Flyer reveals Barack Obama headlined socialist event in 1996

[Dr.Drock]

No I don't. Tell me what your solution is that doesn't involve government. Ya know...like I asked above already that you ignored.



So we're back to square one and the fact that you don't have all (or much of any) of the answers or a plan. You don't know what would happen to seniors or the poor under your "plan" or countless other scenarios that you just have no answer for.

Let me know when you're ready to be an adult and discuss the very real situation that you want to pretend that doesn't exist and think will somehow be solved by fairy dust and talking points.

Let the private industry handle private insurance, that's all that needs said.

Private companies, private charities, civilians, not gov't.

So how will seniors and the poor, never mind a struggling middle class be able to afford and purchase this private insurance?

Get gov't out, increases competition, plummets costs, which Obamacare (as you admit) does the exact opposite.

 

[RDD_1210]

Let the private industry handle private insurance, that's all that needs said.

Private companies, private charities, civilians, not gov't.

So how will seniors and the poor, never mind a struggling middle class be able to afford and purchase this private insurance?

Get gov't out, increases competition, plummets costs, which Obamacare (as you admit) does the exact opposite.

I love that your plan, costs will magically drop if "government wasn't involved" because all of a sudden there will be all these new players in the market that will instantly drop the price of insurance to levels that will be affordable by EVERYONE.

Holy fuck, I thought you were uniformed before..now I realize it's even more. You don't want to understand the situation, you just want to complain. You're literally no different than any of the other half-wits on this site who don't know how to use their brain.

And I never said it increases costs, I said it does little to decrease costs, but if twisting my words is what you need to resort to now then I'll take it as you've had enough....again.

Again, you've shown yourself to be tremendously clueless about this issue and even worse this time, you don't care. You're totally content being ignorant.

 

[Dr.Drock]

So how will seniors and the poor, never mind a struggling middle class be able to afford and purchase this private insurance?

Get gov't out, increases competition, plummets costs, which Obamacare (as you admit) does the exact opposite.

I love that your plan, costs will magically drop if "government wasn't involved" because all of a sudden there will be all these new players in the market that will instantly drop the price of insurance to levels that will be affordable by EVERYONE.

Holy fuck, I thought you were uniformed before..now I realize it's even more. You don't want to understand the situation, you just want to complain. You're literally no different than any of the other half-wits on this site who don't know how to use their brain.

And I never said it increases costs, I said it does little to decrease costs, but if twisting my words is what you need to resort to now then I'll take it as you've had enough....again.

Again, you've shown yourself to be tremendously clueless about this issue and even worse this time, you don't care. You're totally content being ignorant.

Ok, you said it wouldn't decrease costs, and I provided proof that it increases costs. Either way the end result is more gov't involvement would bring higher costs.

You're pretending to be enlightened and all knowing on the subject, and while you demand answers out of me you give none yourself.

"We should pass Obamacare!!!"

Well what about these enormous flaws, here's links to back the flaws that show it to make things even worse.

"So what! Who cares! Me smart! You stupid! I care! You don't care!"

 

[RDD_1210]

Get gov't out, increases competition, plummets costs, which Obamacare (as you admit) does the exact opposite.

I love that your plan, costs will magically drop if "government wasn't involved" because all of a sudden there will be all these new players in the market that will instantly drop the price of insurance to levels that will be affordable by EVERYONE.

Holy fuck, I thought you were uniformed before..now I realize it's even more. You don't want to understand the situation, you just want to complain. You're literally no different than any of the other half-wits on this site who don't know how to use their brain.

And I never said it increases costs, I said it does little to decrease costs, but if twisting my words is what you need to resort to now then I'll take it as you've had enough....again.

Again, you've shown yourself to be tremendously clueless about this issue and even worse this time, you don't care. You're totally content being ignorant.

Ok, you said it wouldn't decrease costs, and I provided proof that it increases costs. Either way the end result is more gov't involvement would bring higher costs.

You're pretending to be enlightened and all knowing on the subject, and while you demand answers out of me you give none yourself.

"We should pass Obamacare!!!"

