Fiscal cliff talks....

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All I hear are talks about taxes. Why is no one talking about the drivers of the debt? Why is all the pressure and focus on the GOP? They have budged on revenues. Shown a willingness to move the discussion forward but I've heard zero talk about the entitlements that actually drive the debt.

I'm beginning to believe that democrats are intentionally pushing the issue to the brink in order to score political points with the thought that the GOP will simply cave.
 
They are considering reductions in medicaid, medicare and social security, by raising the age requirements. What you will never hear of is reducing the entitlements of the Congress persons. Which they should sacrifice as they expect the common taxpayer to do.
 
Huge cuts to medicare. These geezers ain't producing nothing anymore, they're dead weight!
 
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Raising the age requirements is a bandaid on an open wound. This is the time for serious reform. A true leader could easily emerge on this issue were one to exist.
 
Raising the age requirements is a bandaid on an open wound. This is the time for serious reform. A true leader could easily emerge on this issue were one to exist.

Raising the age is far from a bandaid. it will fix Social Security and do much to make Medicare more solvent
 
Lets see......................The same incompetent bureaucrats that got us into this fiscal debacle are now going to propose a liitle band aid to stem the bleeding ? Comical
 
Raising the age requirements is a bandaid on an open wound. This is the time for serious reform. A true leader could easily emerge on this issue were one to exist.

I would like to see a balanced approach, say 10% cuts in programs a year, and a 10% tax increase a year untill the deficit is paid down to where we could reduce taxes to pay for a balanced buget that also pays down the debt. Stop foriegn aid, get our soldiers out of countries that we are not at war with and reduce the amount of tax deductions that the rich use as a loop hole to play tax avoision. But you will not see that in our leaders, so they should not be paid until they actually do something, but they won't, they are the ones on a free ride, welfare rrecipiants could do a beter job than those in Congress now.
 
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Raising the age requirements is a bandaid on an open wound. This is the time for serious reform. A true leader could easily emerge on this issue were one to exist.

Raising the age is far from a bandaid. it will fix Social Security and do much to make Medicare more solvent

Ss isn't really the problem so that is moot. Medicade is a whole nother beast.
 
According to a recent AP article the very catalyst behind the fiscal cliff and sustainability issue has been systematically removed from the discussion by leading democrats and President because they have a mandate. Apparently the conciliatory tone of the Messiah during the election was just a political ploy, as several pointed out, but media refused to accept, he had no intention of cutting entitlements just expanding the tax base without cuts.
 
Raising the age requirements is a bandaid on an open wound. This is the time for serious reform. A true leader could easily emerge on this issue were one to exist.

Raising the age is far from a bandaid. it will fix Social Security and do much to make Medicare more solvent

Is that a fact, and you base your numbers on what? Please share your source.
 
Raising the age requirements is a bandaid on an open wound. This is the time for serious reform. A true leader could easily emerge on this issue were one to exist.

Raising the age is far from a bandaid. it will fix Social Security and do much to make Medicare more solvent

What would fix Social Security would be if Congress put all the money back that they took from it and btw bamie should put that 716 Billion he took from medicare back. People paid that money into medicare, it wasn't his for the taking.
 
Huge cuts to medicare. These geezers ain't producing nothing anymore, they're dead weight!

Baby's don't produce anything either, is that why you liberals like to kill them? :eusa_eh:

Now Widyo Wiyo, I bet that is a Libertarian talking, someone like Paul Ryan. Wonderful to see everyone here railing at everyone's entitlements except the ones they recieve:lol:
 
Hell, fix the SS system with a single swoop of the pen. The 6.2% I pay applies to all income from whatever source. That would fund SS and MediCare for the foreseeable future.
 
Don't see the problem with going over the cliff.

It's what they voted on.

It would REALLY reduce spending.

Lets do it!
 
Raising the age requirements is a bandaid on an open wound. This is the time for serious reform. A true leader could easily emerge on this issue were one to exist.

Raising the age is far from a bandaid. it will fix Social Security and do much to make Medicare more solvent

Ss isn't really the problem so that is moot. Medicade is a whole nother beast.

Raising the Social Security retirement age will also raise the age when you can get Medicare. It will automatically help Medicare

The problem with Medicare is the escallating heathcare costs. We need to attack that nationwide
 
Raising the age is far from a bandaid. it will fix Social Security and do much to make Medicare more solvent

Ss isn't really the problem so that is moot. Medicade is a whole nother beast.

Raising the Social Security retirement age will also raise the age when you can get Medicare. It will automatically help Medicare

The problem with Medicare is the escallating heathcare costs. We need to attack that nationwide

Raising the retirement age won't do diddly to help the debt or deficit. And in fact because of the added cost of doing might actually have many un-intended consequences.

There's no obligation on the part of employers to keep old employees around..for one.

Do the math.
 
Raising the age is far from a bandaid. it will fix Social Security and do much to make Medicare more solvent

Ss isn't really the problem so that is moot. Medicade is a whole nother beast.

Raising the Social Security retirement age will also raise the age when you can get Medicare. It will automatically help Medicare

The problem with Medicare is the escallating heathcare costs. We need to attack that nationwide

The only way to attack escalating medical costs is to create a universal single payer health care system. That has worked for every other industrial nation in the world. Not only worked, has cut their costs, resulted in far better outcomes in longevity and infant mortality. Also, reduced the number of bankruptcies due to medical bills to zero for those nations, while ours remains at 750,000 to a million families a year.

Sick Around The World | FRONTLINE | PBS
 

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