Finally getting serious about HB-1

[Windship]

As long as we have vacancies in skilled positions, we need immigrants to fill them. Thousands of positions remain unfilled month after month because applicants haven't the skills, education or experience for minimum performance.

Bull shit. Just plain old propaganda.

Where's the link? Illegals drive down wages, drive down benefits, increase the number of hours to be worked, illegals break unions, ad to tax base insufficiency. They dont want to assimilate or speak our language and we already have plenty of people to take the jobs if the illegals havent had wages declining for the last 45 years. You, like millions of others just dont get it or are profiting from it. Your beliefs just dump on Americans. Do some research then come back. Hib visas and all of the work visas only screw America while catering to the rich.

 

[Al Azar]

We spend more than our counterparts. The problem isn't funding. I wouldn't expect you to understand the problem though based on this post.

Right. 35 students, 10 textbooks and the teacher has to supply pencils and paper out of his salary. Hey, if they want to learn, they'll learn.

Right?

 

[Windship]

Wheres your link???

 

[Al Azar]

America's persistent problem: Not enough skilled workers

 

[jasonnfree]

As long as we have vacancies in skilled positions, we need immigrants to fill them. Thousands of positions remain unfilled month after month because applicants haven't the skills, education or experience for minimum performance.

That is hogwash because if there are vacancies that need to be filled then companies can simply pay more for the job. That should get more people to apply.

So letting the employer determine fair compensation unilaterally doesn't work?

Welcome to the world of organized labor. We've been waiting for you.

I wasn't making a statement about compensation dynamics. I was pointing out that we don't have enough qualified people. Four out of five applicants for skilled positions don't have the necessary training nor background to land the job. When none of the ones left are suitable or desirable, the position remains unfilled, and there are too many of those. There are too few qualified people in our workforce for the number of skilled positions available.

We can either hold ourselves back as the world advances by limiting the skilled labor pool employers can draw from, or we can hire qualified people to make our country competitive, no matter where they hail from.

That's our choice.

Companies fire qualified Americans to bring in lower wage workers all the time. If the fired workers don't first train the newly hired visa holders, they don't get severance package. One link below

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/04/u...off-at-disney-train-foreign-replacements.html

 

[Al Azar]

As long as we have vacancies in skilled positions, we need immigrants to fill them. Thousands of positions remain unfilled month after month because applicants haven't the skills, education or experience for minimum performance.

That is hogwash because if there are vacancies that need to be filled then companies can simply pay more for the job. That should get more people to apply.

So letting the employer determine fair compensation unilaterally doesn't work?

Welcome to the world of organized labor. We've been waiting for you.

I wasn't making a statement about compensation dynamics. I was pointing out that we don't have enough qualified people. Four out of five applicants for skilled positions don't have the necessary training nor background to land the job. When none of the ones left are suitable or desirable, the position remains unfilled, and there are too many of those. There are too few qualified people in our workforce for the number of skilled positions available.

We can either hold ourselves back as the world advances by limiting the skilled labor pool employers can draw from, or we can hire qualified people to make our country competitive, no matter where they hail from.

That's our choice.

Companies fire qualified Americans to bring in lower wage workers all the time. If the fired workers don't first train the newly hired visa holders, they don't get severance package. One link below

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/04/u...off-at-disney-train-foreign-replacements.html

Some employers may be exploiting the HB-1 program to the disadvantage of their employees, but when when do employers not take advantage of their employees when they see an opening?

The problem isn't the HB-1 program; the problem is a non-union employer whom employees choose to work for anyway. In the case presented about Disney, the workers who thought it was a good idea to go bare without union representation are not blameless. It was avoidable.

 

[jasonnfree]

As long as we have vacancies in skilled positions, we need immigrants to fill them. Thousands of positions remain unfilled month after month because applicants haven't the skills, education or experience for minimum performance.

That is hogwash because if there are vacancies that need to be filled then companies can simply pay more for the job. That should get more people to apply.

So letting the employer determine fair compensation unilaterally doesn't work?

Welcome to the world of organized labor. We've been waiting for you.

I wasn't making a statement about compensation dynamics. I was pointing out that we don't have enough qualified people. Four out of five applicants for skilled positions don't have the necessary training nor background to land the job. When none of the ones left are suitable or desirable, the position remains unfilled, and there are too many of those. There are too few qualified people in our workforce for the number of skilled positions available.

We can either hold ourselves back as the world advances by limiting the skilled labor pool employers can draw from, or we can hire qualified people to make our country competitive, no matter where they hail from.

That's our choice.

Companies fire qualified Americans to bring in lower wage workers all the time. If the fired workers don't first train the newly hired visa holders, they don't get severance package. One link below

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/04/u...off-at-disney-train-foreign-replacements.html

Some employers may be exploiting the HB-1 program to the disadvantage of their employees, but when when do employers not take advantage of their employees when they see an opening?

The problem isn't the HB-1 program; the problem is a non-union employer whom employees choose to work for anyway. In the case presented about Disney, the workers who thought it was a good idea to go bare without union representation are not blameless. It was avoidable.

Tech workers aren't usually unionized anyway. If workers can be brought in from all over the globe to compete with Americans, then it's probably all over for future Americans to have decent jobs with benefits. A clinton preisident won't put a stop to this, and will probably drastically increase the visa programs. Someone just needs to drag a roll of hundred dollar bills across the carpet and she'll follow them home. Hopefully, Trump might do something about it though. Strange, a billionaire republican being stronger on workers pay than a demorat.

 

[Al Azar]

As long as we have vacancies in skilled positions, we need immigrants to fill them. Thousands of positions remain unfilled month after month because applicants haven't the skills, education or experience for minimum performance.

That is hogwash because if there are vacancies that need to be filled then companies can simply pay more for the job. That should get more people to apply.

So letting the employer determine fair compensation unilaterally doesn't work?

Welcome to the world of organized labor. We've been waiting for you.

I wasn't making a statement about compensation dynamics. I was pointing out that we don't have enough qualified people. Four out of five applicants for skilled positions don't have the necessary training nor background to land the job. When none of the ones left are suitable or desirable, the position remains unfilled, and there are too many of those. There are too few qualified people in our workforce for the number of skilled positions available.

We can either hold ourselves back as the world advances by limiting the skilled labor pool employers can draw from, or we can hire qualified people to make our country competitive, no matter where they hail from.

That's our choice.

Companies fire qualified Americans to bring in lower wage workers all the time. If the fired workers don't first train the newly hired visa holders, they don't get severance package. One link below

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/04/u...off-at-disney-train-foreign-replacements.html

Some employers may be exploiting the HB-1 program to the disadvantage of their employees, but when when do employers not take advantage of their employees when they see an opening?

The problem isn't the HB-1 program; the problem is a non-union employer whom employees choose to work for anyway. In the case presented about Disney, the workers who thought it was a good idea to go bare without union representation are not blameless. It was avoidable.

Tech workers aren't usually unionized anyway.

That's not up to you, their employer, or the Republican Party. It's entirely up to them. If they get tired of being doormats, some of the stronger among them might actually do something about it.