Fighting The Wrong War

Discussion in 'Middle East - General' started by NATO AIR, Jan 7, 2005.

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    The point is clear, at the price of the war we are fighting now in Iraq, the defense secretary is preparing for future wars. this has never been done before, and for good reason, as it has made our efforts in iraq more difficult and placed a heavier, undue burden on our military forces there.

    interesting to say the least. this criticism is not from the left or the anti-war crowd, its from the pro-iraq war, pro-bush weekly standard.

     
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    The United States is fighting the war in Iraq the wrong way. The conventional generals in the military think that they can win this fight conventionally. They focus on combat operations, patrols and destroying insurgents. This war is an unconventional war where intelligence and special forces units would be better suited to deal with the insurgency. The regular military should work on closing the borders with Syria and Iran and let the experts handle the rest. Then we wouldn't have to be apologizing for bombing the wrong targets.
     
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    Historically, war planning has always changed as wars progress and I think this change is already occuring here. There a SO many factors to take into consideration that change can't always occur as quickly as we would like. I think we a starting to see a willingness to reassess stategy which gives me hope. Critics need to suggest better options rather than merely be arm chair critics.
     
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    From the article:
    Isn't military policy subject to the approval of the commander in chief? Is Rumsfeld accountable for this, or doesn't the president have to sign off on it too, and thus bear responsibility along with secretary Rumsfeld? It would be different if Rumsfeld and Bush were saying different things but thy seem to be pretty united in their opinions on how to fight the war in Iraq. They have both maintained that present US policy is not the problem.

    From the beginning, experts had been asking for more troops. With the elections going on, we are sending 12,000 more IIRC, while most feel we need atleast 10 times that number in the area. The pentagon has kept troops there longer and deployed new forces there early to make up some of the difference without actually having to recruit more soldiers. Still, this is less than most say is needed. Rumsfeld can be held accountable for this IMO. The journalist writing this article is correct in pinning this part on Rumsfeld.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A2565-2004Nov21.html
    http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/10/05/bremer.rumsfeld/
    www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A23381-2004Dec23.html

    He spent most of his budget trying to get the army ready for the next century before the war in Iraq. People told him to divert funds into more ground troops but that would have taken funds from this project. A little spent at the beginning could have saved billions that we are spending now to get the Sunni insurgency under control.

    Suffice it to say I'm no a fan of Rummy. Saddam and him certainly seem to be good friends though. They even had their picture taken together. They both look so happy, and were said to have nothing but praise for each other.

    http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/
    http://globalsecurity.com/weapons_of/rumsfeld_backed.htm
     

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