For All Their Gun Laws -

[Brain357]

Our homicide rates are 4-5x higher than countries with strong gun control. Law enforcement is shot at an alarming rate.

there are 790000 full time cops in the country and last year 52 were killed in firearm related events

That's .0065% of cops that were killed in a firearm related event

That is hardly "alarming"

In this century, 25 U.K. officers died in the line of duty. The figure for the U.S.—2,445—is nearly 100 times that. Adjusting for numbers of officers, U.S. deaths are still 10 times higher.

https://psmag.com/news/cops-killing-and-being-killed

What are the percentages as compared to the total number of cops?

Now this is where you get disingenuous because not all line of duty deaths are gun related

Out of the 144 cops killed in the line of duty in 2018 only 52 were firearms related

For the same link:
But more civilians with guns, more cops getting killed. Since 2000, six U.K. cops have died from gunshots; in the U.S., 788. We have 11 times as many cops, but 130 times as many killed by guns. (The other two leading causes of police deaths are heart attacks and car accidents.)

Again

.0065% of US cops were killed in firearm related deaths in 2018

That is a ridiculously small percentage.

Like I said we have a criminal problem not a gun problem

.0027% of guns are used to commit murder

You have a 99.997% chance of not getting murdered by a person with a gun

If you're scared of getting murdered with a gun you have bigger problems

And the rate is many times higher than it should be.

 

[Brain357]

Yes law enforcement is rarely shot in those countries. They also have homicide rates a fraction of ours making it far less likely you will be a victim.

I just proved that you are wrong, and you continue to deny the FACTS, with your "truth". Are you Joe "the groper" Biden?

You didn’t prove anything. I was discussing law enforcement being shot. You went to mass shootings? When was the last mass shooting in the U.K.? France?

Shall we discuss homicide rates if I am wrong?

Why are you so concerned with mass shootings?
The amount of people killed in mass shootings is miniscule.

Do you just like being caught up in the drama?

Our homicide rates are 4-5x higher than countries with strong gun control. Law enforcement is shot at an alarming rate.

Maybe you ghouls should stop letting violent criminals loose?

We have the highest incarceration rate in the world.

 

[miketx]

there are 790000 full time cops in the country and last year 52 were killed in firearm related events

That's .0065% of cops that were killed in a firearm related event

That is hardly "alarming"

In this century, 25 U.K. officers died in the line of duty. The figure for the U.S.—2,445—is nearly 100 times that. Adjusting for numbers of officers, U.S. deaths are still 10 times higher.

https://psmag.com/news/cops-killing-and-being-killed

What are the percentages as compared to the total number of cops?

Now this is where you get disingenuous because not all line of duty deaths are gun related

Out of the 144 cops killed in the line of duty in 2018 only 52 were firearms related

For the same link:
But more civilians with guns, more cops getting killed. Since 2000, six U.K. cops have died from gunshots; in the U.S., 788. We have 11 times as many cops, but 130 times as many killed by guns. (The other two leading causes of police deaths are heart attacks and car accidents.)

Again

.0065% of US cops were killed in firearm related deaths in 2018

That is a ridiculously small percentage.

Like I said we have a criminal problem not a gun problem

.0027% of guns are used to commit murder

You have a 99.997% chance of not getting murdered by a person with a gun

If you're scared of getting murdered with a gun you have bigger problems

And the rate is many times higher than it should be.

That's right! If you filthy scum would stop letting violent criminals go free that would change.

 

[miketx]

I just proved that you are wrong, and you continue to deny the FACTS, with your "truth". Are you Joe "the groper" Biden?

You didn’t prove anything. I was discussing law enforcement being shot. You went to mass shootings? When was the last mass shooting in the U.K.? France?

Shall we discuss homicide rates if I am wrong?

Why are you so concerned with mass shootings?
The amount of people killed in mass shootings is miniscule.

Do you just like being caught up in the drama?

Our homicide rates are 4-5x higher than countries with strong gun control. Law enforcement is shot at an alarming rate.

Maybe you ghouls should stop letting violent criminals loose?

We have the highest incarceration rate in the world.

Start executing them.

 

[Brain357]

In this century, 25 U.K. officers died in the line of duty. The figure for the U.S.—2,445—is nearly 100 times that. Adjusting for numbers of officers, U.S. deaths are still 10 times higher.

https://psmag.com/news/cops-killing-and-being-killed

What are the percentages as compared to the total number of cops?

Now this is where you get disingenuous because not all line of duty deaths are gun related

Out of the 144 cops killed in the line of duty in 2018 only 52 were firearms related

For the same link:
But more civilians with guns, more cops getting killed. Since 2000, six U.K. cops have died from gunshots; in the U.S., 788. We have 11 times as many cops, but 130 times as many killed by guns. (The other two leading causes of police deaths are heart attacks and car accidents.)

Again

.0065% of US cops were killed in firearm related deaths in 2018

That is a ridiculously small percentage.

