First Civil-Union Couple Parting Ways

[dmp]

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/12/15/D8EGT8A80.html

So they are splitting because of domestic violence...lol...

Homosexual relationships are statistically MORE violent...one stat I remember from awhile back..


I'm not sad - only to the point that i'm sad those ladies are so jacked up in the head to choose a destructive lifestyle.

 

[Abbey Normal]

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/12/15/D8EGT8A80.html

So they are splitting because of domestic violence...lol...

Homosexual relationships are statistically MORE violent...one stat I remember from awhile back..


I'm not sad - only to the point that i'm sad those ladies are so jacked up in the head to choose a destructive lifestyle.

When I saw the violence charge, I guessed they were females, lol.

 

[KarlMarx]

Well... it was bound to happen, the first gay couple that had were recognized by Vermont's "civil-union" law are calling it quits.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051215/ap_on_re_us/vermont_civil_union

Interestingly, the reason for the split is domestic violence (the couple are both women).

So far, 78 unions out of 7,000+ have dissolved. That's a 1% mortality rate for 5 years. Just wait, my prediction... these couples will have at least a 50% "divorce" rate, which is the same as the divorce rate as the rest of society. It may eventually be even higher.

So much for the argument that gay marriage will save the institution of marriage.

Am I surprised? No. Domestic violence amongst lesbians is not a widely discussed topic. For obvious reasons, first, the NOW wants us all to believe that MEN are supposed to be oppressors and the wife beaters. And secondly, gays don't have the same problems as straights.

Now, for the next act, the gay divorce. If you think straight divorce is nasty, gay divorce won't be an improvement. After all, when it comes to property and matters of money, everyone has the same orientation.

P.S. Am I gloating? Yes, I am. Because once again, the Left is going to be proven wrong. No surprise here. The Left can screw up a one car funeral.

 

[The ClayTaurus]

Well... it was bound to happen, the first gay couple that had were recognized by Vermont's "civil-union" law are calling it quits.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051215/ap_on_re_us/vermont_civil_union

Interestingly, the reason for the split is domestic violence (the couple are both women).

So far, 78 unions out of 7,000+ have dissolved. That's a 1% mortality rate for 5 years. Just wait, my prediction... these couples will have at least a 50% "divorce" rate, which is the same as the divorce rate as the rest of society. It may eventually be even higher.

So much for the argument that gay marriage will save the institution of marriage.

Am I surprised? No. Domestic violence amongst lesbians is not a widely discussed topic. For obvious reasons, first, the NOW wants us all to believe that MEN are supposed to be oppressors and the wife beaters. And secondly, gays don't have the same problems as straights.

Now, for the next act, the gay divorce. If you think straight divorce is nasty, gay divorce won't be an improvement. After all, when it comes to property and matters of money, everyone has the same orientation.

P.S. Am I gloating? Yes, I am. Because once again, the Left is going to be proven wrong. No surprise here. The Left can screw up a one car funeral.

You're gloating a bit pre-maturely, in my opinion.

 

[Yurt]

If you are gloating, then more power to you if you makes you sleep better at night. Though I do not see you as gloating. This issue, to me, seems more the fact that these "gay" marriages are really no different than heterosexual marriage. Wait. Save for the gender thing. And wait, no kids.

Other than that, they have what all other people in this country have:

A contract for marriage.

You have no moral rights in most states (like CA that is a no fault state). When broken down into simply "contractual" terms, this news does not surprise me as I know a relative who had this happen to her without "marriage." Abuse is human. Male, female, it is human. Let us not make this out to be anything other than it is:

two people going their separate ways

Am I degrading church marriages? Am I degrading Las Vegas marriages between two people, male/female, sober or not? No. Simply that SH*t happens no matter your oreintation. No matter you sinful nature, for the earth is abound with bad acts happening to all people.

In the end, only God knows our hearts and soul.

In a secular tone, this is not surprising, especially if you know gay men, for violence readily exists, though no one wants to admit it. No, I am not gay. However, that does not negate my knowledge. And it does not mean that gay women are more violent, simply means there is violence in relationships. Period.

 

[KarlMarx]

the fact is that once the gay divorces start.... you won't be able to tell the gays from the straights....

another attempt by the Left to reinvent society is about to be hoisted onto the dung heap of history...

Premature? Maybe.... only time will tell, but I also believe that time will prove me right.

 

[MissileMan]

the fact is that once the gay divorces start.... you won't be able to tell the gays from the straights....

another attempt by the Left to reinvent society is about to be hoisted onto the dung heap of history...

Premature? Maybe.... only time will tell, but I also believe that time will prove me right.

