For the "truthers", my 2 cents on the "conspiracy"

[Fizz]

Yes indeed not much of a fire at all compared to other building fires that did not collapse
YouTube - Bad Ass Skyscraper Fires and Destruction!! Awesome!!

hey dipshit, different construction and it didnt have a fucking 110 story building drop on top of it

there are multiple building fires shown in this video not just one and wtc 7 had debris from a 110 story building damage it ...it didn't have a 110 story building fall on it and as you know NIST states the that the damage was insignificant and that without the damage but with the same fire the building still would of collapsed... so why do you try to be deceptive on this fact ?

how many of those buildings were all steel and had no concrete supporting structure?

 

[eots]

hey dipshit, different construction and it didnt have a fucking 110 story building drop on top of it

there are multiple building fires shown in this video not just one and wtc 7 had debris from a 110 story building damage it ...it didn't have a 110 story building fall on it and as you know NIST states the that the damage was insignificant and that without the damage but with the same fire the building still would of collapsed... so why do you try to be deceptive on this fact ?

how many of those buildings were all steel and had no concrete supporting structure?

NIST avoids a direct answer to that question saying there are many buildings of similar design and there have been similar fires in some of these buildings through out the nation and finds no particular design flaw with wtc 7 and that it is the only steel framed building in history to collapse due to fire

 

[Fizz]

there are multiple building fires shown in this video not just one and wtc 7 had debris from a 110 story building damage it ...it didn't have a 110 story building fall on it and as you know NIST states the that the damage was insignificant and that without the damage but with the same fire the building still would of collapsed... so why do you try to be deceptive on this fact ?

how many of those buildings were all steel and had no concrete supporting structure?

NIST avoids a direct answer to that question saying there are many buildings of similar design and there have been similar fires in some of these buildings through out the nation and finds no particular design flaw with wtc 7 and that it is the only steel framed building in history to collapse due to fire

i didnt ask the NIST. i asked YOU.

how many buildings in the video you provided were all steel and had no concrete supporting structure?

 

[eots]

how many of those buildings were all steel and had no concrete supporting structure?

NIST avoids a direct answer to that question saying there are many buildings of similar design and there have been similar fires in some of these buildings through out the nation and finds no particular design flaw with wtc 7 and that it is the only steel framed building in history to collapse due to fire

i didnt ask the NIST. i asked YOU.

how many buildings in the video you provided were all steel and had no concrete supporting structure?

if you think it is so relevant when NIST says it is not then you research the answer..

 

[slackjawed]

NIST avoids a direct answer to that question saying there are many buildings of similar design and there have been similar fires in some of these buildings through out the nation and finds no particular design flaw with wtc 7 and that it is the only steel framed building in history to collapse due to fire

i didnt ask the NIST. i asked YOU.

how many buildings in the video you provided were all steel and had no concrete supporting structure?

if you think it is so relevant when NIST says it is not then you research the answer..

Translation;
Provide evidence for my crackpot ideas.

 

[eots]

so you dispute NISTs claim that there are buildings throughout America with very similar design and construction that have suffered very similar fires and have not collapsed and the wtc 7 is the first steel structure hi rise every to collapse from fire ???

 

[RodISHI]

More links at the website I did not link into the quote of the page. It appears that NIST has gone to great lengths to answer questions about building 7. Building 7 housed high-level government offices including the FBI, CIA and the Secret Service.
NIST and the World Trade Center

NIST and the World Trade Center

The final report “Federal Building and Fire Safety Investigation of the World Trade Center Disaster: Final Report of the National Construction Safety Team on the Collapses of the World Trade Center Tower” (NCSTAR 1) and the 42 companion reports. These reports are available on the web site: NIST and the World Trade Center. The collapse of New York City’s World Trade Center structures following the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, was the worst building disaster in recorded history, killing some 2,800 people. More than 350 fire and emergency responders were among those killed, the largest loss of life for this group in a single incident.

In response to the WTC tragedy, the National Institute of Standards and Technology conducted a 3-year building and fire safety investigation to study the factors contributing to the probable cause (or causes) of post-impact collapse of the WTC Towers (WTC 1 and 2) and WTC 7; expanded its research in areas of high-priority need such as prevention of progressive collapse, fire resistance design and retrofit of structures, and fire resistive coatings for structural steel; and is reaching out to the building and fire safety communities to pave the way for timely, expedited considerations of recommendations stemming from the investigation.

Note: Many of the reports and other documents provided are presented in .pdf format. To read these files, you can download the latest version of Adobe Acrobat Reader free. If you have difficulty reading pdf files, you may need to update your version of Acrobat reader to the latest version.

For a printed copy of NIST-NCSTAR 1 (WTC Towers summary report) or NIST-NCSTAR 1A (WTC 7 summary report), contact NIST at [email protected]. Also available are CD sets containing all of the reports.

