fires

[Old Rocks]

Picture of one near Cle Elum in Waahington. Still burning beyond this.

Over 1600 sq. miles burned in southeastern Oregon, in just two fires, and one of those fires is still going. Record fires in New Mexico and Colorado this year, also.

But, nothing to see here folks.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

here in florida, after months of drought, two june tss, and rain almost everyday in ne florida, still flooding in suwaneee, columbia, dixie, etc.

one of the primary predictions of global warming is that the weather swings will be wider and wilder, with an overall warming. And this scientist explains the why of that very well;

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtrvcxuiyzg]weather and climate summit - day 5, jennifer francis - youtube[/ame]

you're a fucking liar!

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Picture of one near Cle Elum in Waahington. Still burning beyond this.

Over 1600 sq. miles burned in southeastern Oregon, in just two fires, and one of those fires is still going. Record fires in New Mexico and Colorado this year, also.

But, nothing to see here folks.

I see Mann's Dirty laundry and altered and destroyed data

You think CO2 causes forest fires? Are you THAT fucking stupid?

 

[Old Rocks]

Just so we're clear on this -- most ALL those fires have known causes.. A construction crew, An ATV, and lots of Bolts of Lightning from the gods..

Wildfires blaze across West, threaten Idaho communities | Reuters

The Trinity Ridge fire that threatens Featherville and Pine erupted after a utility terrain vehicle caught fire on August 3. Strong winds sent flames racing across parched grasslands and sagebrush and into tinder-dry pine forests, federal fire information officer Brandon Hampton

In San Diego County, five lightning-sparked fires blackened more than 9,000 acres in and around Anza-Borrego Desert State Park said.

Since Sunday, California's biggest fire, ignited by lightning, had burned nearly 100,000 acres (40,468 acres) on Bureau of Land Management property in Northern California's Lassen County and threatened a major natural gas line and transfer station and power transmission lines that supply the Reno area, said Deb Schweizer, a fire information officer.

Another lightning-sparked fire has burned 24,000 acres of park and forest land in Lassen Volcanic National Park since late July, forcing the closing of a highway and campgrounds and threatening 148 homes and 50 commercial properties, said Jay Nichols, spokesman for the California Interagency Incident Command Team.

In Washington state, firefighters battling the destructive 28,000-acre (11,331-hectare) Taylor Bridge Fire between the northwest towns of Cle Elum and Ellensburg were aided by a shift in winds and able to contain 25 percent of the blaze by Wednesday morning.

Incident commander Rex Reed said Wednesday marked "a good day" for firefighters working against a blaze that has already gutted 60 homes and a number of other structures since it erupted on Monday afternoon at a construction site near Cle Elum, about 70 miles southeast of Seattle.

So there it is --- it's nature destroying itself... Some blue-green globe needs PROZAC!!!

Once again, Flatulance, you are one dumb fuck. The number of very large, intense fires have increased dramatically in the last two decades as alternate wetter and drier than normal years have increased the fuel load, and created conditons that did not exist in prior years. Add to that the abnormal night time temperatures and wind behavior, and you have the reason for the increase in fire sizes and intensity.

Normal fire behavior in the high desert is for the fires to run in long streaks, dying down at night, because of cold temperatures and less wind, and running in the daytime. This behaviour of burning hundreds of square miles at a time is new behavior, seldom seen before. The differance in intensity is on the order of magnitudes, the last fire in the Long Draw area took four days to cross one of the larger ranchs in the area, and the rancher had time to move his herds. This time, it crossed his ranch in four hours, and he lost one third of his herd. This fire, and the presently burning Holloway fire not only did not die down at night, it was just as active then as in the day.

 

[Old Rocks]

here in florida, after months of drought, two june tss, and rain almost everyday in ne florida, still flooding in suwaneee, columbia, dixie, etc.

one of the primary predictions of global warming is that the weather swings will be wider and wilder, with an overall warming. And this scientist explains the why of that very well;

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtrvcxuiyzg]weather and climate summit - day 5, jennifer francis - youtube[/ame]

you're a fucking liar!

Frankie Boy, you are a bit retarded, and the object of pity for most of the rest of us.

 

[westwall]

Just so we're clear on this -- most ALL those fires have known causes.. A construction crew, An ATV, and lots of Bolts of Lightning from the gods..

Wildfires blaze across West, threaten Idaho communities | Reuters

The Trinity Ridge fire that threatens Featherville and Pine erupted after a utility terrain vehicle caught fire on August 3. Strong winds sent flames racing across parched grasslands and sagebrush and into tinder-dry pine forests, federal fire information officer Brandon Hampton

In San Diego County, five lightning-sparked fires blackened more than 9,000 acres in and around Anza-Borrego Desert State Park said.

Since Sunday, California's biggest fire, ignited by lightning, had burned nearly 100,000 acres (40,468 acres) on Bureau of Land Management property in Northern California's Lassen County and threatened a major natural gas line and transfer station and power transmission lines that supply the Reno area, said Deb Schweizer, a fire information officer.

