Florist Sued for Refusing Service to Gay Couple Pens Defiant Letter Rejecting Gov’t Settlement Offer

[Syriusly]

Oh please.

The homo brigade is so incredibly stupid, they think they will win this battle.

They won't. They are a TINY minority...and the VAST majority of Americans has absolutely ZERO desire to accommodate their increasingly oppressive demands.

'oppressive demands' as in asking that the law be followed......

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Such is the nature of Relativism... and it is dangerous to nothing short of the viability of the culture:

Relativism is the doctrine which holds that knowledge, truth, and morality exist only in relation to one's cultural, societal, historical and personal context, and, as such can never be the result of soundly reasoned absolutes.

It is through this, perversion of reason, wherein relativism axiomatically rejects the objectivity that is essential to truth.

And with truth being essential to trust and, both of those being critical to the establishment of a soundly reasoned morality, and because a soundly reasoned morality is essential to Justice... it becomes clear to reasonable people, that Relativism can never serve justice.

And here's how it works and why it is that SUCH a dangerous expression of the Foreign Ideas Hostile to American Principle:

Congress shall make no law ... prohibiting the free exercise [of religion]; or abridging the freedom of speech...

How does the Relativism 'interpret' THAT?

Benton County Superior Court Judge Alex Ekstrom rejected arguments from the owner of Arlene's Flowers in Richland that her actions were protected by her religious freedom. He said that while religious beliefs are protected by the First Amendment, actions based on those beliefs aren't necessarily. Courts have long held that lawmakers can prohibit discriminatory conduct, and the judge said florist Barronelle Stutzman broke the law when she refused to sell flowers for a same-sex wedding in 2013.

Joe. My. God. WASHINGTON Anti-Gay Florist Found Guilty In Public Accommodations Case

See how that works?

 

[ogibillm]

I cant believe they offered a settlement for the bigots doing something against the law.

i believe it's a civil offense, not criminal.

Since they are the ones that committed the offense why are they being offered compensation?

who is the 'they' in that sentence?

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Being discriminatory against gay people is about as relativist as it gets.

Discrimination is an essential element of survival and humanity cannot be sustained without it... as no individual can be sustained without it and no nation can be sustained without it.

But! HOW cool is it, that YOU a Relativist, is advocating for humanity to suspend essential elements, CRITICAL to its SURVIVAL?

(The Reader will recognize that such an advocacy can only be a function of EVIL!)

 

[Iceweasel]

Segregationists and slave owners felt the same way.

They were just following the bible.

No they weren't.

 

[Asclepias]

I cant believe they offered a settlement for the bigots doing something against the law.

i believe it's a civil offense, not criminal.

Since they are the ones that committed the offense why are they being offered compensation?

who is the 'they' in that sentence?

My bad. Barronelle Stutzman.

 

[Asclepias]

Being discriminatory against gay people is about as relativist as it gets.

Discrimination is an essential element of survival and humanity cannot be sustained without it... as no individual can be sustained without it and no nation can be sustained without it.

But! HOW cool is it, that YOU a Relativist is advocating for humanity to suspend essential elements, CRITICAL to its SURVIVAL?

(The Reader will recognize that such an advocacy can only be a function of EVIL!)

Racial or sexual discrimination is not essential to anyone.

 

[Iceweasel]

She sounds like an old crank.

I'd be cranky also if the homos and state attacked my business

No one has attacked her business.

Ugh...yeah right. The homos couldn't find a homo florist? Yeaaahh right

Once again, this was a case of a couple who spent money for years at a business only for the business to suddenly pull the religion card on them.

The business owner is a bigot and she is welcome to be a bigot but that doesn't excuse her from following local business laws. If anyone was attacked, it was the gay couple.

Wrong. The state is ignoring her Constitutional right to follow her religion. You're the bigot.

 

[Katzndogz]

Totalitarian governments have always conscripted artists to support them. This is old hat worn many times.

 

[Dot Com]

Oh please.

The homo brigade is so incredibly stupid, they think they will win this battle.

They won't. They are a TINY minority...and the VAST majority of Americans has absolutely ZERO desire to accommodate their increasingly oppressive demands.

'oppressive demands' as in asking that the law be followed......

I know right?

 

[ogibillm]

I cant believe they offered a settlement for the bigots doing something against the law.

i believe it's a civil offense, not criminal.

Since they are the ones that committed the offense why are they being offered compensation?

who is the 'they' in that sentence?

My bad. Barronelle Stutzman.

she was ordered to pay $2001

 

[Ravi]

She sounds like an old crank.

I'd be cranky also if the homos and state attacked my business

No one has attacked her business.

Ugh...yeah right. The homos couldn't find a homo florist? Yeaaahh right

Once again, this was a case of a couple who spent money for years at a business only for the business to suddenly pull the religion card on them.

The business owner is a bigot and she is welcome to be a bigot but that doesn't excuse her from following local business laws. If anyone was attacked, it was the gay couple.

Wrong. The state is ignoring her Constitutional right to follow her religion. You're the bigot.

Where in her religion is it written that she cannot arrange flowers for a wedding?

 

[G.T.]

Being discriminatory against gay people is about as relativist as it gets.

