For all the negative things one might think about Trump....

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    ....I'm of the mind that the one thing that's wrong with the man is not actually something that's wrong with him, but rather a wrong fit. I think is, at the end of the day, just a regular person and being so is for regular people with regular lives and, more importantly, regular jobs.

    Trump's life and lifestyle is quite rarefied. I think he's convinced himself that his exceptional life, particularly his wealth, has convinced him that he's an exceptional individual. Great wealth, quite simply, is not a proxy for great facility at managing one's way through and being excellent at everything, by which I mean a POTUS has to handle everything with aplomb whereas becoming wealthy requires one to be "ingenious" or nearly so at just a few things.

    I think he just isn't outstanding at everything, or even most things, which is fine for most people, and but for the fact that he's president and, it'd be fine for Trump. The scrutiny of the presidency is unmatched by any other role, making it a terrible job for thin skinned people. The issues and interactions one must navigate are complex, making it the wrong job for people who aren't given to developing deep understandings of things. The decisions one makes cost lives and have impacts well beyond one's tenure in office, making it very difficult for people with any sort of conscience, no matter how minimal. The nature of job's scope requires one to rely heavily on others, something that's difficult for anyone who's to some extent a self-made individual. POTUS is not an all powerful position; making it the wrong role for people who are accustomed to authoritarian ways of getting things done.

    Trump is POTUS, but it's clear that he should not be POTUS. It's just the wrong job for him. That's something lots of people discover after having taken a job for whatever reason they took it. The problem is that Trump can't as easily as regular people walk away from a job that's a bad fit for them.
     
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    That is your opinion. There is no one that is more jaded about the political system than me. Presidents have been selected instead of elected and for the first time since JFK, America might just have a chance at turning this thing around and it's in worse shape than you could ever imagine. You are totally stuck in this "left versus right" paradigm and you actually believe that there is a difference between the two parties at the top and you couldn't be more wrong. Those of them that can't be bought, are compromised in order to keep this debt slavery system in place while our labor and sweat equity is borrowed against to the Fed bank owned mostly by foreigners.

    Until Trump gives me a reason to throw him under the bus and lump him in as another puppet of the shadow government that he appears to be fighting? I am going to support his efforts the best I can. Trump on his worst day is better than the last six CEOs of USA.INC.
     
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    Trump has the basic leadership skills of a chihuahua puppy.

    He is a rich man that started off rich and thanks to some rich and powerful friends and allies has managed to stay rich despite his best efforts to blow it.

    His company didn't actually start thriving till he stopped making business decisions after the last bankruptcy. Trump is a showman and that is what he excels at, as long as he does not have to make any actual decisions.

    This is why Trump is the wrong man for the job, we need an actual leader and we have not had one for at least 17 years. And we still do not.
     
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    So far tRump has done so many things that are harmful to America in his first 6 months he should not get any more time to totally de3stroy us.
     
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    We have had so many bad men become POTUS. Trump is no different. Our system is not working and needs changing.

    That said, we can all agree that Hillary would have been worse. That is not saying much, since both he and her are two of the worst people in the country.

    A great man said the worst among us become politicians. So true.
     
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    Name them.......and be precise......the fact that he isn't a commie sack of shit isn't an example.
     
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    And here is my opinion:

    Waiting for the chance to contribute to his re-election campaign.
     
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    What are you waiting for? He's already announced his candidacy for POTUS in 2020 and he's got a campaign organization in place.
     
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    Yes, Trump is just a symptom of a bad system that isn't working.
     
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    Right now, insofar as he's POTUS and he's got not one major legislative accomplishment under his belt, he's far more than a symptom. He's now an exacerbating part of the problem not part of the solution. That said, it remains to be see whether, upon getting any major legislative agenda item passed, any such policy enacted will make things better, worse or effect no positive change.
     

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