Well what about these enormous flaws, here's links to back the flaws that show it to make things even worse.

"So what! Who cares! Me smart! You stupid! I care! You don't care!"

So to top it off you either have extremely selective memory or you're a liar. Which is it?

Because I have stated multiple times alternate solutions I'd like to see. Like most of the other points I bring up that you have no answer for, you ignore them when I mention them and then pretend later that I never said them.

If I knew that you were going to be a disingenuous asshole from the beginning I wouldn't have wasted my time *trying* to have a discussion with someone who I thought was capable. Well at least I know for next time that you have no intentions of being sincere or trying to discuss something like an adult.

 

[Dr.Drock]

I love that your plan, costs will magically drop if "government wasn't involved" because all of a sudden there will be all these new players in the market that will instantly drop the price of insurance to levels that will be affordable by EVERYONE.

Holy fuck, I thought you were uniformed before..now I realize it's even more. You don't want to understand the situation, you just want to complain. You're literally no different than any of the other half-wits on this site who don't know how to use their brain.

And I never said it increases costs, I said it does little to decrease costs, but if twisting my words is what you need to resort to now then I'll take it as you've had enough....again.

Again, you've shown yourself to be tremendously clueless about this issue and even worse this time, you don't care. You're totally content being ignorant.

Ok, you said it wouldn't decrease costs, and I provided proof that it increases costs. Either way the end result is more gov't involvement would bring higher costs.

You're pretending to be enlightened and all knowing on the subject, and while you demand answers out of me you give none yourself.

"We should pass Obamacare!!!"

Well what about these enormous flaws, here's links to back the flaws that show it to make things even worse.

"So what! Who cares! Me smart! You stupid! I care! You don't care!"

So to top it off you either have extremely selective memory or you're a liar. Which is it?

Because I have stated multiple times alternate solutions I'd like to see. Like most of the other points I bring up that you have no answer for, you ignore them when I mention them and then pretend later that I never said them.

If I knew that you were going to be a disingenuous asshole from the beginning I wouldn't have wasted my time *trying* to have a discussion with someone who I thought was capable. Well at least I know for next time that you have no intentions of being sincere or trying to discuss something like an adult.

You said single payer once and didn't delve into it any further and certainly with no links to back it up. At least in our personal discussions.

I gave you a nice safety net of 5 sarcastic comments/childish responses before I gave in to the type of discussion you want to have. You cannot claim the "grown up discussion highground" as you pretend you can.

If you think more gov't is the only "grown up" solution, then I'd advise you no longer try to have the healthcare discussion with anyone who isn't an Obamabot. Just my personal, grown up advice for you.

 

[RDD_1210]

Ok, you said it wouldn't decrease costs, and I provided proof that it increases costs. Either way the end result is more gov't involvement would bring higher costs.

You're pretending to be enlightened and all knowing on the subject, and while you demand answers out of me you give none yourself.

"We should pass Obamacare!!!"

Well what about these enormous flaws, here's links to back the flaws that show it to make things even worse.

"So what! Who cares! Me smart! You stupid! I care! You don't care!"

So to top it off you either have extremely selective memory or you're a liar. Which is it?

Because I have stated multiple times alternate solutions I'd like to see. Like most of the other points I bring up that you have no answer for, you ignore them when I mention them and then pretend later that I never said them.

If I knew that you were going to be a disingenuous asshole from the beginning I wouldn't have wasted my time *trying* to have a discussion with someone who I thought was capable. Well at least I know for next time that you have no intentions of being sincere or trying to discuss something like an adult.

You said single payer once and didn't delve into it any further and certainly with no links to back it up. At least in our personal discussions.

I gave you a nice safety net of 5 sarcastic comments/childish responses before I gave in to the type of discussion you want to have. You cannot claim the "grown up discussion highground" as you pretend you can.

If you think more gov't is the only "grown up" solution, then I'd advise you no longer try to have the healthcare discussion with anyone who isn't an Obamabot. Just my personal, grown up advice for you.

Everytime you post now it reminds me that you don't know how to use your brain for critical thought. That makes me sad.