Fisa documents released. Nunes memo thoroughly discredited.

[easyt65]

Funny....the US IG report already cited FBI abused the FISA Courts...

Queasy pulls turds out of his ass.........WHERE is the IG report SPECIFICALLY citing "abuses"??

The US IG report stated the FBI used an unverified report - the Dossier - as a confirmed valid report, which it was not, which was an abuse of the FISA court.

The US IG also slammed the FBI for 'altering witness' testimonu', something both Rosenstein and Mueller have been caught doing before.

 

[Crepitus]

As we all knew, when the truth came out, the Nunes memo was total bullshit.




FBI releases Carter Page surveillance warrant documents - CNNPolitics

How did the FISA warrant discredit the Nunes memo?

Have you not been following this at all?

I suggest you read Nunes's fake memo so you know what it was about.

 

[Crepitus]

As we all knew, when the truth came out, the Nunes memo was total bullshit.




FBI releases Carter Page surveillance warrant documents - CNNPolitics

Note:
This is a heavily redacted version.
I guess they needed to redact the fuck out of it to remove any evidence of abuse.

BINGO!

Lol!

 

[Jantje_Smit]

As usual, a Trump supporter doesn't know the facts of the topic, asks for links with the information, and then when they get it, they just say it is a lie...

You just don't get it, I don't say the information is a lie

I'm saying that when the FBI says how they got that 'data' (without showing any evidence) that the FBI is probably lying about that

People like you are the reason why there is such a divide in the U.S. You're fucking trolls.

And people like you (besides the psycho princess herself of course) is the reason you have an orange clown in the oval office instead of pretzeldent Bernie

 

[Jantje_Smit]

Did you miss the phrase "probable cause"?

That's a legal term with a very specific definition.

Probable Cause

There are standards that must be met far beyond "we think so".

I didn't miss that, I missed the reasons for that "probable cause" though

 

[depotoo]

Stefan Halper was paid a million bucks by the Obama administration. It was a set up. A setup that involved another Clinton/Obama/Clapper ally. Plain and simple.

Why Carter Page Was Worth Watching

Thanks, interesting stuff

Allthough you do realize that's an opinion piece, right?

What I highlighted, which is what you asked for, is NOT opinion. The FBI stated they knew the motives of the Russians, and what they had said about Page not through the Steele dossier, but through bugs they had on them.

I really do think you are brain dead. You can't even realize the difference between facts and opinions.

 

[easyt65]

View attachment 206369

Like snowflakes claiming Putin bugged the soccer ball he gave Trump?!

Bwuhahahaha!

 

[ColonelAngus]

Ends: Impeach Trump
Means: how the fuck ever it needs to get done

All this bullshit is that simple.

Tony Podesta gets immunity to roll on Manaforte in hopes that Manaforte will roll on Trump for anything.

What happened to the Trump/Putin collusion to rig the election? I thought that was what the Mueller investigation was about.

The only election rigging we saw was HIllary rigging the DNC primary.

 

[depotoo]

Not only the phony documents paid for by the DNC, but by the administration as well.

This thread is about an FBI FISA warrant on Carter Page and how it shows Nunes was trying to protect Trump through lies.

Within less than a page in this thread however, it's already been directed to being about Hillary Clinton using psychotropic drugs in children's vaccinations that causes them to have seizures when looking into the sky when secret military planes are spreading chem trails meant to spread alien DNA into the human gene pool.

Your reading comprehension really sucks...


First Thoughts On the Carter Page FISA Application

But Page has never been charged with anything. Accordingly, the least we can say is that Obama’s FBI and DOJ were wrong.

Second, the application’s description of Christopher Steele and the provenance of his dossier was misleading at best:

he “identified U.S. person” is Glenn Simpson, the head of Fusion GPS. Source #1 is Christopher Steele. The DOJ’s statement that “the FBI speculates that the identified U.S person [Simpson] was likely looking for information that could be used to discredit Candidate #1’s [Trump’s] campaign” could only have been an intentional effort to deceive the FISA judge.

