First gay group forms on U.S. military base

[High_Gravity]

Basically if this was a straight man fucking a married woman, do you think the case would have went anywhere?

I've see a case of a straight man fucking a married woman that didn't go anywhere. Lt. Cmdr was having a deployment affair, she got pissed and made waves, he was allowed to resign.

So ya, I've seen it. I think the decision not to refer to NJP or Court Martial was based on more on being an Officer then it was being a female. I think if it was an enlisted puke it would have much more likely been handled through judicial channels instead of administrative.



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Actually, if it's an E7 or better, it's handled administratively. Had an AOC that I was stationed with when I was a 2nd. He transferred to shore duty, and about a month after that, we deployed for a shakedown cruise on the USS GEORGE WASHINGTON. Came back, and found out the bastard had sent HIS wife to boot camp and A school, called me to ask if my wife was available for babysitting, and when I came back, fucker was having an affair.

Was told by the chain and legal that the only way I could have him taken to mast was if I had photographic proof. However, they did put a letter of reprimand in his service record and he never saw E-8.

He divorced his old lady while she was in boot camp and married mine about 9 months after we got divorced.

Yes, you can have people prosecuted for adultery, but it's very difficult.

Yeah you have to have actual hard proof to court martial someone for adultry but your chain of command can make your life a living hell regardless, trust me.

 

[WorldWatcher]

I've see a case of a straight man fucking a married woman that didn't go anywhere. Lt. Cmdr was having a deployment affair, she got pissed and made waves, he was allowed to resign.

So ya, I've seen it. I think the decision not to refer to NJP or Court Martial was based on more on being an Officer then it was being a female. I think if it was an enlisted puke it would have much more likely been handled through judicial channels instead of administrative.



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Actually, if it's an E7 or better, it's handled administratively. Had an AOC that I was stationed with when I was a 2nd. He transferred to shore duty, and about a month after that, we deployed for a shakedown cruise on the USS GEORGE WASHINGTON. Came back, and found out the bastard had sent HIS wife to boot camp and A school, called me to ask if my wife was available for babysitting, and when I came back, fucker was having an affair.

Was told by the chain and legal that the only way I could have him taken to mast was if I had photographic proof. However, they did put a letter of reprimand in his service record and he never saw E-8.

He divorced his old lady while she was in boot camp and married mine about 9 months after we got divorced.

Yes, you can have people prosecuted for adultery, but it's very difficult.

Yeah you have to have actual hard proof to court martial someone for adultry but your chain of command can make your life a living hell regardless, trust me.

They don't even have to make your life hell with reassignment, simply a mediocre FITREP/EVAL can be a death knell for an Officer or SNCO, a signal that we are going to let you finish your obligated service or 20 years, but after that you will need to think about being a civilian.



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[High_Gravity]

Actually, if it's an E7 or better, it's handled administratively. Had an AOC that I was stationed with when I was a 2nd. He transferred to shore duty, and about a month after that, we deployed for a shakedown cruise on the USS GEORGE WASHINGTON. Came back, and found out the bastard had sent HIS wife to boot camp and A school, called me to ask if my wife was available for babysitting, and when I came back, fucker was having an affair.

Was told by the chain and legal that the only way I could have him taken to mast was if I had photographic proof. However, they did put a letter of reprimand in his service record and he never saw E-8.

He divorced his old lady while she was in boot camp and married mine about 9 months after we got divorced.

Yes, you can have people prosecuted for adultery, but it's very difficult.

Yeah you have to have actual hard proof to court martial someone for adultry but your chain of command can make your life a living hell regardless, trust me.

They don't even have to make your life hell with reassignment, simply a mediocre FITREP/EVAL can be a death knell for an Officer or SNCO, a signal that we are going to let you finish your obligated service or 20 years, but after that you will need to think about being a civilian.