Like I said we have a criminal problem not a gun problem

.0027% of guns are used to commit murder

You have a 99.997% chance of not getting murdered by a person with a gun

If you're scared of getting murdered with a gun you have bigger problems

And the rate is many times higher than it should be.

That's right! If you filthy scum would stop letting violent criminals go free that would change.

We have the highest incarceration rate in the world.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

We instituted speed limits, but there are still fatal highway crashes. Are speed limits ineffective? Redundant? Useless?

We instituted laws against bank fraud, yet New York real estate developers and reality TV game show hosts routinely violate bank fraud regulations. Are bank fraud laws ineffective? Redundant? Useless?

A law will never stop crime. Never have, never will. But does that mean laws are ineffective? Redundant? Useless?

Are laws panacea that cover a problem like a blanket?

There are no perfect laws. But there are good laws.

Germany has less accidents and they have the autobahn

Link?

Here's an old one, just doing a quick Democra...errrr....Google search.

Germany's Fatal Accident Rate is Less Than Half of Ours Despite Driving at 155 MPH

I will note that Germany requires a lot more out of its drivers in order to get a license. They have a lot more training that we do, and the written test is apparently pretty difficult.

 

[Brain357]

You didn’t prove anything. I was discussing law enforcement being shot. You went to mass shootings? When was the last mass shooting in the U.K.? France?

Shall we discuss homicide rates if I am wrong?

Why are you so concerned with mass shootings?
The amount of people killed in mass shootings is miniscule.

Do you just like being caught up in the drama?

Our homicide rates are 4-5x higher than countries with strong gun control. Law enforcement is shot at an alarming rate.

Maybe you ghouls should stop letting violent criminals loose?

We have the highest incarceration rate in the world.

Start executing them.

You haven’t come close to an intelligent thought yet. Bravo.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

What are the percentages as compared to the total number of cops?

Now this is where you get disingenuous because not all line of duty deaths are gun related

Out of the 144 cops killed in the line of duty in 2018 only 52 were firearms related

For the same link:
But more civilians with guns, more cops getting killed. Since 2000, six U.K. cops have died from gunshots; in the U.S., 788. We have 11 times as many cops, but 130 times as many killed by guns. (The other two leading causes of police deaths are heart attacks and car accidents.)

Again

.0065% of US cops were killed in firearm related deaths in 2018

That is a ridiculously small percentage.

Like I said we have a criminal problem not a gun problem

.0027% of guns are used to commit murder

You have a 99.997% chance of not getting murdered by a person with a gun

If you're scared of getting murdered with a gun you have bigger problems

And the rate is many times higher than it should be.

That's right! If you filthy scum would stop letting violent criminals go free that would change.

We have the highest incarceration rate in the world.

You can thank privatized prison system and the illegal war on drugs for that.

Eliminate non-violent offenders and it's pretty comparable.

.

 

[Brain357]

For the same link:
But more civilians with guns, more cops getting killed. Since 2000, six U.K. cops have died from gunshots; in the U.S., 788. We have 11 times as many cops, but 130 times as many killed by guns. (The other two leading causes of police deaths are heart attacks and car accidents.)

Again

.0065% of US cops were killed in firearm related deaths in 2018

That is a ridiculously small percentage.

Like I said we have a criminal problem not a gun problem

.0027% of guns are used to commit murder

You have a 99.997% chance of not getting murdered by a person with a gun

If you're scared of getting murdered with a gun you have bigger problems

And the rate is many times higher than it should be.

That's right! If you filthy scum would stop letting violent criminals go free that would change.

We have the highest incarceration rate in the world.

You can thank privatized prison system and the illegal war on drugs for that.

Eliminate non-violent offenders and it's pretty comparable.

.

Please share the numbers then.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

We instituted speed limits, but there are still fatal highway crashes. Are speed limits ineffective? Redundant? Useless?

We instituted laws against bank fraud, yet New York real estate developers and reality TV game show hosts routinely violate bank fraud regulations. Are bank fraud laws ineffective? Redundant? Useless?

A law will never stop crime. Never have, never will. But does that mean laws are ineffective? Redundant? Useless?

Are laws panacea that cover a problem like a blanket?

There are no perfect laws. But there are good laws.

And then there are laws with so many loop holes (like the gun laws) that they are rendered useless.

Like what?

Most of the alleged "loop holes" are factually retarded and highly unlikely. But, tell me which loopholes need to be closed.

The "gun show" loophole is such a non-factor, the fact that gun-grabbers are pushing it reveals multiple levels of bad faith.

.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Again

.0065% of US cops were killed in firearm related deaths in 2018

That is a ridiculously small percentage.

Like I said we have a criminal problem not a gun problem

.0027% of guns are used to commit murder

You have a 99.997% chance of not getting murdered by a person with a gun

If you're scared of getting murdered with a gun you have bigger problems

And the rate is many times higher than it should be.

That's right! If you filthy scum would stop letting violent criminals go free that would change.

We have the highest incarceration rate in the world.

You can thank privatized prison system and the illegal war on drugs for that.