The FBI was perfectly well aware that the Hillary Clinton campaign and the DNC hired Simpson through their lawyers, and the purpose of doing so was to attack candidate Donald Trump.

References to “speculation” about “likely” motives are entirely dishonest.

Third, the application relies to an astonishing degree on anti-Trump news stories published in the Democratic Party press. Does the FBI really get surveillance warrants on the basis of partisan press accounts? Apparently so. For example:
-----

Amazingly, the FISA application relies on “speculation in U.S. media” for the proposition that Russia was behind the phishing of DNC emails:
------

Fourth, we still don’t know who at the FBI assembled the FISA application, since that person’s signature is redacted. But we do know who approved it–hyper-partisans James Comey and Sally Yates:

That probably tells us all we need to know about the veracity of the FISA application. Perhaps one day we will learn that Peter Strzok was the Democratic Party activist who prepared the application.

What I really want to know is the identity of the judge who signed off on the surveillance of Carter Page, based on such flimsy grounds. Some are speculating that he must be from Hawaii.

No, the only thing that sucks...

Is the fact that you guys can not even remotely discuss the topic. I mean you guys get so far off topic, so quickly, it's fucking amazing.

Let me repeat a very simple thing that anyone that still thinks this is a joke needs to pay attention to.

The FBI was investigating the actions of some Russian spies who were trying to groom American assets. The FBI TOLD CARTER PAGE who they were and what they were trying to do. Carter Page fucking ignored the FBI's warning and kept cooperating with the Russian spies and even ramped up his game.

So how in the wide wide world do you think the FBI was not justified in getting a FISA warrant on Page? THEY WARNED HIM OF EXACTLY WHO AND WHAT THE GUYS WERE. Page still did his thing.

You desperately need to ignore the fact that the FISA warrants were obtained illegally against American citizens.....with the okay of the leadership of the FBI and the Department of Justice, likely with the approval of the White House since an operation against the opposition party is so far outside legitimate activity that it makes the Plumbers and Watergate a nothing burger in comparison.....

They weren't obtained illegally. They followed the FISA warrant process.

Your brain is stuck on this idea it was based only based off the Steele dossier. That's fucking wrong. Page was under investigation as far back as 2013 because he didn't listen to the FBI's warnings.

Do you have any idea how rare it is that the FBI would actually warn an American citizen beforehand like this? Basically exposing that the Russian spies covers had been blown? Yet Page ignored that lifeline and even doubled down when he went to Russia and praised Russia and made anti-American statements.

... but then again Trump supporters suddenly like Russia and Putin now.

The FISA warrant process isn't supposed to be based on phony documents paid for by the opposition candidate for the office of President.

 

[depotoo]

Though it wasn’t just Clinton, but the administration as well.

Ends: Impeach Trump
Means: how the fuck ever it needs to get done

All this bullshit is that simple.

Tony Podesta gets immunity to roll on Manaforte in hopes that Manaforte will roll on Trump for anything.

What happened to the Trump/Putin collusion to rig the election? I thought that was what the Mueller investigation was about.

The only election rigging we saw was HIllary rigging the DNC primary.

 

[Hellokitty]

This thread is about an FBI FISA warrant on Carter Page and how it shows Nunes was trying to protect Trump through lies.

Within less than a page in this thread however, it's already been directed to being about Hillary Clinton using psychotropic drugs in children's vaccinations that causes them to have seizures when looking into the sky when secret military planes are spreading chem trails meant to spread alien DNA into the human gene pool.

Your reading comprehension really sucks...


First Thoughts On the Carter Page FISA Application

But Page has never been charged with anything. Accordingly, the least we can say is that Obama’s FBI and DOJ were wrong.

