their enlistment date
13. Phasing out the expensive F-22 war plane and other outdated weapons systems, which weren’t even used or needed in Iraq/Afghanistan
14. Removed restrictions on embryonic stem-cell research
15. Federal support for stem-cell and new biomedical research
16. New federal funding for science and research labs
17. States are permitted to enact federal fuel efficiency standards above federal standards
18. Increased infrastructure spending (roads, bridges, power plants) after years of neglect
19. Funds for high-speed, broadband Internet access to K-12 schools
20. New funds for school construction
21 The prison at Guantanamo Bay is being phased out
22. US Auto industry rescue plan
23. Housing rescue plan
24. $789 billion economic stimulus plan
25. The public can meet with federal housing insurers to refinance (the new plan can be completed in one day) a mortgage if they are having trouble paying
26. US financial and banking rescue plan
27. The secret detention facilities in Eastern Europe and elsewhere are being closed
28. Ended the previous policy; the US now has a no torture policy and is in compliance with theGeneva Convention standards
29. Better body armor is now being provided to our troops
30. The missile defense program is being cut by $1.4 billion in 2010
31. Restarted the nuclear nonproliferation talks and building back up the nuclear inspection infrastructure/protocols
32. Reengaged in the treaties/agreements to protect the Antarctic
33. Reengaged in the agreements/talks on global warming and greenhouse gas emissions
34. Visited more countries and met with more world leaders than any president in his first six months in office
35. Successful release of US captain held bySomali pirates; authorized the SEALS to do their job
36. US Navy increasing patrols off Somali coast
37. Attractive tax write-offs for those who buy hybrid automobiles
38. Cash for clunkers program offers vouchers to trade in fuel inefficient, polluting old cars for new cars; stimulated auto sales
39. Announced plans to purchase fuel efficient American-made fleet for the federal government
40. Expanded the SCHIP program to cover health care for 4 million more children
41. Signed national service legislation; expandednational youth service program
42. Instituted a new policy on Cuba, allowing Cuban families to return home to visit loved ones
43. Ended the previous policy of not regulating and labeling carbon dioxide emissions
44. Expanding vaccination programs
45. Immediate and efficient response to the floods in North Dakota and other natural disasters
46. Closed offshore tax safe havens
47. Negotiated deal with Swiss banks to permit US government to gain access to records of tax evaders and criminals
48. Ended the previous policy of offering tax benefits to corporations who outsource American jobs; the new policy is to promote in-sourcing to bring jobs back
49.. Ended the previous practice of protecting credit card companies; in place of it are new consumer protections from credit card industry’s predatory practices
50. Energy producing plants must begin preparing to produce 15% of their energy from renewable sources
51. Lower drug costs for seniors
52. Ended the previous practice of forbidding Medicare from negotiating with drug manufacturers for cheaper drugs; the federal government is now realizing hundreds of millions in savings
53. Increasing pay and benefits for military personnel
54. Improved housing for military personnel
55. Initiating a new policy to promote federal hiring of military spouses
56. Improved conditions at Walter Reed Military Hospital and other military hospitals
57 Increasing student loans
58. Increasing opportunities in AmeriCorps program
59. Sent envoys to Middle East and other parts of the world that had been neglected for years; reengaging in multilateral and bilateral talks and diplomacy
60. Established a new cyber security office
61. Beginning the process of reforming and restructuring the military 20 years after the Cold War to a more modern fighting force; this includes new procurement policies, increasing size of military, new technology and cyber units and operations, etc.
62. Ended previous policy of awarding no-bid defense contracts
63. Ordered a review of hurricane and natural disaster preparedness
64. Established a National Performance Officer charged with saving the federal government money and making federal operations more efficient
65. Students struggling to make college loan payments can have their loans refinanced
66. Improving benefits for veterans
67. Many more press conferences and town halls and much more media access than previous administration
68. Instituted a new focus on mortgage fraud
69. The FDA is now regulating tobacco
70. Ended previous policy of cutting the FDA and circumventing FDA rules
71. Ended previous practice of having White House aides rewrite scientific and environmental rules, regulations, and reports
72. Authorized discussions with North Korea and private mission by Pres. Bill Clinton to secure the release of two Americans held in prisons
73. Authorized discussions with Myanmar and mission by Sen. Jim Web to secure the release of an American held captive
74. Making more loans available to small businesses
75. Established independent commission to make recommendations on slowing the costs of Medicare
76. Appointment of first Latina to the Supreme Court
77. Authorized construction/opening of additional health centers to care for veterans
78. Limited salaries of senior White House aides; cut to $100,000
79. Renewed loan guarantees for Israel
80. Changed the failing/status quo military command in Afghanistan
81. Deployed additional troops to Afghanistan
82. New Afghan War policy that limits aerial bombing and prioritizes aid, development of infrastructure, diplomacy, and good government practices by Afghans
83. Announced the long-term development of a national energy grid with renewable sources and cleaner, efficient energy production
84. Returned money authorized for refurbishment of White House offices and private living quarters
85. Paid for redecoration of White House living quarters out of his own pocket
86. Held first Seder in White House
87. Attempting to reform the nation’s healthcare system which is the most expensive in the world yet leaves almost 50 million without health insurance and millions more under insured
88. Has put the ball in play for comprehensive immigration reform
89. Has announced his intention to push for energy reform
90. Has announced his intention to push for education reform

