Fifty-seven percent (57%) now disapprove

The way Rasmussen Reports conducts a poll based upon a sample of likely voters those who may be more informed on the issues


Want to know why conservatives love Rasmussen approval polls? Because Rasmussen gives them numbers that make Obama look bad.

Want to know why Rasmussen's numbers make Obama look bad?

Because they poll more Republicans than anyone else. :lol:

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Imagine that!!


Your graph does not prove your contention, in fact all it proves is that others OVER SAMPLE Democrats and that would be why his numbers are better with them. Thanks for proving it for us.


Huh?

There ARE many MORE Democrats in this country of ours than republicans....THAT'S A FACT dearest.
 
so, it's a tie, according to all polling combine...

Obama's approval 47.9%
Obama's disapproval 47.9%
 
And the prove is in the pudding, you lying asshole.

I supported Bush's efforts to go after bin Laden and al Qaeda in Afghanistan. But the minute Iraq appeared in his gun sights, I became very, very skeptical. And ALL my suspicions were proven true. The invasion of Iraq had nothing to do with who attacked us on 911. Where is YOUR outrage that over 4,000 American sons and daughter's died and a hundred thousand Iraqi's died? What was their crime, living in a country with a dictator that threatened Bush's daddy?

Your idea of supporting our troops is grabbing a casket handle. Fuck YOU you scummy little slime ball.

Another lie by the left. Bush NEVER claimed Iraq had anything what so ever to do with 9/11. EVER. In fact he repeated over and over Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. When will you lying cocksuckers stop with this bald faced lie?

As for Iraq we went because Saddam Hussein was a threat, proven by the documents we captured after the Invasion. He was bribing France, Russia and China to get him off sanctions, something the French hoped would happen by the end of the year we finally invaded. Saddam Hussein was set to return to mass production of chemical and biological weapons. he was set to return to research on obtaining a nuclear weapon. He illegally maintained the materials test equipment and scientists along with production facilities to do JUST that. All he was waiting for was sanctions to be lifted.

And need I remind your stupid ass that EVERYONE believed he had chemical weapons. EVERYONE. Including his own Generals. He either shipped them out or carried on a big lie that got him killed.

We had justification to invade and I believe we did the right thing given the facts we know now.

George W. Bush

2002

"The regime has longstanding and continuing ties to terrorist groups, and there are Al Qaida terrorists inside Iraq." - George W. Bush Delivers Weekly Radio Address, White House (9/28/2002) - BushOnIraq.com

"We know that Iraq and al Qaeda have had high-level contacts that go back a decade. Some al Qaeda leaders who fled Afghanistan went to Iraq. These include one very senior al Qaeda leader who received medical treatment in Baghdad this year, and who has been associated with planning for chemical and biological attacks. We've learned that Iraq has trained al Qaeda members in bomb-making and poisons and deadly gases." - President Bush Outlines Iraqi Threat; Remarks by the President on Iraq, White House (10/7/2002) - Whitehouse.gov

"I think they're both equally important, and they're both dangerous. And as I said in my speech in Cincinnati, we will fight if need be the war on terror on two fronts. We've got plenty of capacity to do so. And I also mentioned the fact that there is a connection between al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein. The war on terror, Iraq is a part on the war on terror. And he must disarm." - President Condems Attack in Bali, White House (10/14/2002) - Whitehouse.gov

"This is a man who has got connections with Al Qaida. Imagine a terrorist network with Iraq as an arsenal and as a training ground, so that a Saddam Hussein could use this shadowy group of people to attack his enemy and leave no fingerprint behind. He's a threat." - Remarks by the President in Texas Welcome, White House (11/4/2002) - Whitehouse.gov

"He's a threat because he is dealing with Al Qaida. In my Cincinnati speech I reminded the American people, a true threat facing our country is that an Al Qaida-type network trained and armed by Saddam could attack America and leave not one fingerprint." - President Outlines Priorities, White House (11/7/2002) - BushOnIraq.gov

"He's had contacts with Al Qaida. Imagine the scenario where an Al Qaida-type organization uses Iraq as an arsenal, a place to get weapons, a place to be trained to use the weapons. Saddam Hussein could use surrogates to come and attack people he hates." - Remarks by the President at Arkansas Welcome, White House (11/4/2002) - BushOnIraq.com

2003

"Evidence from intelligence sources, secret communications, and statements by people now in custody reveal that Saddam Hussein aids and protects terrorists, including members of al Qaeda. Secretly, and without fingerprints, he could provide one of his hidden weapons to terrorists, or help develop their own." - President Delivers "State of the Union", White House (1/28/2003) - Whitehouse.gov

