Florida No Warmer Than 60 Years Ago

[Sinatra]

According to temp data from Weather Underground, the average yearly temperature for Miami Florida from July 8 2008 - July 8 2009 was 77 Degrees. Sixty years ago, the average temperature for Miami Florida from July 8 1948 - July 8 1949 was 77 Degrees.

WHERE IS THE GLOBAL WARMING FOLKS?

Miami's annual temperature averages have fluctuated roughly from 75 degrees to 78 degrees. The 77 degree average of the most recent year is also the same as
1960 - 1961, and 1994 - 1995.

This also represents being one degree cooler than the Miami average of 78 Degrees in 1990 - 1991.

Just some food for thought as we watch this Democrat Congress and White House attempt passage of a Cap and Tax program that will inflict great harm to every American in the name of climate disaster that does not exist.

 

[Old Rocks]

Local Climate Changes
Over the last century, average temperatures have increased in
Florida. At Ocala, the 1892-1921 average temperature was
almost 67°F; the 1966-1995 average temperature was over 69°F.
Precipitation over the last hundred years has decreased in the
Keys and parts of south Florida, and increased in central Florida
and the panhandle.

http://yosemite.epa.gov/OAR/globalwarming.nsf/UniqueKeyLookup/SHSU5BUKSV/$File/fl_impct.pdf

 

[Old Rocks]

Many of the regional climate change findings
over the past five to ten years can be summarized as
followings (Crowe and Quayle, in Ning et al. 2000):
8 Temperatures are increasing.
8 Regional temperature changes are several times
larger than the global average:
Daily minimum temperatures are increasing at
twice the rate of maximum temperatures and
several times the rate of global temperature
increase.
Increase for minimum is 1.5o F since 1950 (0.7o
F for maximum).
8 There is evidence for an enhanced hydrologic
cycle:
Decrease in daily temperature range
More atmospheric water vapor
More precipitation
More intense precipitation events
Stronger extratropical storms
8 There is no evidence for changes in hurricane
frequency or intensity.
A most serious consequence of climate change
during the past Century to the Gulf Coast environments
is sea-level rise in response to melting of
some polar ice and thermal expansion of warmer
oceans (Muller and Grymes in Ning et al. 2000). The
historical data suggested sea-level rise of about 12
cm (5 inches) over the last 100 years, and a much
greater rise during the next 100 years. It must be
stressed that for the Gulf Coast region these are very
conservative estimates of local sea level rise, as continued
deltaic and coastal subsidence is likely to significantly
enhance the apperant sea level rise above global
projections.

http://www.usgcrp.gov/usgcrp/Library/nationalassessment/gulfcoast/gulfcoast-chapter5.pdf

 

[Oddball]

Yet, Tampa and Miami are still on dry land.

 

[Old Rocks]

Sources, Sinatra, sources.

 

[Sinatra]

Weather Underground - has temperature data on a number of urban locations dating back 70 years.

Simply do a bit of actual effort and see for yourself.

Miami's temps are no warmer now than they were 60 years ago. Moderate fluctuations over the last 60 years.

Global Warming - NOT.

Stop being spoon fed pre-determined data - find out for yourself what is actually going on. The earth continues to cool and warm in moderate variations - a crisis of global warming is NOT taking place.

Cap and Tax is a sham and simple governmental power grab aided by those comfortable with a political agenda over actual data...

 

[KittenKoder]

The really sad thing is that the global warming hoax would be easier to believe ...

... if only the peer pressured scientists actually showed their work and stopped changing their own data every year.

 

[editec]

Do you really not understand the difference between global climate and local weather, Sinatra?

I mean seriously do you think this proves anything?

Here's a clue...it doesn't.

A hot year in some locale doesn't indicate global warming and a cold year in some locale doesn't prove global cooling either,

Make a note of it, would you?

 

[Nik]

Weather Underground - has temperature data on a number of urban locations dating back 70 years.

Simply do a bit of actual effort and see for yourself.

Miami's temps are no warmer now than they were 60 years ago. Moderate fluctuations over the last 60 years.

Global Warming - NOT.

Stop being spoon fed pre-determined data - find out for yourself what is actually going on. The earth continues to cool and warm in moderate variations - a crisis of global warming is NOT taking place.

Cap and Tax is a sham and simple governmental power grab aided by those comfortable with a political agenda over actual data...

That every temperature is not warmer than every temperature 60 years ago does not mean the average temperature has not gone up.

Surely you can understand the difference, yes?

 

[Nik]

The really sad thing is that the global warming hoax would be easier to believe ...

... if only the peer pressured scientists actually showed their work and stopped changing their own data every year.

It might be easier to believe if you stopped believing obviously flawed arguments as well. But theres no indication that you ever will.

 

[Old Rocks]

Here is an area far more important than Miami when one considers the effects of long term warming.