Eliminate non-violent offenders and it's pretty comparable.

.

Please share the numbers then.

Here:
Mass Incarceration: The Whole Pie 2019

Knock yourself out.

.

 

[Brain357]

And the rate is many times higher than it should be.

That's right! If you filthy scum would stop letting violent criminals go free that would change.

We have the highest incarceration rate in the world.

You can thank privatized prison system and the illegal war on drugs for that.

Eliminate non-violent offenders and it's pretty comparable.

.

Please share the numbers then.

Here:
Mass Incarceration: The Whole Pie 2019

Knock yourself out.

.

Now show me that other countries don’t do the same thing.

 

[Brain357]

And the rate is many times higher than it should be.

That's right! If you filthy scum would stop letting violent criminals go free that would change.

We have the highest incarceration rate in the world.

You can thank privatized prison system and the illegal war on drugs for that.

Eliminate non-violent offenders and it's pretty comparable.

.

Please share the numbers then.

Here:
Mass Incarceration: The Whole Pie 2019

Knock yourself out.

.

You read your own link?

But at the state and local levels, far more people are locked up for violent and property offenses than for drug offenses alone.

 

[Weatherman2020]

They don’t have walls. Easy to drive across the border with guns from another state. Sad how often law enforcement is shot here. This is very rare in countries with strong gun control.

Why are Democrats so violent?

 

[Brain357]

For the same link:
But more civilians with guns, more cops getting killed. Since 2000, six U.K. cops have died from gunshots; in the U.S., 788. We have 11 times as many cops, but 130 times as many killed by guns. (The other two leading causes of police deaths are heart attacks and car accidents.)

Again

.0065% of US cops were killed in firearm related deaths in 2018

That is a ridiculously small percentage.

Like I said we have a criminal problem not a gun problem

.0027% of guns are used to commit murder

You have a 99.997% chance of not getting murdered by a person with a gun

If you're scared of getting murdered with a gun you have bigger problems

And the rate is many times higher than it should be.

That's right! If you filthy scum would stop letting violent criminals go free that would change.

We have the highest incarceration rate in the world.

You can thank privatized prison system and the illegal war on drugs for that.

Eliminate non-violent offenders and it's pretty comparable.

.

More from your link:
The second myth: Private prisons are the corrupt heart of mass incarceration
In fact, less than 8% of all incarcerated people are held in private prisons; the vast majority are in publicly-owned prisons and jails.

 

[miketx]

That's right! If you filthy scum would stop letting violent criminals go free that would change.

We have the highest incarceration rate in the world.

You can thank privatized prison system and the illegal war on drugs for that.

Eliminate non-violent offenders and it's pretty comparable.

.

Please share the numbers then.

Here:
Mass Incarceration: The Whole Pie 2019

Knock yourself out.

.

You read your own link?

But at the state and local levels, far more people are locked up for violent and property offenses than for drug offenses alone.

Why does your kind keep releasing them?

 

[Brain357]

We have the highest incarceration rate in the world.

You can thank privatized prison system and the illegal war on drugs for that.

Eliminate non-violent offenders and it's pretty comparable.

.

Please share the numbers then.

Here:
Mass Incarceration: The Whole Pie 2019

Knock yourself out.

.

You read your own link?

But at the state and local levels, far more people are locked up for violent and property offenses than for drug offenses alone.

Why does your kind keep releasing them?

You really are that dumb?

Trump releasing them.

Exclusive: Violent criminals and sex offenders released early due to 'First Step Act' legislation

 

[miketx]

You can thank privatized prison system and the illegal war on drugs for that.

Eliminate non-violent offenders and it's pretty comparable.

.

Please share the numbers then.

Here:
Mass Incarceration: The Whole Pie 2019

Knock yourself out.

.

You read your own link?

But at the state and local levels, far more people are locked up for violent and property offenses than for drug offenses alone.

Why does your kind keep releasing them?

You really are that dumb?

Trump releasing them.

Exclusive: Violent criminals and sex offenders released early due to 'First Step Act' legislation

Sez the lying pos that thinks releasing violent scum is funny.

 

[badger2]

Though #3's discourse is why there are threads entitled "Militarism is at the Heart of Gun Violence." Police are symbols of the superego, therefore we are totally not surprised at the god-and-satan scenario.

 

[TNHarley]

We instituted speed limits, but there are still fatal highway crashes. Are speed limits ineffective? Redundant? Useless?

We instituted laws against bank fraud, yet New York real estate developers and reality TV game show hosts routinely violate bank fraud regulations. Are bank fraud laws ineffective? Redundant? Useless?

A law will never stop crime. Never have, never will. But does that mean laws are ineffective? Redundant? Useless?

Are laws panacea that cover a problem like a blanket?

There are no perfect laws. But there are good laws.

Germany has less accidents and they have the autobahn

Link?

List of countries by traffic-related death rate - Wikipedia
It's one third of ours per 100k people
8 reasons that Germany’s Autobahn is so much better than US highways