Links because most is a bullshit lie.

No Links, because it is all Utter horse shit.

Love how he gives him credit for "Has Announced his Intention to Blah Blah Blah"

Barack Obama would tell you It was alright to fuck his Grandmother to death if he thought it would get him another 4 years.

I guess he wasn't completely full of shit, he did say he would be different, I just kinda thought he meant better, Not Even more of a dishonest, Hypocritical, Arrogant, Unlawful, and utter clueless asshole than the last guy.

My Bad

 

[uscitizen]

yeah Bush announced his intentions to not let the US be the police force of the world and not be into nation building.

they all lie.

 

[M14 Shooter]

I have to ask: WHY? What in the hell makes Obama a lesser president than Bush. Look, Obama definitely isn't perfect, but to claim Bush was a better president is simply ignorant.

The Obama has continued or expanded just about every Bush policy that He campaigned against, arging that these thngs made GWB a terrible President and that we needed change away from them.

Thus, by The Obama's own standard, He is worse than GWB.

 

[The Rabbi]

Obama Accomplishments:

1. Ordered all federal agencies to undertake a study and make recommendations for ways to cut spending
2. Ordered a review of all federal operations to identify and cut wasteful spending and practices

And how did that work out for us?

 

[Mac1958]

.

No one can hold a candle to Bush. Who else could leave behind the worst economic disaster in 80 years (if not worse in the long run) and not one, but TWO hideous, unwinnable wars?

No way of even knowing what Obama is or is not capable of. That would be like judging the replacement captain on the Titanic after it hit the freakin' iceberg.

W ROCKED baby, he ROCKED.

.

You can state your own opinion. Care to back it up with facts? No budget. No plan. No direction. No hope. That's a pretty impressive legacy for anybody attacking our republic. That this comes from the president is a disgrace.

Your man is a joke.

I notice you couldn't deny the points I made. At least you didn't even bother trying to defend what Bush left behind, and I give you credit for that.

As I said, I have absolutely no way of knowing whether Obama is worth a crap, because he took over a sinking ship. Hell, the ship wasn't just sinking. It was on fire, in the middle of an oil slick, and the commodes were backing up. Obama could be a great pick or a lousy one, no one, NO one, can tell me one way or the other because of what the guy walked in to.

Look, I can understand that conservatives would want to divert away from Bush, change the subject, because what he left behind is absolutely indefensible. Say what you want about Obama, you can't erase the stink of W.

.

 

[L.K.Eder]

For those of you who think Bush was a better president than Obama....

?

What idiot believes that?

Surplus turned into deficit, two failed, illegal wars, and more government does not ‘better’ make.

but he kept americans safe.

 

[code1211]

Yep Obama caused the housing and debt bubbles.

It's not what caused anything.

No matter where you are going, your only option is to proceed from where you are. The Big 0 campaigned saying that it was the worst economy since the Great Depression. It was no surprise to him unless he is a lying SOB with no integrity and no honor.

That he inherited a bad situation is not in doubt. That he made it worse is not in doubt.

What is in doubt is what can be done to correct it. There is doubt on this because the Big 0 has made no progress and in truth has hampered the recovery at every turn.

If he was a foreign enemy he could not be doing more harm.

The housing and debt bubbles caused nothing?
wow just wow.

You ARE delusional and not fit to comment on such subjects.

That's not what I said.

Throughout his administration the excuse makers, you included, cite the horrible circumstances and the what came before and what caused the problems that always have absolutely nothing to do with the Big 0.

You know what? We all have problems. Your man campaigned to have the resposiblitities that he now avoids and that you give him a pass to avoid.

