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The party ulitmately gets to decide who they run. Simple as that. If you truly believe as you suggest, then to be consistent, you'd have to also believe that the superdelegates shouldn't get to vote at all.
Look of the definition of a representative republic..partially true...but not completely.
The party, supplies the candidates, BUT THE STATE GOVERNMENT Rules the primary election by Law...
It is our primary election to nominate a President, it is not the democrats or the Republican party's, it is the citizen's primary.
We govern it, we pay for it, we legally certify the votes, we legally certify the delegates, all within each state's Constitution and each state's Election Rules and guidelines...
And the Democratic Party of the United States took Pledge to honor the constitution of the United States first and foremost.
Are you sure? It is the state, not the party, that sets the date and process for the primary election in Michigan and Florida, and the candidates for the general election chosen in that process across the land are the presumed candidates to be the next President of the United States. You don't see a problem with the Party presuming to change the results of such elections?
Then again there is no Constitutional provision for the primary system and there was a time when the Party got together at a convention meeting to choose their candidate to run.
Maybe that system produced better candidates? But once they turned it over to the people to choose the candidates, it bugs me that the Party would then presume to cancel out the vote of some voters.
Bulloney...even the DNC Charter states that the Convention CAN NOT BEGIN WITHOUT all 50 states seated with their delegates...
The DNC rules and bylaws committee overstepped their own Charter, which overrules anything the committee has done....it is their Constitution.
The rules and bylaws committee had NO AUTHORITY to strip the citizens of their due representaion....no matter what the committee thinks...
They even broke their own Charter which does NOT allow for them to take any state's delegates from their certified vote, away from them completly, as they did so wrongly...
Given that primaries are elections paid for by taxpayers, do you think that the state has the finally say in their validity?
Why or why not.
partially true...but not completely.
The party, supplies the candidates, BUT THE STATE GOVERNMENT Rules the primary election by Law...
It is our primary election to nominate a President, it is not the democrats or the Republican party's, it is the citizen's primary.
We govern it, we pay for it, we legally certify the votes, we legally certify the delegates, all within each state's Constitution and each state's Election Rules and guidelines...
And the Democratic Party of the United States took Pledge to honor the constitution of the United States first and foremost.
Sure, great idea. Then New York can claim that 400,000,000 people voted for Hillary. They certify it, and nobody can challenge it, gotta be valid.
Its not a state election. Its an election for a PRIVATE party. The State can put conditions on the money and say that if the DNC wants the money they have to abide by certain rules, but it can't pay for an election (that the DNC says is invalid), and then force the DNC to abide by its rules, just because they paid for something the DNC didn't want.
Maybe next the state can start electing cabinet positions. Or Supreme Court judges. I mean, why not? They can pay for it, that means they can put whoever they want in whatever position they want, right?
no it is NOT...
it is a STATE PRIMARY paid for and governed by our state election laws as with every other election....the Parties participate and have a roll in our primaries, but as easily as they participate in them because our LAWS have been set up to do such, the Congress can take that away...........
NO PARTY RULES ANYONE in the united states of america or their elections,,,,those are gvt certified elections....the parties do not pay for them or produce them, the state gvts do...........
so ENOUGH OF THESE LIES that someone has told you that are spreading around about this....truely, do some research yourself on this....start with the DNC charter, even they pledge to abide by the usa laws and constitution....and to go out of their way to make every vote count .....and the law in florida/michigan was constitutional....?
don't let anyone tell you that your legal vote cast, doesn't count!!!!!
your vote is your only means to sovereignty over your gvt.
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no it is NOT...
it is a STATE PRIMARY paid for and governed by our state election laws as with every other election....the Parties participate and have a roll in our primaries, but as easily as they participate in them because our LAWS have been set up to do such, the Congress can take that away...........