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Oh yeah theres so many things they can do, if you are junior enlisted they can send you on all the shit details and have you work weekends shredding paper, picking up trash, whatever. If you happen to pick up a good assignment, your commander can put in to have that cancelled due to needs of the mission, I have seen it happen before and it is not pretty for anyone involved.

 

[Katzndogz]

Since gay sex groups are now acceptable in the military, are swingers acceptable too? How about a Bondage Group?

 

[geauxtohell]

This new group has me wondering some thing, when I was serving at Vandenberg they were very adamant about us not fucking married women, in fact any type of adultery was frowned upon as our senior leadership were a very conservative bunch, they actually stormed this couples house on base that was hosting a swingers party and arrested all the Military members who took part and escorted the civilians off post, if I were to start a wife swapping or a swingers group on post now, would that be ok? because back when I was in they weren't having any of that, I am guessing we still can't because those damn adultery laws are still in place.

The case that ended Don't Ask Don't Tell was indeed a case of adultery. Margaret Witt, a lesbian, was involved in an adulterous affair with Laurie McChesney. The affair was exposed when McChesney's husband complained to Witt's superiors. Witt was discharged from the Air Force. She sued and eventually ended DADT.

I guess adultery is okay if it is homosexual adultery. Discharges for adulterous affairs for heterosexuals may still be done.

If she had been discharged for the affair and not the breach of DADT, you might have a point.

 

[High_Gravity]

Since gay sex groups are now acceptable in the military, are swingers acceptable too? How about a Bondage Group?

Yeah I asked the same question, if starting a wife swapping group or a swingers club on post would be acceptable, I am guessing it would not be ok because the adultery laws are still on the books, when I was serving at Vandenberg a married couple on post had a swingers party at their house and it was broken up by the Military Police on post.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Since gay sex groups are now acceptable in the military, are swingers acceptable too? How about a Bondage Group?

Yeah I asked the same question, if starting a wife swapping group or a swingers club on post would be acceptable, I am guessing it would not be ok because the adultery laws are still on the books, when I was serving at Vandenberg a married couple on post had a swingers party at their house and it was broken up by the Military Police on post.

Yo..........HG............the purpose of the gay groups is to give support to the gay servicemember and provide a liasion between forward deployed gay servicemembers and their significant others who are back home.

I think it's a good idea incidentally, because currently, gay servicemembers aren't allowed to get support services from the Ombudsman program.

 

[High_Gravity]

Since gay sex groups are now acceptable in the military, are swingers acceptable too? How about a Bondage Group?

Yeah I asked the same question, if starting a wife swapping group or a swingers club on post would be acceptable, I am guessing it would not be ok because the adultery laws are still on the books, when I was serving at Vandenberg a married couple on post had a swingers party at their house and it was broken up by the Military Police on post.

Yo..........HG............the purpose of the gay groups is to give support to the gay servicemember and provide a liasion between forward deployed gay servicemembers and their significant others who are back home.

I think it's a good idea incidentally, because currently, gay servicemembers aren't allowed to get support services from the Ombudsman program.

I didn't say it was a bad idea, but what about a support group for swingers and polyamorous couples? as it stands right now you can get in trouble for having multiple partners in the Military.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Yeah I asked the same question, if starting a wife swapping group or a swingers club on post would be acceptable, I am guessing it would not be ok because the adultery laws are still on the books, when I was serving at Vandenberg a married couple on post had a swingers party at their house and it was broken up by the Military Police on post.

Yo..........HG............the purpose of the gay groups is to give support to the gay servicemember and provide a liasion between forward deployed gay servicemembers and their significant others who are back home.

I think it's a good idea incidentally, because currently, gay servicemembers aren't allowed to get support services from the Ombudsman program.

I didn't say it was a bad idea, but what about a support group for swingers and polyamorous couples? as it stands right now you can get in trouble for having multiple partners in the Military.

Those people are already covered under the Ombudsman program, as they are spouses.

BTW...........Crusty Dogs (katzndogs) has never served, why are you on their side? Fucker knows as much about the military as Romney does.