What I said was, it doesn't matter what came before. Now is what it is. It is the job of those who live to cope. Life is lived in the present and the present is the result of what we have done leading up to this point. The future can only be approached from where we are right now. There is no other option.

The housing and debt bubbles caused plenty. The Big 0 is striving to double the size of the debt and has done absolutely nothing to correct the toxic assets. NOTHING.

Your man is a joke. That you don't see this is the true "wow".

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Bush was a republican. To some people the crappyist republican is preferable to the most competent democrat. Simple really.

Almost makes ya feel sorry fer the poor fools.

Almost, but not quite.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

For those of you who think Bush was a better president than Obama....

?

What idiot believes that?

Surplus turned into deficit, two failed, illegal wars, and more government does not ‘better’ make.

but he kept americans safe.

Laughable bullshit.

 

[code1211]

Absolutist.

Usually just old farts turn into absolutists.
this is the sickest I have ever been, etc. No sense of the past at all.

Absolutist statements are the only ones put out by the current administration.

 

[Dr Grump]

Bush was a republican. To some people the crappyist republican is preferable to the most competent democrat. Simple really.

While the possibility exists that could be true.

You cant use this President.

Yeah you can. Easily...

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Obama Accomplishments:

1. Ordered all federal agencies to undertake a study and make recommendations for ways to cut spending
2. Ordered a review of all federal operations to identify and cut wasteful spending and practices
3. Instituted enforcement for equal pay for women
4. Beginning the withdrawal of US troops from Iraq
5. Families of fallen soldiers have expenses covered to be on hand when the body arrives at Dover AFB
6 Ended media blackout on war casualties; reporting full information
7. Ended media blackout on covering the return of fallen soldiers to Dover AFB; the media is now permitted to do so pending adherence to respectful rules and approval of fallen soldier’s family
8. The White House and federal government are respecting the Freedom of Information Act
9. Instructed all federal agencies to promote openness and transparency as much as possible
10. Limits on lobbyist’s access to the White House
11. Limits on White House aides working for lobbyists after their tenure in the administration
12. Ended the previous stop-loss policy that kept soldiers in Iraq/Afghanistan longer than their enlistment date
13. Phasing out the expensive F-22 war plane and other outdated weapons systems, which weren’t even used or needed in Iraq/Afghanistan
14. Removed restrictions on embryonic stem-cell research
15. Federal support for stem-cell and new biomedical research
16. New federal funding for science and research labs
17. States are permitted to enact federal fuel efficiency standards above federal standards
18. Increased infrastructure spending (roads, bridges, power plants) after years of neglect
19. Funds for high-speed, broadband Internet access to K-12 schools
20. New funds for school construction
21 The prison at Guantanamo Bay is being phased out
22. US Auto industry rescue plan
23. Housing rescue plan
24. $789 billion economic stimulus plan
25. The public can meet with federal housing insurers to refinance (the new plan can be completed in one day) a mortgage if they are having trouble paying
26. US financial and banking rescue plan
27. The secret detention facilities in Eastern Europe and elsewhere are being closed
28. Ended the previous policy; the US now has a no torture policy and is in compliance with theGeneva Convention standards
29. Better body armor is now being provided to our troops
30. The missile defense program is being cut by $1.4 billion in 2010
31. Restarted the nuclear nonproliferation talks and building back up the nuclear inspection infrastructure/protocols
32. Reengaged in the treaties/agreements to protect the Antarctic
33. Reengaged in the agreements/talks on global warming and greenhouse gas emissions
34. Visited more countries and met with more world leaders than any president in his first six months in office
35. Successful release of US captain held bySomali pirates; authorized the SEALS to do their job
36. US Navy increasing patrols off Somali coast
37. Attractive tax write-offs for those who buy hybrid automobiles
38. Cash for clunkers program offers vouchers to trade in fuel inefficient, polluting old cars for new cars; stimulated auto sales
39. Announced plans to purchase fuel efficient American-made fleet for the federal government
40. Expanded the SCHIP program to cover health care for 4 million more children
41. Signed national service legislation; expandednational youth service program
42. Instituted a new policy on Cuba, allowing Cuban families to return home to visit loved ones
43. Ended the previous policy of not regulating and labeling carbon dioxide emissions
44. Expanding vaccination programs
45. Immediate and efficient response to the floods in North Dakota and other natural disasters
46. Closed offshore tax safe havens
47. Negotiated deal with Swiss banks to permit US government to gain access to records of tax evaders and criminals
48. Ended the previous policy of offering tax benefits to corporations who outsource American jobs; the new policy is to promote in-sourcing to bring jobs back
49.. Ended the previous practice of protecting credit card companies; in place of it are new consumer protections from credit card industry’s predatory practices
50. Energy producing plants must begin preparing to produce 15% of their energy from renewable sources
51. Lower drug costs for seniors
52. Ended the previous practice of forbidding Medicare from negotiating with drug manufacturers for cheaper drugs; the federal government is now realizing hundreds of millions in savings
53. Increasing pay and benefits for military personnel
54. Improved housing for military personnel
55. Initiating a new policy to promote federal hiring of military spouses
56. Improved conditions at Walter Reed Military Hospital and other military hospitals
57 Increasing student loans
58. Increasing opportunities in AmeriCorps program
59. Sent envoys to Middle East and other parts of the world that had been neglected for years; reengaging in multilateral and bilateral talks and diplomacy
60. Established a new cyber security office
61. Beginning the process of reforming and restructuring the military 20 years after the Cold War to a more modern fighting force; this includes new procurement policies, increasing size of military, new technology and cyber units and operations, etc.
62. Ended previous policy of awarding no-bid defense contracts
63. Ordered a review of hurricane and natural disaster preparedness
64. Established a National Performance Officer charged with saving the federal government money and making federal operations more efficient
65. Students struggling to make college loan payments can have their loans refinanced
66. Improving benefits for veterans
67. Many more press conferences and town halls and much more media access than previous administration
68. Instituted a new focus on mortgage fraud
69. The FDA is now regulating tobacco
70. Ended previous policy of cutting the FDA and circumventing FDA rules
71. Ended previous practice of having White House aides rewrite scientific and environmental rules, regulations, and reports
72. Authorized discussions with North Korea and private mission by Pres. Bill Clinton to secure the release of two Americans held in prisons
73. Authorized discussions with Myanmar and mission by Sen. Jim Web to secure the release of an American held captive
74. Making more loans available to small businesses
75. Established independent commission to make recommendations on slowing the costs of Medicare
76. Appointment of first Latina to the Supreme Court
77. Authorized construction/opening of additional health centers to care for veterans
78. Limited salaries of senior White House aides; cut to $100,000
79. Renewed loan guarantees for Israel
80. Changed the failing/status quo military command in Afghanistan
81. Deployed additional troops to Afghanistan
82. New Afghan War policy that limits aerial bombing and prioritizes aid, development of infrastructure, diplomacy, and good government practices by Afghans
83. Announced the long-term development of a national energy grid with renewable sources and cleaner, efficient energy production
84. Returned money authorized for refurbishment of White House offices and private living quarters
85. Paid for redecoration of White House living quarters out of his own pocket
86. Held first Seder in White House
87. Attempting to reform the nation’s healthcare system which is the most expensive in the world yet leaves almost 50 million without health insurance and millions more under insured
88. Has put the ball in play for comprehensive immigration reform
89. Has announced his intention to push for energy reform
90. Has announced his intention to push for education reform