Another lightning-sparked fire has burned 24,000 acres of park and forest land in Lassen Volcanic National Park since late July, forcing the closing of a highway and campgrounds and threatening 148 homes and 50 commercial properties, said Jay Nichols, spokesman for the California Interagency Incident Command Team.

In Washington state, firefighters battling the destructive 28,000-acre (11,331-hectare) Taylor Bridge Fire between the northwest towns of Cle Elum and Ellensburg were aided by a shift in winds and able to contain 25 percent of the blaze by Wednesday morning.

Incident commander Rex Reed said Wednesday marked "a good day" for firefighters working against a blaze that has already gutted 60 homes and a number of other structures since it erupted on Monday afternoon at a construction site near Cle Elum, about 70 miles southeast of Seattle.

So there it is --- it's nature destroying itself... Some blue-green globe needs PROZAC!!!

Just so we're clear on this -- most ALL those fires have known causes.. A construction crew, An ATV, and lots of Bolts of Lightning from the gods, Manns tree rings and manmade global warming.

There, AGW reviewed

I have reviewed your review of the review and I find it compelling. We have achieved CONSENSUS!

 

[westwall]

Just so we're clear on this -- most ALL those fires have known causes.. A construction crew, An ATV, and lots of Bolts of Lightning from the gods..

Wildfires blaze across West, threaten Idaho communities | Reuters

The Trinity Ridge fire that threatens Featherville and Pine erupted after a utility terrain vehicle caught fire on August 3. Strong winds sent flames racing across parched grasslands and sagebrush and into tinder-dry pine forests, federal fire information officer Brandon Hampton

In San Diego County, five lightning-sparked fires blackened more than 9,000 acres in and around Anza-Borrego Desert State Park said.

Since Sunday, California's biggest fire, ignited by lightning, had burned nearly 100,000 acres (40,468 acres) on Bureau of Land Management property in Northern California's Lassen County and threatened a major natural gas line and transfer station and power transmission lines that supply the Reno area, said Deb Schweizer, a fire information officer.

Another lightning-sparked fire has burned 24,000 acres of park and forest land in Lassen Volcanic National Park since late July, forcing the closing of a highway and campgrounds and threatening 148 homes and 50 commercial properties, said Jay Nichols, spokesman for the California Interagency Incident Command Team.

In Washington state, firefighters battling the destructive 28,000-acre (11,331-hectare) Taylor Bridge Fire between the northwest towns of Cle Elum and Ellensburg were aided by a shift in winds and able to contain 25 percent of the blaze by Wednesday morning.

Incident commander Rex Reed said Wednesday marked "a good day" for firefighters working against a blaze that has already gutted 60 homes and a number of other structures since it erupted on Monday afternoon at a construction site near Cle Elum, about 70 miles southeast of Seattle.

So there it is --- it's nature destroying itself... Some blue-green globe needs PROZAC!!!

Once again, Flatulance, you are one dumb fuck. The number of very large, intense fires have increased dramatically in the last two decades as alternate wetter and drier than normal years have increased the fuel load, and created conditons that did not exist in prior years. Add to that the abnormal night time temperatures and wind behavior, and you have the reason for the increase in fire sizes and intensity.

Normal fire behavior in the high desert is for the fires to run in long streaks, dying down at night, because of cold temperatures and less wind, and running in the daytime. This behaviour of burning hundreds of square miles at a time is new behavior, seldom seen before. The differance in intensity is on the order of magnitudes, the last fire in the Long Draw area took four days to cross one of the larger ranchs in the area, and the rancher had time to move his herds. This time, it crossed his ranch in four hours, and he lost one third of his herd. This fire, and the presently burning Holloway fire not only did not die down at night, it was just as active then as in the day.

My gosh but you are a complete jackass. Try looking up the great prairie fires of the 1800's when they burned across entire states. Oh, I forgot, your hemp addled brain doesn't understand anythaing (sp) that happened more than 30 years ago.

 

[Old Rocks]

http://www.forestsandrangelands.gov/strategy/documents/reports/2_ReportToCongress03172011.pdf

Wildland fire management across all lands and jurisdictions in the United States involves a complex matrix of fuel
types, climate considerations, mission goals, policies, land and resource values, social concerns, and costs. None
of these issues are new. However, because each of these elements — individually and collectively — is dynamic,
the fire community is continually adapting and evolving to meet the challenges posed by wildland fire.
The past two decades have seen a rapid escalation of extreme fire behavior, increased risk to responders, home
and property losses, higher costs, and increased threats to communities and landscapes. These trends call for a
broad-based, collaborative and cohesive response to better address these mounting challenges. Congress, the
fire community, and the public have recognized a need for a new strategy, a new path forward, and perhaps a new
way of thinking about wildland fire.

 

[westwall]

Here in Florida, after months of drought, two JUNE TSs, and rain almost everyday in NE Florida, still flooding in Suwaneee, Columbia, Dixie, etc.

One of the primary predictions of global warming is that the weather swings will be wider and wilder, with an overall warming. And this scientist explains the why of that very well;

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtRvcXUIyZg]Weather and Climate Summit - Day 5, Jennifer Francis - YouTube[/ame]

I love her pose ,"no officer I have no weapons...yes, I am coming peacefully, no, there is no need to TASER me".