Second, the application’s description of Christopher Steele and the provenance of his dossier was misleading at best:

he “identified U.S. person” is Glenn Simpson, the head of Fusion GPS. Source #1 is Christopher Steele. The DOJ’s statement that “the FBI speculates that the identified U.S person [Simpson] was likely looking for information that could be used to discredit Candidate #1’s [Trump’s] campaign” could only have been an intentional effort to deceive the FISA judge.

The FBI was perfectly well aware that the Hillary Clinton campaign and the DNC hired Simpson through their lawyers, and the purpose of doing so was to attack candidate Donald Trump.

References to “speculation” about “likely” motives are entirely dishonest.

Third, the application relies to an astonishing degree on anti-Trump news stories published in the Democratic Party press. Does the FBI really get surveillance warrants on the basis of partisan press accounts? Apparently so. For example:
-----

Amazingly, the FISA application relies on “speculation in U.S. media” for the proposition that Russia was behind the phishing of DNC emails:
------

Fourth, we still don’t know who at the FBI assembled the FISA application, since that person’s signature is redacted. But we do know who approved it–hyper-partisans James Comey and Sally Yates:

That probably tells us all we need to know about the veracity of the FISA application. Perhaps one day we will learn that Peter Strzok was the Democratic Party activist who prepared the application.

What I really want to know is the identity of the judge who signed off on the surveillance of Carter Page, based on such flimsy grounds. Some are speculating that he must be from Hawaii.

No, the only thing that sucks...

Is the fact that you guys can not even remotely discuss the topic. I mean you guys get so far off topic, so quickly, it's fucking amazing.

Let me repeat a very simple thing that anyone that still thinks this is a joke needs to pay attention to.

The FBI was investigating the actions of some Russian spies who were trying to groom American assets. The FBI TOLD CARTER PAGE who they were and what they were trying to do. Carter Page fucking ignored the FBI's warning and kept cooperating with the Russian spies and even ramped up his game.

So how in the wide wide world do you think the FBI was not justified in getting a FISA warrant on Page? THEY WARNED HIM OF EXACTLY WHO AND WHAT THE GUYS WERE. Page still did his thing.

Where are you getting that Carter Page kept cooperating with Russian spies the FBI warned him about and ramping up his game?

The FISA warrant bases Page contact with Russians on none other than ....the Hillary paid for Steel dossier.

 

[Crepitus]

As we all knew, when the truth came out, the Nunes memo was total bullshit.




FBI releases Carter Page surveillance warrant documents - CNNPolitics

Note:
This is a heavily redacted version.
I guess they needed to redact the fuck out of it to remove any evidence of abuse.

Lol,

View attachment 206362

Actually even though the document is heavily redacted it shows that Source #1 was the Steel Dossier, bought and paid for by the Hillary campaign and the DNC, and proves that biased FBI agents (Stzrok) bent on attacking Trump, used it in the FISA court to illegally obtain warrants to spy on Obama's political rivals (Donald J. Trump campaign).

Exactly as we've told you.

Of course your dumb ass refuses to admit this, choosing instead to pay attention to the fake headlines the MSM pumped out in advance of this document release.

You haven't read them have you.

The listed reasons begin with Page's Russian relationships.

 

[depotoo]

And that supposed Russian (he was not) contact was paid for by the administration!

This thread is about an FBI FISA warrant on Carter Page and how it shows Nunes was trying to protect Trump through lies.

Within less than a page in this thread however, it's already been directed to being about Hillary Clinton using psychotropic drugs in children's vaccinations that causes them to have seizures when looking into the sky when secret military planes are spreading chem trails meant to spread alien DNA into the human gene pool.

Your reading comprehension really sucks...


First Thoughts On the Carter Page FISA Application

But Page has never been charged with anything. Accordingly, the least we can say is that Obama’s FBI and DOJ were wrong.

Second, the application’s description of Christopher Steele and the provenance of his dossier was misleading at best:

he “identified U.S. person” is Glenn Simpson, the head of Fusion GPS. Source #1 is Christopher Steele. The DOJ’s statement that “the FBI speculates that the identified U.S person [Simpson] was likely looking for information that could be used to discredit Candidate #1’s [Trump’s] campaign” could only have been an intentional effort to deceive the FISA judge.

