First it was Medicare, Then it was a movie, now it is the UE rate

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    Libs there comes a time in which you have to admit that your being lied to by the very people your supporting
    There comes a point in which ALL of us Americans no matter what our beliefs are have to face the facts
    ENOUGH
    Medicare spending has not been touched for 2013. How can we save 700 billion dollars to pay for Obamacare without cutting the budget?

    We were attacked on 9-11-2012, not anything else and brave Americans died

    Now this
    The UE rate dropping like it did today by adding a little over 100,000 jobs is such an event that is so obviously a lie, debating it is a waste of your time

    Liberals you have been conned
    There comes a time in every relationship when no matter how bad it hurts, you have to face the truth

    This is not what this country needs
    I truly am saddened to see the level of desperation and deception the leadership of the democratic party has stopped to

    Libs you have choice to make in a few weeks. This is not about W
    it is not about the rich, the poor, taxes

    It is about this country and what kind of leaders you choose to represent you
    nothing else

    What are you going to do?
     
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    By improving the way it does business, as the reforms being implemented now are doing. And Medicare spending growth is drastically slowing, surprising the bean counters at CBO.

    Note the trend since late 2009 for Medicare in Standard & Poor's health care indices:

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    To reiterate the point:

    Slower Growth in Medicare Spending — Is This the New Normal? | NEJM

    Medicare spending in surprising slowdown | UPI.com

    Washington Stuck Fighting Wrong Health-Care Battle | Bloomberg
    Bending The Health Care Cost Curve: More Than Meets The Eye? | Health Affairs Blog
     
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    Nothing will convince them. He is their Dear Leader . They believe everything that comes out of his mouth.. THey love the free stuff they get , They just forget the people work for that free stuff they get it , It is just not them.
     
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    To start with Obama care does not kick in except for tax increases until 2013
    If we can save it
    Obama should cut the spending
    There has been no budget in his entire presidency except adding 4-500 billion to Ws last one and then adding 6% each year after
     
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    And 1.1 trillion dollars printed in 2012
     
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    It amazes me that any-one really believes that Obama-care is going to somehow create millions of jobs while watching a movie that makes you attack a safe house that was suppose to be
    never mind

    If Obama-care can save 700 billion dollars in medicare then the cuts begin in the 2013 budget
     
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    No WMDs were found in Iraq during the unfunded war we fought there.
     
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    Huh? Obamacare's Medicare reforms have already begun.

    It provided the tools needed for the long-term structural reforms for getting costs under control. Common sense approaches to fixing Medicare like: (1) shift the way Medicare pays for services away from encouraging high-volume, low (or mediocre) value service provision, and (2) promote and assist health care providers in delivering better care more efficiently and less expensively, while holding them accountable for quality outcomes.

    Some examples of things that are already happening:


    They're taking a page out of the book of industry leaders like the Mayo Clinic, the Geisinger Health System, Intermountain Healthcare (which even got a shoutout from Romney in the debate!), Kaiser Permanente, etc. and spreading the model to help more people via Medicare:

    2013 indeed!
     
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    It may not be a lie, but it is highly suspect. Even if the numbers are true, the BLS explanation shows how bad it really is:

     

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