Discrimination is an essential element of survival and humanity cannot be sustained without it... as no individual can be sustained without it and no nation can be sustained without it.

But! HOW cool is it, that YOU a Relativist, is advocating for humanity to suspend essential elements, CRITICAL to its SURVIVAL?

(The Reader will recognize that such an advocacy can only be a function of EVIL!)

Thats a pretty asinine theory. Amongst the dumbest ive seen, in fact.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

I'd be cranky also if the homos and state attacked my business

No one has attacked her business.

Ugh...yeah right. The homos couldn't find a homo florist? Yeaaahh right

Once again, this was a case of a couple who spent money for years at a business only for the business to suddenly pull the religion card on them.

The business owner is a bigot and she is welcome to be a bigot but that doesn't excuse her from following local business laws. If anyone was attacked, it was the gay couple.

Wrong. The state is ignoring her Constitutional right to follow her religion. You're the bigot.

Where in her religion is it written that she cannot arrange flowers for a wedding?

Right next to where it says homos can get married

 

[Iceweasel]

Yeah, she thinks she lives in a free country with 1st amendment rights - the fool.

Benton County Superior Court Judge Alex Ekstrom rejected arguments from the owner of Arlene's Flowers in Richland that her actions were protected by her religious freedom. He said that while religious beliefs are protected by the First Amendment, actions based on those beliefs aren't necessarily. Courts have long held that lawmakers can prohibit discriminatory conduct, and the judge said florist Barronelle Stutzman broke the law when she refused to sell flowers for a same-sex wedding in 2013.

Joe. My. God. WASHINGTON Anti-Gay Florist Found Guilty In Public Accommodations Case

Beliefs without actions are meaningless. The problem is that Christians have not formed activist groups and put pressure on the religion bigots.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

... The business owner is a bigot and she is welcome to be a bigot ... .

Nature requires that given the defining elements of the concept 'Bigotry', the best sign that one is dealing with a bigot, is that they will be called such, thus proving > themselves <intolerant toward those who hold different opinions from oneself.

 

[Asclepias]

I cant believe they offered a settlement for the bigots doing something against the law.

i believe it's a civil offense, not criminal.

Since they are the ones that committed the offense why are they being offered compensation?

who is the 'they' in that sentence?

My bad. Barronelle Stutzman.

she was ordered to pay $2001

The way this was worded made it seem as if they paid her some money and she turned it down.

"After Barronelle Stutzman, 70, declined a $2,001 settlement offer in a letter to the state’s attorney general on Friday, her attorney...."

 

[BlindBoo]

Such is the nature of Relativism... and it is dangerous to nothing short of the viability of the culture:

Relativism is the doctrine which holds that knowledge, truth, and morality exist only in relation to one's cultural, societal, historical and personal context, and, as such can never be the result of soundly reasoned absolutes.

It is through this, perversion of reason, wherein relativism axiomatically rejects the objectivity that is essential to truth.

And with truth being essential to trust and, both of those being critical to the establishment of a soundly reasoned morality, and because a soundly reasoned morality is essential to Justice... it becomes clear to reasonable people, that Relativism can never serve justice.

And here's how it works and why it is SUCH a dangerous expression of the Foreign Ideas Hostile to American Principle:

Congress shall make no law ... prohibiting the free exercise [of religion]; or abridging the freedom of speech...

How does the Relativism 'interpret' THAT?

Benton County Superior Court Judge Alex Ekstrom rejected arguments from the owner of Arlene's Flowers in Richland that her actions were protected by her religious freedom. He said that while religious beliefs are protected by the First Amendment, actions based on those beliefs aren't necessarily. Courts have long held that lawmakers can prohibit discriminatory conduct, and the judge said florist Barronelle Stutzman broke the law when she refused to sell flowers for a same-sex wedding in 2013.

Joe. My. God. WASHINGTON Anti-Gay Florist Found Guilty In Public Accommodations Case

See how that works?

Has nothing to do with Relativism. It is simply a case of enforcing the law of Washington State.

"He (The Judge) said that while religious beliefs are protected by the First Amendment, actions based on those beliefs aren't necessarily." Your religion might say the only way to heaven is by human sacrifice. You have the right to believe it, however if you acted it out you'll be charged with murder and thrown in jail. Unless the high court rules that accommodation laws are unconstitutional imo this decision will stand.

 

[Uncensored2008]

True. This person needed to be made an example of. Justice served.

You can't have people going around thinking they have civil rights!

You'll crush that 1st amendment into dust! Groups favored by the party will be show submission, or punishment will follow!

democrats found a Christian florist and took action!

Won't bow to the sexual preference of those beloved of the party.

Now he will suffer.

 

[Ravi]

No one has attacked her business.

Ugh...yeah right. The homos couldn't find a homo florist? Yeaaahh right

Once again, this was a case of a couple who spent money for years at a business only for the business to suddenly pull the religion card on them.

The business owner is a bigot and she is welcome to be a bigot but that doesn't excuse her from following local business laws. If anyone was attacked, it was the gay couple.

Wrong. The state is ignoring her Constitutional right to follow her religion. You're the bigot.

Where in her religion is it written that she cannot arrange flowers for a wedding?

Right next to where it says homos can get married

Our laws are not written in the bible but nice attempt at deflection.