The FBI was perfectly well aware that the Hillary Clinton campaign and the DNC hired Simpson through their lawyers, and the purpose of doing so was to attack candidate Donald Trump.

References to “speculation” about “likely” motives are entirely dishonest.

Third, the application relies to an astonishing degree on anti-Trump news stories published in the Democratic Party press. Does the FBI really get surveillance warrants on the basis of partisan press accounts? Apparently so. For example:
-----

Amazingly, the FISA application relies on “speculation in U.S. media” for the proposition that Russia was behind the phishing of DNC emails:
------

Fourth, we still don’t know who at the FBI assembled the FISA application, since that person’s signature is redacted. But we do know who approved it–hyper-partisans James Comey and Sally Yates:

That probably tells us all we need to know about the veracity of the FISA application. Perhaps one day we will learn that Peter Strzok was the Democratic Party activist who prepared the application.

What I really want to know is the identity of the judge who signed off on the surveillance of Carter Page, based on such flimsy grounds. Some are speculating that he must be from Hawaii.

No, the only thing that sucks...

Is the fact that you guys can not even remotely discuss the topic. I mean you guys get so far off topic, so quickly, it's fucking amazing.

Let me repeat a very simple thing that anyone that still thinks this is a joke needs to pay attention to.

The FBI was investigating the actions of some Russian spies who were trying to groom American assets. The FBI TOLD CARTER PAGE who they were and what they were trying to do. Carter Page fucking ignored the FBI's warning and kept cooperating with the Russian spies and even ramped up his game.

So how in the wide wide world do you think the FBI was not justified in getting a FISA warrant on Page? THEY WARNED HIM OF EXACTLY WHO AND WHAT THE GUYS WERE. Page still did his thing.

Where are you getting that Carter Page kept cooperating with Russian spies the FBI warned him about and ramping up his game?

The FISA warrant bases Page contact with Russians on none other than ....the Hillary paid for Steel dossier.

 

[Crepitus]

It actually was a real conspiracy set in motion by the Dems. Maybe you’re waking up? Nah, your head is too buried.

As we all knew, when the truth came out, the Nunes memo was total bullshit.




FBI releases Carter Page surveillance warrant documents - CNNPolitics

Note:
This is a heavily redacted version.
I guess they needed to redact the fuck out of it to remove any evidence of abuse.

Lol,

View attachment 206362

 

[ColonelAngus]

Obama committed treason! What a dark day that was for the planet. It was worse than Pearl Harbor!!

 

[Hellokitty]

This thread is about an FBI FISA warrant on Carter Page and how it shows Nunes was trying to protect Trump through lies.

Within less than a page in this thread however, it's already been directed to being about Hillary Clinton using psychotropic drugs in children's vaccinations that causes them to have seizures when looking into the sky when secret military planes are spreading chem trails meant to spread alien DNA into the human gene pool.

Your reading comprehension really sucks...


First Thoughts On the Carter Page FISA Application

But Page has never been charged with anything. Accordingly, the least we can say is that Obama’s FBI and DOJ were wrong.

Second, the application’s description of Christopher Steele and the provenance of his dossier was misleading at best:

he “identified U.S. person” is Glenn Simpson, the head of Fusion GPS. Source #1 is Christopher Steele. The DOJ’s statement that “the FBI speculates that the identified U.S person [Simpson] was likely looking for information that could be used to discredit Candidate #1’s [Trump’s] campaign” could only have been an intentional effort to deceive the FISA judge.

The FBI was perfectly well aware that the Hillary Clinton campaign and the DNC hired Simpson through their lawyers, and the purpose of doing so was to attack candidate Donald Trump.

References to “speculation” about “likely” motives are entirely dishonest.