What is happening to permafrost? The long-term records of the near-surface permafrost temperature, obtained from different parts of the permafrost zone in northern regions, show a significant warming trend during the last 30 years (Table 1). Ground temperature trends generally follow the trends in the air temperatures with a more pronounced warming in the lower latitudes (between 55° and 65° North). This recent climate warming brought soil temperatures to a surprisingly high level, about 1 to 3°C warmer than long-term averages (Figure 3). Within some areas, the permafrost temperatures are very close to 0°C (Figure 4) and at some sites long-term permafrost degradation has already started (Fedorov, 1996; Osterkamp et al., 2000; Jorgenson et al., 2001; Fedorov and Konstantinov, 2003; Gavriliev and Efremov, 2003).

How rapidly is permafrost changing - Romanovsky

 

[Old Rocks]

Even though winter temperatures in Alaska have increased an average of 5-7° F due to global warming, winters in Fairbanks are still a very cold. In the circumpolar North, energy efficient infrastructure is a must for reducing greenhouse gases and conserving energy and money.

Fairbanks - Alaska Conservation Solutions

 

[Old Rocks]

Abstract
The surface temperature inversion in the
subarctic setting of Fairbanks, Alaska has
been investigated. In winter the inversion
is strong and semi-permanent; it
separates the boundary layer from the air
aloft and has great importance for
pollution levels in town. We analyzed the
changes that have occurred since
radiosonde measurements began in
1957. For the time period from 1957 to
2004 a strong warming trend was
observed in Fairbanks; the winter mean
surface temperatures have increased by
3.3°C, more than for any other season.

http://ams.confex.com/ams/pdfpapers/84504.pdf

 

[editec]

It's sunny here in Maine today.

Ergo it will henceforth always be sunnny.

Seriously, I wonder about the people here posting crap like Sinatra is doing regards climate.

Can they really be this stupid, or are they merely hoping we are?

 

[Oddball]

It's sunny here in Maine today.

Ergo it will henceforth always be sunnny.

Seriously, I wonder about the people here posting crap like Sinatra is doing regards climate.

Can they really be this stupid, or are they merely hoping we are?

That one cuts both ways.

Just because it was unusually warm for ten or fifteen years, does that trend necessarily extrapolate out fifty to 100 years??

 

[wvulax]

can't we just agree that everyone wants to live in FLA. I cannot wait to move to the keys and cheer on big Pat when he leads the dolphins to a SB.

 

[Sinatra]

And if one does an averaging per decade, we see for example New York City - with a 1980s temperature average of 61.6 degrees.

For the most recent decade, the temperature average comes out to 61.3 degrees - thus, New York has been cooler than it was over two decades ago.

Global Warming?

Jump over to Seattle - there we see a 1980s temperature average of 60.3 degrees.

For the last decade this average has fallen to 59.1 degrees.

Global Warming?

Shall we cross the pond to London? That great old city had a 1980's temperature average of 52.03 degrees.

During this last decade, that average has fallen to 51.85 degrees.

Global Warming?


What does Al say?

 

[Nik]

And if one does an averaging per decade, we see for example New York City - with a 1980s temperature average of 61.6 degrees.

For the most recent decade, the temperature average comes out to 61.3 degrees - thus, New York has been cooler than it was over two decades ago.

Global Warming?

Jump over to Seattle - there we see a 1980s temperature average of 60.3 degrees.

For the last decade this average has fallen to 59.1 degrees.

Global Warming?

Shall we cross the pond to London? That great old city had a 1980's temperature average of 52.03 degrees.

During this last decade, that average has fallen to 51.85 degrees.

Global Warming?


What does Al say?

How bout we look at the world instead of particular cherry picked data points?

Oh, hey, it shows the world is warming. What a surprise.

 

[jillian]

According to temp data from Weather Underground, the average yearly temperature for Miami Florida from July 8 2008 - July 8 2009 was 77 Degrees. Sixty years ago, the average temperature for Miami Florida from July 8 1948 - July 8 1949 was 77 Degrees.

WHERE IS THE GLOBAL WARMING FOLKS?

You're reall compulsive in your dishonesty, aren't you?

Hurricanes Have Doubled Due to Global Warming, Study SaysJohn Roach
for National Geographic News

July 30, 2007
The number of Atlantic hurricanes that form each year has doubled over the past century and global warming is largely to blame, according a new study.

The increase occurred in two major steps of about 50 percent each, one in the 1930s and the second since 1995.

Hurricanes Have Doubled Due to Global Warming, Study Says

yep... i think you should go live in florida.

 

[Old Rocks]

It's sunny here in Maine today.

Ergo it will henceforth always be sunnny.

Seriously, I wonder about the people here posting crap like Sinatra is doing regards climate.

Can they really be this stupid, or are they merely hoping we are?

That one cuts both ways.

Just because it was unusually warm for ten or fifteen years, does that trend necessarily extrapolate out fifty to 100 years??

Now look at the graph from NOAA that Nik posted. That is one hundred and thirty years worth of trend. What is the slope of that graph and in what direction? It would seem that your question is answered.