Links because most is a bullshit lie.

No Links, because it is all Utter horse shit.

Love how he gives him credit for "Has Announced his Intention to Blah Blah Blah"

Barack Obama would tell you It was alright to fuck his Grandmother to death if he thought it would get him another 4 years.

I guess he wasn't completely full of shit, he did say he would be different, I just kinda thought he meant better, Not Even more of a dishonest, Hypocritical, Arrogant, Unlawful, and utter clueless asshole than the last guy.

My Bad

BS. I've posted the links many times and I've invited you pubs to post a list of Repub accomplishments. You don't because you can't.

Link in my sig plus whattheheckhasobamadone.com

I dare you to post a link to pub accomplishments.

LOL

 

[code1211]

.

No one can hold a candle to Bush. Who else could leave behind the worst economic disaster in 80 years (if not worse in the long run) and not one, but TWO hideous, unwinnable wars?

No way of even knowing what Obama is or is not capable of. That would be like judging the replacement captain on the Titanic after it hit the freakin' iceberg.

W ROCKED baby, he ROCKED.

.

You can state your own opinion. Care to back it up with facts? No budget. No plan. No direction. No hope. That's a pretty impressive legacy for anybody attacking our republic. That this comes from the president is a disgrace.

Your man is a joke.

I notice you couldn't deny the points I made. At least you didn't even bother trying to defend what Bush left behind, and I give you credit for that.

