First Elian, and Now Terri.....

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    Selective Restraint
    By John H. Fund for www.opinionjournal.com
    March 28, 2005

    Liberals cheered when Janet Reno defied the courts to seize Elian Gonzalez.

    The sad case of Terri Schiavo has raised passions not seen since five years ago. Then another bitterly divided family argued in Florida courts over someone who couldn't speak on his own behalf: Elian Gonzalez.

    In both cases, those who were unhappy with the courts' decisions strained to assert the federal government's power to produce a different outcome. The difference is that in Mrs. Schiavo's case, Congress backed off after passing a bill that merely asked a federal court to hear the case from scratch, something that U.S. District Judge James Whittemore declined to do. By contrast, those who wanted the federal government to intervene in Elian Gonzalez's case went all the way, supporting a predawn armed federal raid on the morning before Easter to seize the 6-year-old boy despite a federal appeals court's refusal to order his surrender.

    Both cases were marked with hypocrisy and political posturing galore. Both times some conservative Republicans talked about issuing subpoenas to compel the person at the center of the case to appear before Congress; they swiftly backed down when public opinion failed to support their stunt. Rep. Barney Frank, a Massachusetts Democrat, argued that by opposing Elian's return to his father in communist Cuba, conservatives were abandoning the principle that "the state should not supersede the parents' wishes." In the case of Terri Schiavo, many conservatives who normally support spousal rights decided that Michael Schiavo's decision to abandon his marital vows while at the same time refusing to divorce his wife rendered him unfit to override the wishes of his wife's parents to have her cared for.

    But liberals have gotten off easy for some of the somersaulting arguments they have made on behalf of judicial independence and states' rights to justify their position that Terri Schiavo should not be saved. Many made the opposite arguments in the Elian Gonzalez case.

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    Excellant comparison !! ( althought I'm sure the whiny " but this is different" is coming soon )
     
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    in elian's case, he at least got to live and was still fed when he returned to cuba. Terri slowly dies. The court has ordered her death by not even allowing nurses or her family to orally feed her. Thats what i truely dont get. sure take her off the machine but let her rehabilitate through manual feeding. Her husband is selfish whether through malicious intent or not.
     
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    I think whats interesting about all this is that if Christopher Reeve was treated like Terri was he would have been killed years ago.
     
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    Re: Elian

    In Florida, the Cuban-American vote, which went overwhelmingly for Clinton in '96, went just as overwhelminly for Bush in 2000. As close as that election was, a decent case can be made that Clinton's actions in the Gonzalez case - which infuriated Cuban-Americans - cost Al Gore the presidency.

    Little Elian may have done more for the cause of freedom than he'll ever know.
     
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    Reeve wasn't brain dead, he was paralyzed.
     
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    She wasn't brain dead technically either. But thats now what i mean. I meant the fact that he was using a feeding tube.
     
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    terri is brain dead..... she has no cognitive brain functions...her brain is the consitancy of spinal fluid
     
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    We will never know that for sure because an MRI and PET scans were not done on Terri. Expert doctors have testified that these tests are required before a diagnosis of PVS can be made.
     
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    Orwell and Terri Schiavo
    Rich Lowry


    http://www.townhall.com/columnists/richlowry/printrl20050328.shtml
     
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