Florida Democrats drop idea of primary redo

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    Wasn't it the Democrats who in 2000 wailed and moaned that voters were disenfranchised because votes weren't counted due to procedural/administrative error?

    Yet they just disenfranchised the whole state.:eusa_eh:
     
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    Actually that would be Crist and the Florida legislature who disenfranchised the state.
     
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    Wrong, the vote was held. The Democratic party refuses to abide by the vote because it happened a few days ahead of when the PARTY wanted votes to happen. Not because it wasn't fair, not because it wasn't legal, not because of any taint of corruption or stuffed ballots. BUT because the Party Leadership had a hissy fit and interfered in the right of a State to decide when, where and how they will hold a primary.
     
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    Neither candidate got to campaign there. It obviously wasn't fair. And no, the States don't get to decide when and where and how they will hold a primary. Not if they want it counted.

    The Democratic party set out RULES for the primaries. Florida decided to take a gamble and broke them. If Crist and the legislature weren't so stupid they wouldn't be in this mess.
     
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    In other words, the Democrats have disenfranchised an entire State because it did not agree to a totally arbitrary date and as a State the Democrats chose to hold the Primary when they did.
     
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    Not true, the State Legislature decides the date for the primary....after all it is the State that pays for it.
    I believe there can be earlier applications to the DNC for rearrangement of the schedule but I don't think that happened.

    The legislation for the date passed almost unanimously in both houses.

    Instead of penalizing the state of all its delegates, the DNC could have only penalized half of them - like the Republicans did.
     
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    It wasn't Crist. He's not too bad for a Republican.
     
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    Arbitrary date?

    Actually they didn't want a leapfrog effect which would put primaries absurdly early.

    Umm, no. As a state Crist (A Republican) and the Republican florida legislature chose to hold the primary when they did.
     
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    Yes they do, but if they want those votes counted they need to play by the DNC's rules.

    Which makes sense....in 20-20 hindsight. At the time there was effectively no difference except that it effectively made Florida and Michigan useless, instead of only symbolically so.
     
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    The state held the election, on the day of its choosing, as is its absolute right.
    It is the DNC that chose to ignore the results.
    There's no way to argue that anyone other than the DNC disenfranchised anyone.

    Never mind that there's no right to vote in the nomination process -- the parties decide, with plenary power, how to determine their nominee; that decision in no way needs to include a vote.
     

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