Key News and Updates

* Federal Register Notice: Freedom of Information Act Requests for Photographs and Videos Collected by the National Institute of Standards and Technology for Its Investigation Into the Failures of the World Trade Center Buildings (08/14/09) -- FOIA Requests (pdf)
* NIST Releases DRAFT "Best Practice Guidelines for Structural Fire Resistance Design of Concrete and Steel Buildings" (NISTIR 7563) For Public Comments (03/04/09)
* NIST Releases Final WTC 7 Investigation Report (11/20/08)
* NIST NCSTAR 1A: Final Report on the Collapse of World Trade Center Building 7
* Questions and Answers about the NIST WTC 7 Investigation (Updated 12/18/08)
* Technical Briefing on the NIST Investigation Into the Collapse of WTC 7 (08/26/08)
* Briefing for the News Media on the NIST Investigation Into the Collapse of WTC 7 (08/21/08)
* Video: The Collapse of World Trade Center 7: Why the Building Fell
* Download High-Res Graphics: Typical WTC 7 Floor Diagram (2 MB) and Thermal Expansion Illustration (29 MB)
* Public Comments on Draft WTC 7 Investigation Report
* Safer Buildings Are Goal of New Code Changes Based on Recommendations from NIST World Trade Center Investigation (10/01/08)
* Detailed WTC 7 Technical Briefing Presentation Slides (11/19/08 revised)
* NIST WTC 7 Investigation Finds Building Fires Caused Collapse (08/21/08)
* Opening Statement Press Briefing, Report on the Collapse of World Trade Center Building 7 (08/21/08)
* NIST Response to the World Trade Center Investigation Disaster Presentation, Dr. S. Shyam Sunder, Director and Lead Investigator, Building and Fire Research Laboratory, NIST

NIST WTC Investigation General Information

* NIST Response to the World Trade Center Disaster (pdf)
* NIST Plan for the Federal Building and Fire Safety Investigation of the World Trade Center Disaster
* NIST's Investigation of the Sept. 11 World Trade Center Disaster FAQs
* NIST's Investigation of the Sept. 11 World Trade Center Disaster FAQs - Supplement Aug. 30, 2006
* NIST Investigation of the World Trade Center Disaster FAQs - Supplement Dec. 14, 2007
* ICC Code Change Proposals

Launch of NIST WTC Investigation - August 2002

* Commerce's NIST Details Federal Investigation of World Trade Center Collapse
* Remarks by Dr. Arden L. Bement, Jr. at NIST WTC News Briefing
* Remarks by Dr. Shyam Sunder at NIST WTC News Briefing
* Highlights of Revisions to WTC Investigation Plan Based on Public Comments

Background on Related NIST Work

* National Construction Safety Team Advisory Committee
* Construction Safety Investigations
* NIST Building Fire and Structural Failure Investigations

Photo Gallery

* World Trade Center Fire Experiment Images
* WTC Fire Experiment Images
* Gallery of Recovered World Trade Center Steel at NIST
* Computer Simulations of World Trade Center
* Metallurgy of World Trade Center Steel
* Microanalysis of Recovered World Trade Center Steel
* Links to Video B-roll and Computer-Simulated Animations for WTC Investigat

 

[eots]

you forgot this one...

“In my opinion, the WTC investigation by NIST falls short of expectations by not definitively finding cause, by not sufficiently linking recommendations of specificity to cause, by not fully invoking all of their authority to seek facts in the investigation, and by the guidance of government lawyers to deter rather than develop fact finding.

OpEdNews - Page 2 of Article: Former Chief of NIST's Fire Science Division Calls for Independent Review of World Trade Center Investigation

 

[Fizz]

so you dispute NISTs claim that there are buildings throughout America with very similar design and construction that have suffered very similar fires and have not collapsed and the wtc 7 is the first steel structure hi rise every to collapse from fire ???

no idea. its your claim. you prove it.

 

[eots]

It is the findings of the nist investigation if you dispute it provide evidence to the contrary

 

[DiveCon]

It is the findings of the nist investigation if you dispute it provide evidence to the contrary

it is not, you are either too stupid to understand what you read, or you are intentionally lying about it

 

[eots]

It is the findings of the nist investigation if you dispute it provide evidence to the contrary

it is not, you are either too stupid to understand what you read, or you are intentionally lying about it

ok then post the information to the contray from an offical source...or stfu

 

[DiveCon]

It is the findings of the nist investigation if you dispute it provide evidence to the contrary

it is not, you are either too stupid to understand what you read, or you are intentionally lying about it

ok then post the information to the contray from an offical source...or stfu

it's already been done, dipshit
so YOU STFU

 

[eots]

it is not, you are either too stupid to understand what you read, or you are intentionally lying about it

ok then post the information to the contray from an offical source...or stfu

it's already been done, dipshit
so YOU STFU

YOU cant do it because ...you are a filthy Little LIAR

 

[DiveCon]

ok then post the information to the contray from an offical source...or stfu

it's already been done, dipshit
so YOU STFU

YOU cant do it because ...you are a filthy Little LIAR

I'm not insane, so why should i do what has already been done just for you to not get it once again
i will instead just call you the fucking moronic dipshit that you are

 

[eots]

you are clearly insane and can not provide any evidence to support your lies so you use your lame excuses

 

[DiveCon]

you are clearly insane and can not provide any evidence to support your lies so you use your lame excuses

^^^more TPP

 

[eots]

you are clearly insane and can not provide any evidence to support your lies so you use your lame excuses

^^^more TPP

more pathetic weak attempts to not support your statement..coward

 

[DiveCon]

you are clearly insane and can not provide any evidence to support your lies so you use your lame excuses

^^^more TPP

more pathetic weak attempts to not support your statement..coward

^^^more TPP

 

[86DuDE]

OK. I'll begin !
You are an architect.
You don't know jack shit about demolition and it's very likely you can't even change the blades on a planer.
STFU
OH !
Have a lovely day !

And what credentials do you have genius? You're GED doesn't count.