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The only response I get. Figures.
The only response I get. Figures.
There seems to be confusion that this bill is nothing more than an amnesty declaration. I challenge anyone to actually read it and then prove on evidence that it is that. I would like evryone to note Title I of this bill pertaining to security.
http://www.shusterman.com/cgi-bin/ex-link.pl?thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c109:S.1033:
It might help if the right Senate bill was there: S1639.
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:S.1639:
Most of the problems came from Section IV, particularly Z visas and the Dream Act.
That wasn't the McCain bill. That one was a Kennedy-Spector bill. I posted the correct bill. Look at the sponsors.
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:SN01639:@@@P
Misdirection deflected.
Rules to be waived for border fence
By EILEEN SULLIVAN, Associated Press Writer 47 minutes ago
The Bush administration plans to use its authority to bypass more than 30 laws and regulations in an effort to finish building 670 miles of fence along the southwest U.S. border by the end of this year, federal officials said Tuesday.
Invoking the two legal waivers which Congress authorized would cut through bureaucratic red tape and sidestep environmental laws that currently stand in the way of the Homeland Security Department building 267 miles of fencing in California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas, according to officials familiar with the plan. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because the waivers had not yet been announced.
The move would be the biggest use of legal waivers since the administration started building the fence, and it would cover a total of 470 miles along the Southwest border. Previously, the department has used its waiver authority for two portions of fence in Arizona and one portion in San Diego.
As of March 17, there were 309 miles of fencing in place, leaving 361 to be completed by the end of the year to meet the department's goal. Of those, 267 miles are being held up by federal, state and local laws and regulations, the officials said.
One waiver would address the construction of a 22-mile levee barrier in Hidalgo County, Texas. The other waiver would cover 30 miles of fencing and technology deployment on environmentally sensitive ground in San Diego, southern Arizona and the Rio Grande; and 215 miles in California, Arizona and Texas that face other legal impediments due to administrative processes. For instance, building in some areas requires assessments and studies that if conducted could not be completed in time to finish the fence by the end of the year.
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The second was in response to the first, after IT failed. Then the second, it too failed. McCain was side by side with Kennedy, pushing the Kennedy bill, including Z visas. He kept pushing until he realized that he, 'had to learn that lesson.' I don't buy it. He's better than either Democrat so I'll probably vote for him, but on immigration they are all the same.
Yet his name is nowhere to be found on the bill. Just because you said it, doesn't make it true.
Wow, great response.
There seems to be confusion that this bill is nothing more than an amnesty declaration. I challenge anyone to actually read it and then prove on evidence that it is that. I would like evryone to note Title I of this bill pertaining to security.
http://www.shusterman.com/cgi-bin/ex-link.pl?thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c109:S.1033:
Too many people looked at the broken promises to secure the border as we grant citizenship to some illegals. Think of the Reagan Amnesty Plan. I personally didn't think the bill was that bad (and I am an immigration conservative), but I do think any bill must start with a comprehensive closure of the border starting with a fence, harsh, swift and enforable punishment of employers and landlords and then move toward possible amnesty.
I'm sorry, I won't be bothering you again.
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McCain/Kennedy has two purposes, neither of which is to strengthen the borders or enhance the security of the United States. Instead, it first is intended to garner the gratitude of invading hordes of illegal aliens, thus guaranteeing their loyalty and servitude to Washington in perpetuity. Secondly, it is structured in such a manner as to hopefully allow supporting Senators from both parties to camouflage this latest abdication of their Constitutional duty under the auspices of "reform."
John McCain, Ted Kennedy, and Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania, the bill's loudest advocates, are busily traversing the TV roundtable and morning news program circuit in an aggressive effort to make their case "airtight." Yet even a cursory analysis of their words reveals their bill as a dangerous step in entirely the wrong direction.
Consider their monotonously repeated mantra that this bill is "not amnesty." In justification, they explain that illegals will ostensibly be required to pay a thousand dollar fine. Yet even a single visit to the emergency room can cost much more than that. So in truth, the "fine" represents the shallowest example of symbolism.
Secondly, they insist that the illegals presently in the country will be sent to the "back of the line" in their efforts to attain citizenship. But what does this really mean? Clearly, the illegals would have no less freedom to move about and conduct their lives than they presently possess. Tell that to the poor refugee languishing at the "front" of the line in some third-world country, waiting for entry into the United States.
Nor would their status as "non-citizens" prevent them from participation in the political process. The massive demonstrations of the last few weeks, and the intimidating effect they clearly had on the Senate, inarguably prove as much.
Like campaign finance "reform" legislation, which McCain ramrodded through the Congress in perhaps his most famous crusade, immigration "reform" does not address any aspect of the current crisis in a manner that would alleviate the concerns of average citizens who see their country being stolen from them. Rather, it gives Washington insiders an opportunity to appear engaged and responsive, while guaranteeing that absolutely nothing of substance is accomplished.
You are like a child who can't stand it when proved wrong.
Kennedy, McCain try again on immigration
Bill would keep fence, but ease way to citizenship
By Rick Klein, Globe Staff | February 28, 2007
WASHINGTON -- Senators Edward M. Kennedy and John McCain are set to introduce a revised version of their sweeping plan to overhaul the nation's immigration laws, in a bill that's likely to restart a tense debate in Congress.
The measure, which is being drafted in consultation with the White House, will largely mirror the immigration bill that stalled last year, according to lawmakers and aides involved in the process. That measure was blocked primarily because House Republican leaders were adamantly opposed to provisions that would have allowed undocumented immigrants to become US citizens.
Though negotiations are still ongoing, this year's bill will most likely leave in place the 700-mile border fence, the creation of which was signed into law last year. It would also double the size of the US Border Patrol and add new means to crack down on employers who hire undocumented immigrants, a further attempt to assuage concerns about the nation's porous borders.
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I think immigration is the most grossly overblown issue in the history of American Politics. It primarily affects states near the Mexican border, yet in my state of Missouri, our moron Gov. Matt Blunt-Trauma feels the need to "crack down" on "illegal immigrants". It's just not as big of a deal as the far right would have us believe. Of course, the primary exploiters of illegals are the corporations that fund right-wing campaigns.
An example of the real victims of these "crack-downs" - children who were brought here illegally by their parents, who have spent nearly their entire lives here, who are here through absolutely no fault of their own, are also send back "home". What good does this do?