Third, the application relies to an astonishing degree on anti-Trump news stories published in the Democratic Party press. Does the FBI really get surveillance warrants on the basis of partisan press accounts? Apparently so. For example:
-----

Amazingly, the FISA application relies on “speculation in U.S. media” for the proposition that Russia was behind the phishing of DNC emails:
------

Fourth, we still don’t know who at the FBI assembled the FISA application, since that person’s signature is redacted. But we do know who approved it–hyper-partisans James Comey and Sally Yates:

That probably tells us all we need to know about the veracity of the FISA application. Perhaps one day we will learn that Peter Strzok was the Democratic Party activist who prepared the application.

What I really want to know is the identity of the judge who signed off on the surveillance of Carter Page, based on such flimsy grounds. Some are speculating that he must be from Hawaii.

No, the only thing that sucks...

Is the fact that you guys can not even remotely discuss the topic. I mean you guys get so far off topic, so quickly, it's fucking amazing.

Let me repeat a very simple thing that anyone that still thinks this is a joke needs to pay attention to.

The FBI was investigating the actions of some Russian spies who were trying to groom American assets. The FBI TOLD CARTER PAGE who they were and what they were trying to do. Carter Page fucking ignored the FBI's warning and kept cooperating with the Russian spies and even ramped up his game.

So how in the wide wide world do you think the FBI was not justified in getting a FISA warrant on Page? THEY WARNED HIM OF EXACTLY WHO AND WHAT THE GUYS WERE. Page still did his thing.

You desperately need to ignore the fact that the FISA warrants were obtained illegally against American citizens.....with the okay of the leadership of the FBI and the Department of Justice, likely with the approval of the White House since an operation against the opposition party is so far outside legitimate activity that it makes the Plumbers and Watergate a nothing burger in comparison.....

They weren't obtained illegally. They followed the FISA warrant process.

Your brain is stuck on this idea it was based only based off the Steele dossier. That's fucking wrong. Page was under investigation as far back as 2013 because he didn't listen to the FBI's warnings.

Do you have any idea how rare it is that the FBI would actually warn an American citizen beforehand like this? Basically exposing that the Russian spies covers had been blown? Yet Page ignored that lifeline and even doubled down when he went to Russia and praised Russia and made anti-American statements.

... but then again Trump supporters suddenly like Russia and Putin now.

Carter Page was an FBI cooperating asset in 2013, and remained the primary FBI witness through May of 2016 throughout the duration of the Buryakov case.

 

[Crepitus]

As we all knew, when the truth came out, the Nunes memo was total bullshit.




FBI releases Carter Page surveillance warrant documents - CNNPolitics

The memo is out, you can't lie anymore...

I don't lie. It's right there in black and white kid. Proof Nunes's memo was false. The republican congress-critters are the liars in this story.

Where is the proof that Nunez's memo is false? Please quote the relevant text.

There's a link in this article to download the whole document. It clearly states the reasons for the warrents application.

Justice Department releases Carter Page FISA warrant

 

[Crepitus]

Did you miss the phrase "probable cause"?

That's a legal term with a very specific definition.

Probable Cause

There are standards that must be met far beyond "we think so".

I didn't miss that, I missed the reasons for that "probable cause" though

Read the document.

 

[Crepitus]

View attachment 206369

Like snowflakes claiming Putin bugged the soccer ball he gave Trump?!

Bwuhahahaha!

I think that was all tongue-in-cheek.

 

[depotoo]

All based on paid for fake information, which the dnc, Clinton, and the administration orchestrated.

As we all knew, when the truth came out, the Nunes memo was total bullshit.




FBI releases Carter Page surveillance warrant documents - CNNPolitics

The memo is out, you can't lie anymore...

I don't lie. It's right there in black and white kid. Proof Nunes's memo was false. The republican congress-critters are the liars in this story.

Where is the proof that Nunez's memo is false? Please quote the relevant text.

There's a link in this article to download the whole document. It clearly states the reasons for the warrents application.

Justice Department releases Carter Page FISA warrant