 

[Old Rocks]

Spoken like a true dumb fuck, Walleyes. Professor Francis is a real scientist, something you will never be.

 

[westwall]

Spoken like a true dumb fuck, Walleyes. Professor Francis is a real scientist, something you will never be.

Yes she is. But she's not a climatologist, in fact her BS was in....horror of horrors, METEOROLOGY, holy shit Batman she is not qualified to speak on any climatology subject because she has no degree in climatology!

I'm just following your clowns rules.

 

[RollingThunder]

here in florida, after months of drought, two june tss, and rain almost everyday in ne florida, still flooding in suwaneee, columbia, dixie, etc.

one of the primary predictions of global warming is that the weather swings will be wider and wilder, with an overall warming. And this scientist explains the why of that very well;

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtrvcxuiyzg]weather and climate summit - day 5, jennifer francis - youtube[/ame]

you're a fucking liar!

no, you're just a fucking retard!!!

 

[Old Rocks]

Spoken like a true dumb fuck, Walleyes. Professor Francis is a real scientist, something you will never be.

Yes she is. But she's not a climatologist, in fact her BS was in....horror of horrors, METEOROLOGY, holy shit Batman she is not qualified to speak on any climatology subject because she has no degree in climatology!

I'm just following your clowns rules.

LOL. Professor Francis was addressing a meeting of meteoroligists on meteorology. And what she was presenting was well within her field of expertise. Again, unlike you, she is a real scientist.

 

[westwall]

Spoken like a true dumb fuck, Walleyes. Professor Francis is a real scientist, something you will never be.

Yes she is. But she's not a climatologist, in fact her BS was in....horror of horrors, METEOROLOGY, holy shit Batman she is not qualified to speak on any climatology subject because she has no degree in climatology!

I'm just following your clowns rules.

LOL. Professor Francis was addressing a meeting of meteoroligists on meteorology. And what she was presenting was well within her field of expertise. Again, unlike you, she is a real scientist.

According to you clowns as she is not a climatologist she is not qualified to have an opinion on any climatology subject.

Your rules, just pointing them out to you like you do whenever we share the opinion of other scientists who happen to not be climatologists.

 

[Old Rocks]

ln other words, no answer for the information she is presenting.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

AGW

Alter data

Destroy data

Point to any weather even and say, "See that! AGW at work"

It's not science, folks

 

[CrusaderFrank]

here's an experiment.

Take dried grass and a book of matches in a tank.

Keep adding CO2 until the grass or matches burst into flame and you've confirmed Old Rocks theory that AGW starts forest fires

 

[tjvh]

62 fires in Washington, Idaho, Nevada, Oregon, and California. One already covering nearly 700 square miles. And the high pressure just seems stuck. More heat for another 5 days, at least, and some dry lightning storms predicted for the South Cascades.

Just as predicted by climate scientists over two decades ago.

Here's a somewhat more recent but very accurate prediction of what is happening now from nine years ago.

Early Warning Signs of Global Warming: Droughts and Fires
Union of Concerned Scientists
Nov 10, 2003
(excerpt)

Warmer global temperatures are expected to cause an intensification of the hydrologic cycle, with increased evaporation over both land and water. The higher evaporation rates will lead to greater drying of soils and vegetation, especially during the warm season. Climate models also project changes in the distribution and timing of rainfall. The combination of a decrease in summer rainfall and increased evaporation will lead to more severe and longer-lasting droughts in some areas. Increasing drought frequency has the potential to affect land-based natural and managed ecosystems, coastal systems, and both freshwater quality and quantity. Increasing drought frequency also has the potential to increase the likelihood of wildfires.


And here's something especially for the denier cult retards who like to smear an eminent and much honored climate scientist, Dr.James Hansen, and claim that climate science predictions from the 1980's were false. LOL. The only 'false-ness' in those predictions is that they were largely underestimating how fast climate change would happen and how bad things would get by now.

Droughts show global warming is 'scientific fact'
NASA researcher's study 'reframes the question,' UVic professor says
The Associated Press
Posted: Aug 4, 2012
(excerpt)

In a landmark 1988 study, Hansen predicted that if greenhouse gas emissions continue, which they have, Washington, D.C., would have about nine days each year of 35 C or warmer in the decade of the 2010s. So far this year, with about four more weeks of summer, the city has had 23 days with the temperature reaching at least 35 C.

You don't think it is partly due to the Forest Services active policies of extinguishing fires immediately rather than allow Forests to exist naturally, and burn off dead vegetation through acts of God such as lightning strikes? No... It's gotta be Man made Global Warming... Sure thing.

 

[Luissa]

On another note at least 70 homes have burned in the Taylor Ridge fire near Cle elum. We also have another fire near Elmer Center, and the weather is only going to get hotter the next few days.

 

[tjvh]

62 fires in Washington, Idaho, Nevada, Oregon, and California. One already covering nearly 700 square miles. And the high pressure just seems stuck. More heat for another 5 days, at least, and some dry lightning storms predicted for the South Cascades.

My carbon footprint is to blame.