NO PARTY RULES ANYONE in the united states of america or their elections,,,,those are gvt certified elections....the parties do not pay for them or produce them, the state gvts do...........
so ENOUGH OF THESE LIES that someone has told you that are spreading around about this....truely, do some research yourself on this....start with the DNC charter
, even they pledge to abide by the usa laws and constitution....and to go out of their way to make every vote count .....and the law in florida/michigan was constitutional....?
don't let anyone tell you that your legal vote cast, doesn't count!!!!!
your vote is your only means to sovereignty over your gvt.
care
States play a major role in structuring and monitoring the primary election process, but the processes by which political parties select their nominees are not wholly public affairs that States may regulate freely. To the contrary, States must act within limits imposed by the Constitution when regulating parties' internal processes.
In no area is the political association's right to exclude more important than in its candidate-selection process.
Strange...that's exactly what the States did NOT do with Michigan.
Which is why the parties CREATED these nominations, and states have only been involved until recently, right?
And Congress does NOT have the authority to take away the right to choose the Democratic Nominee from the Democratic Party.
They rule themselves. And these ARE NOT ELECTIONS FOR A GOVERNMENT POSITION. How hard is that to understand?
How about YOU do some research on it, starting with Supreme Court decisions on primary law, which trumps by FAR your asinine opinion.
Jesus Christ. Learn the Constitution before invoking it.
It wasn't a legal vote cast.
The DNC is NOT the government. Nor is anyone winning the primary a government official.
I notice you just skipped over your rampant stupidity about it being the "citizens primary" and we are "voting for a president".
Act within limits? Sure they did. They are more than free to change the date, just as the DNC is more than free to ignore their delegates if they choose to change the date.
Larkin, please....I can tell you just love to argue for the SAKE of arguement....pretty much like me!!!! hahahahaha in case you haven't noticed?
Think about this for a second...you keep saying this election is not for a government office and this is why it is the DNC's private election for a nominee.... WELL, YOU SURELY can not THINK that we the voters are going to sit back and let someone else pick a candidate for us?
What good is voting for president if the Candidates for president are always going to be chosen for us? I don't think you can have a presidential election without a primary election selecting our candidates, they tie together.
As with all state elections, including the primaries for usa congressmen or Senator...we the people choose our candidates and every election in every state is governed by law, respecting the sanctity of our individual vote...now the two major parties do "put up" the candidates and so do Independents and Libertarians....but those from the two major parties who are in state legislatures and the federal gvt have legislated election laws to make it difficult for an outside or 3rd parties to participate in our elections securing more seats for themselves....I recognize this...(And that's another topic)
Anyway, I totally differ with you...the primary is OUR way of choosing our presidential candidate for our nominee for president....even the DNC Charter states such...
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§ 2. Whenever any State has held an election for the purpose of choosing electors, and has failed to make a choice on the day prescribed by law, the electors may be appointed on a subsequent day in such a manner as the legislature of such State may direct.
U.S. Senate: Reference Home > Constitution of the United StatesCongress has enacted legislation requiring that presidential elections (the selection of electors) occur on the Tuesday following the first Monday in November every four years. Electors gather to vote on the Monday after the second Wednesday in December. The two houses of Congress convene to count the electoral ballots on the following January 6.
Act within limits? Sure they did. They are more than free to change the date, just as the DNC is more than free to ignore their delegates if they choose to change the date.
COTUS
A state can send electors to vote for whomever they wish in November. Political parties would like for you to believe that you have to play by their rules but the state of Michigan or Florida can send all their electors to vote for Mickey Mouse in the general election.
Larkin, please....I can tell you just love to argue for the SAKE of arguement....pretty much like me!!!! hahahahaha in case you haven't noticed?
Think about this for a second...you keep saying this election is not for a government office and this is why it is the DNC's private election for a nominee.... WELL, YOU SURELY can not THINK that we the voters are going to sit back and let someone else pick a candidate for us?
What good is voting for president if the Candidates for president are always going to be chosen for us?
I don't think you can have a presidential election without a primary election selecting our candidates, they tie together.
As with all state elections, including the primaries for usa congressmen or Senator...we the people choose our candidates and every election in every state is governed by law, respecting the sanctity of our individual vote
Anyway, I totally differ with you...the primary is OUR way of choosing our presidential candidate for our nominee for president....even the DNC Charter states such...
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