As I said, I have absolutely no way of knowing whether Obama is worth a crap, because he took over a sinking ship. Hell, the ship wasn't just sinking. It was on fire, in the middle of an oil slick, and the commodes were backing up. Obama could be a great pick or a lousy one, no one, NO one, can tell me one way or the other because of what the guy walked in to.

Look, I can understand that conservatives would want to divert away from Bush, change the subject, because what he left behind is absolutely indefensible. Say what you want about Obama, you can't erase the stink of W.

.

Here's the thing. The Big 0 did not try to erase the stink. He harped on how everything was the fault of Bush and then did nothing, NOTHING, to correct those things that he claimed to be important.

Instead, he spent more money on nothing than anyone could imagine. He moved the practice of graft and bribes and payoffs from an annoying and costly pass time to a monumentally grotesque bankrupting of the nation's future.

Obamacare is an atrocity against our national liberties passed on lies and deceit, illegally and in violation of normal and ordinary procedures. Obamacare must be ruled unconstitutional as it will raise casts of healthcare and reduce coverages.

His policies are borderline treason and his goal is the destruction of the country.

 

[Dr Grump]

It's not what caused anything.

No matter where you are going, your only option is to proceed from where you are. The Big 0 campaigned saying that it was the worst economy since the Great Depression. It was no surprise to him unless he is a lying SOB with no integrity and no honor.

That he inherited a bad situation is not in doubt. That he made it worse is not in doubt.

What is in doubt is what can be done to correct it. There is doubt on this because the Big 0 has made no progress and in truth has hampered the recovery at every turn.

If he was a foreign enemy he could not be doing more harm.

The housing and debt bubbles caused nothing?
wow just wow.

You ARE delusional and not fit to comment on such subjects.

That's not what I said.

Throughout his administration the excuse makers, you included, cite the horrible circumstances and the what came before and what caused the problems that always have absolutely nothing to do with the Big 0.

You know what? We all have problems. Your man campaigned to have the resposiblitities that he now avoids and that you give him a pass to avoid.

What I said was, it doesn't matter what came before. Now is what it is. It is the job of those who live to cope. Life is lived in the present and the present is the result of what we have done leading up to this point. The future can only be approached from where we are right now. There is no other option.

The housing and debt bubbles caused plenty. The Big 0 is striving to double the size of the debt and has done absolutely nothing to correct the toxic assets. NOTHING.

Your man is a joke. That you don't see this is the true "wow".

That has got to one of the biggest cop outs posts in history..especially the bolded part. That's like asking a bloke who ran the 100 metres in 12 seconds flat to run it again after he's had his legs chopped off.

<dumb, hick, cletus voice> "Don't matter what happened before. Now is what it is"

 

[Dr Grump]

You can state your own opinion. Care to back it up with facts? No budget. No plan. No direction. No hope. That's a pretty impressive legacy for anybody attacking our republic. That this comes from the president is a disgrace.

Your man is a joke.

I notice you couldn't deny the points I made. At least you didn't even bother trying to defend what Bush left behind, and I give you credit for that.

As I said, I have absolutely no way of knowing whether Obama is worth a crap, because he took over a sinking ship. Hell, the ship wasn't just sinking. It was on fire, in the middle of an oil slick, and the commodes were backing up. Obama could be a great pick or a lousy one, no one, NO one, can tell me one way or the other because of what the guy walked in to.

Look, I can understand that conservatives would want to divert away from Bush, change the subject, because what he left behind is absolutely indefensible. Say what you want about Obama, you can't erase the stink of W.

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Here's the thing. The Big 0 did not try to erase the stink. He harped on how everything was the fault of Bush and then did nothing, NOTHING, to correct those things that he claimed to be important.

Instead, he spent more money on nothing than anyone could imagine. He moved the practice of graft and bribes and payoffs from an annoying and costly pass time to a monumentally grotesque bankrupting of the nation's future.

Obamacare is an atrocity against our national liberties passed on lies and deceit, illegally and in violation of normal and ordinary procedures. Obamacare must be ruled unconstitutional as it will raise casts of healthcare and reduce coverages.

His policies are borderline treason and his goal is the destruction of the country.

You would help your cause if you posted credible links to these 'bribes' and 'payoffs'. Hint - living in Chicago doesn't automatically mean you bribe or payoff people..

He's actually trying to do something to save your future, not bankrupt it. But because he has a (D) next to him name, you right-wing loons think he's the reincarnation of Lenin...

You are either treasonous or not. There is no borderline. Again, you are being emotive instead of logical...nothing wrong with that, that is a conservative, rightwing, neocon whack job trait...We expect nothing less...