Right about what? That gays are human just like heterosexuals and will likely wind up with similar marital statistics? Wow! You're a seer of magnificent power...a regular Nostradamus.

 

[KarlMarx]

Right about what? That gays are human just like heterosexuals and will likely wind up with similar marital statistics? Wow! You're a seer of magnificent power...a regular Nostradamus.

I think that when it's all said and done, gay marriage will turn out to be a major fiasco.... the divorce rate will be higher, the domestic violence, something will go wrong... that's what I'm trying to say....

When you try to reinvent society, it doesn't work. Society changes on its own, at its own pace... trying to make it fit your worldview just doesn't work...

 

[The ClayTaurus]

I think that when it's all said and done, gay marriage will turn out to be a major fiasco.... the divorce rate will be higher, the domestic violence, something will go wrong... that's what I'm trying to say....

When you try to reinvent society, it doesn't work. Society changes on its own, at its own pace... trying to make it fit your worldview just doesn't work...

What falls under the category of society changing on it's own?

 

[Abbey Normal]

What falls under the category of society changing on it's own?

Something like this: The right to gay marriage becomes law, because it is voted into law by a majority of the people, rather than dictated by a few activist judges who are not in tune with the majority.

 

[The ClayTaurus]

Something like this: The right to gay marriage becomes law, because it is voted into law by a majority of the people, rather than dictated by a few activist judges who are not in tune with the majority.

You think that the method of legalizing gay marriage plays into the long term success of it? That is, if gay marriage were to be approved in the appropriate manner, that it wouldn't turn into a debacle?

 

[KarlMarx]

What falls under the category of society changing on it's own?

Society changes in response to technology... e.g. people travel more because of the invention of trains, planes and autos, farmers become more productive, medicines help people live longer...

Society changes in response to the economy... women go into the work place for economic reasons, our economy shifts from a manufacturing to a service oriented one...

In other words, situations change, and people adapt to them. People adapting to change is society changing at its own pace.

On the other hand, Communism was an attempt to reinvent society. They tried to abolish religion, they tried to control every aspect of the economy... some things just can't be changed at will..

Trying to redefine marriage and the family, I believe, is just like the Communist attempt to reinvent society and doomed to the same fate... disaster...

 

[MissileMan]

Something like this: The right to gay marriage becomes law, because it is voted into law by a majority of the people, rather than dictated by a few activist judges who are not in tune with the majority.

And I'll ask the question again. When was the right to heterosexual marriage voted for by the majority of the people?

 

[KarlMarx]

And I'll ask the question again. When was the right to heterosexual marriage voted for by the majority of the people?

The 10th amendment of the United States Constitution gives states the power to vote on those rights not specifically stated in the Constitution. That means that States have the right to define marriage and regulate it --- by the power of the people, either through a direct voter referendum (as in the case a few years ago when California voters voted down a proposal to allow gay marriage in that state), or through the legislative branch of each state.

 

[Abbey Normal]

You think that the method of legalizing gay marriage plays into the long term success of it? That is, if gay marriage were to be approved in the appropriate manner, that it wouldn't turn into a debacle?

I think that people are more likely to accept that which is the will of the majority, than that which if forced upon them by a small group of people usurping their power.

Whether gay unions or marriage are ever fully accepted by most Americans at the level that gays want it to be is debatable. I don't have a crystal ball.

 

[Abbey Normal]

And I'll ask the question again. When was the right to heterosexual marriage voted for by the majority of the people?

The institution of marriage predates our Constitution, by, oh, a few years. Some things are so ancient, natural and accepted, that they are a part of history. We didn't have to vote for the right to have children, either.

 

[MissileMan]

The institution of marriage predates our Constitution, by, oh, a few years. Some things are so ancient, natural and accepted, that they are a part of history. We didn't have to vote for the right to have children, either.

I understand that. But I don't understand the argument that gay marriage must be added to the Constitution when heterosexual marriage isn't a part of it.

 

[William Joyce]

Trying to redefine marriage and the family, I believe, is just like the Communist attempt to reinvent society and doomed to the same fate... disaster...

Yep.

But the sad part is that lots of human misery and death is visited upon us before evil ideas like communism, socialism and multiculturalism collapse of their own unsupportable weight. The right can be violent, but the left has done way more damage in human history.

 

[Max Power]

Something like this: The right to gay marriage becomes law, because it is voted into law by a majority of the people, rather than dictated by a few activist judges who are not in tune with the majority.

I'm curious, but what would you think if the majority of people decided that Abbey Normal shouldn't be allowed to get married?

 

[Abbey Normal]

I'm curious, but what would you think if the majority of people decided that Abbey Normal shouldn't be allowed to get married?

I'd say they are too late.