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    If the Pentagon doesn’t get its Joint Strike Fighter just right, the U.S. military is screwed. Which is why its a such serious, serious problem this stealthy, all-purpose jet has had such a “troubling performance record,” according to Defense Secretary Robert Gates. Things have gone so wrong that Gates just announced he’s sacking the head of the star-crossed, nearly $350 billion program and is withholding hundreds of millions of dollars in performance fees to JSF-maker Lockheed Martin. “When things go wrong, people will be held accountable,” Gates told reporters.

    The Air Force, the Marines, and the Navy are all counting on the stealthy F-35 Joint Strike Fighter to serve as its aircraft of the future, replacing everything from the A-10 to the F-16 to the F/A-18. It’s meant to knock out the most advanced missile sites, spot the most elusive terrorists, and win dogfights with the most sophisticated jets from Russia or China — all at a fraction of the price of the much-ballyhooed F-22 Raptor. Gates calls it the “backbone” of “American air superiority.” Without the promise of the JSF, Gates would’ve never convinced Congress to stop production of the Raptor, the Air Force’s most advanced dogfighter. By the time the program ends, there are supposed to be more than 2,400 of the planes in the American inventory, flying off of aircraft carriers, taking off from a conventional runway, or zipping straight up into the sky.


    Gates Sacks Stealth Jet Chief, Blasts ‘Troubling Record’ of Crucial Plane | Danger Room | Wired.com


    This aircraft that the DoD has placed all it's eggs in one basket over in terms of costs and performance is perhaps the biggest money pit ever to come to pass in DoD purchasing. The F-35 in terms of performace is average when compared to current 4th generation jets and it's appeal was that it would be a common platform for all services and save money in terms of parts and maintenance. There are several options that the DoD has at it's disposal in order to meet the needs of the warfighter than FAR exceed the performace of this waste of money and does so at a lower cost and better performance. Many people wonder how the Govt. gets itself into debt and then turns around and tells departments like NASA that funding a moon program will be too costly. Then you have to look no further than the F-35.
     
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    It took 20 years before the Osprey was flying, they won't give up on the JSF anytime soon.
     
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    No they won't it's full steam ahead on the F-35 regardless of it's issues which are many. The facts are this is an average aircraft at best with the possible exception of the F-35B STOVL version which is intended to replace the AV-8B which is mission specific. Expending the money that DoD wants on an average aircraft with high operational costs that is an average performer has little to do with giving the Warfighter the best bang for the buck. So would say that the V-22 was a and is a stellar example of a good program? I sure wouldn't, in fact the number of aircraft that could have been delivered to the warfighter in those 20 years like "blackhawks, CH-47's, and others" vs. what was expended on the V-22 would have more than enhanced the ability of the Military.
     
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    Ohh well we still have the best junk in the world.
     
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    F-15 Silent Eagle

    Depending on the specific mission, the customer can use the CFTs that are designed for internal carriage or change back to the traditional CFTs for optimum fuel capacity and external weapons carriage. The Silent Eagle will be able to internally carry air-to-air missiles such as the AIM-9 and AIM-120 and air-to-ground weapons such as the Joint Direct Attack Munition (JDAM) and Small Diameter Bomb (SDB). The standard weapons load used on current versions of the F-15 is available with the traditional CFTs installed.

    The aircraft's canted vertical tails improve aerodynamic efficiency, provide lift, and reduce airframe weight. Another aerodynamic improvement is the Digital Flight Control System, which improves the aircraft's reliability and reduces airframe weight.

    Survivability improvements include a BAES Digital Electronic Warfare System (DEWS) working in concert with the Raytheon Advanced Electronic Scanning Array (AESA) radar.
    Boeing: Boeing Unveils New International F-15 Configuration -- the F-15SE

    F-16IN

    The F-16IN Super Viper is a unique new fighter sharing a heritage with the world's only fifth generation fighters – the F-35 Lightning II Joint Strike Fighter and the F-22 Raptor. Evolutionary integration of fifth generation technologies makes the F-16IN the most advanced fourth generation fighter in the world today.

    This ultimate fourth generation fighter is tailored exclusively to meet or exceed all of India’s Medium Multi Role Combat Aircraft (MMRCA) requirements. The F-16IN is the right choice for the Indian Air Force (IAF) and is ready for integration into India’s infrastructure and operations now.
    F-16IN Super Viper | Lockheed Martin

    Eurofighter

    The four-nation Eurofighter Typhoon is a foreplane delta-wing, beyond-visual-range, close air fighter aircraft with surface attack capability. Eurofighter has 'supercruise' capability: it can fly at sustained speeds of over Mach 1 without the use of afterburner.

    Development of the aircraft has been carried out by Eurofighter GmbH, based in Munich and wholly owned by BAE Systems of the UK, Alenia Aeronautica of Italy and the EADS
    Eurofighter Typhoon Multirole Combat Fighter - Air Force Technology



    Okay sure...
     

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