"Before September the 11th, many in the world believed that Saddam Hussein could be contained. But chemical agents, lethal viruses, and shadowy terrorist networks are not easily contained. Imagine those 19 hijackers with other weapons and other planes -- this time armed by Saddam Hussein. It would take one vial, one canister, one crate slipped into this country to bring a day of horror like none we have ever known." - President Delivers "State of the Union", White House (1/28/2003) - Whitehouse.gov

"Saddam Hussein has longstanding, direct and continuing ties to terrorist networks. Senior members of Iraqi intelligence and al Qaeda have met at least eight times since the early 1990s. Iraq has sent bomb-making and document forgery experts to work with al Qaeda. Iraq has also provided al Qaeda with chemical and biological weapons training. We also know that Iraq is harboring a terrorist network, headed by a senior al Qaeda terrorist planner." - President Bush: "World Can Rise to This Moment", White House (2/6/2003) - Whitehouse.gov

Saddam Hussein has longstanding, direct and continuing ties to terrorist networks. Senior members of Iraq intelligence and al Qaeda have met at least eight times since the early 1990s. Iraq has sent bomb-making and document forgery experts to work with al Qaeda. Iraq has also provided al Qaeda with chemical and biological weapons training. And an al Qaeda operative was sent to Iraq several times in the late 1990s for help in aquiring poisons and gases. We also know that Iraq is harboring a terrorist network headed by a senior al Qaeda terrorist planner." - President's Radio Address, White House (2/8/2003) - BushOnIraq.com

"He has trained and financed al Qaeda-type organizations before, al Qaeda and other terrorist organizations." - President George Bush Discusses Iraq in National Press Conference, White House (3/6/2003) - BushOnIraq.com

"The regime . . . has aided, trained and harbored terrorists, including operatives of al Qaeda. The danger is clear: using chemical, biological or, one day, nuclear weapons, obtained with the help of Iraq, the terrorists could fulfill their stated ambitions and kill thousands or hundreds of thousands of innocent people in our country, or any other." President Says Saddam Hussein Must Leave Iraq Within 48 Hours, White House (3/17/2003) -BushOnIraq.com

"The liberation of Iraq is a crucial advance in the campaign against terror. We've removed an ally of al Qaeda, and cut off a source of terrorist funding. And this much is certain: No terrorist network will gain weapons of mass destruction from the Iraqi regime, because the regime is no more." - President Bush Announces Major Combat Operations in Iraq Have Ended, White House (5/1/2003) - BushOnIraq.com

"The battle of Iraq is one victory in a war on terror that began on September the 11, 2001 -- and still goes on. That terrible morning, 19 evil men -- the shock troops of a hateful ideology -- gave America and the civilized world a glimpse of their ambitions. They imagined, in the words of one terrorist, that September the 11th would be the 'beginning of the end of America.' By seeking to turn our cities into killing fields, terrorists and their allies believed that they could destroy this nation's resolve, and force our retreat from the world. They have failed." - President Bush Announces Major Combat Operations in Iraq Have Ended, White House (5/1/2003) - BushOnIraq.com


Dick Cheney

2002

"In Afghanistan we found confirmation that bin Laden and the al-Qaeda network were seriously interested in nuclear and radiological weapons, and in biological and chemical agents. We are especially concerned about any possible linkup between terrorists and regimes that have or seek weapons of mass destruction." - Vice President Delivers Remarks to the National Academy of Home Builders, White House (6/6/2002) - BushOnIraq.com

"His regime has had high-level contacts with al Qaeda going back a decade and has provided training to al Qaeda terrorists." - Remarks by the Vice President at the Air National Guard Senior Leadership Conference, White House (12/2/2002) - BushOnIraq.com

"There is also a grave danger that al Qaeda or other terrorists will join with outlaw regimes that have these weapons to attack their common enemy, the United States of America. That is why confronting the threat posed by Iraq is not a distraction from the war on terror." - Remarks by the Vice President at the Air National Guard Senior Leadership Conference, White House (12/2/2002) - BushOnIraq.com

2003

"His regime aids and protects terrorists, including members of al Qaeda. He could decide secretly to provide weapons of mass destruction to terrorists for use against us." - Vice President's Remarks at 30th Political Action Conference, White House (1/30/2003) - BushOnIraq.com

"And Saddam Hussein becomes a prime suspect in that regard because of his past track record and because we know he has, in fact, developed these kinds of capabilities, chemical and biological weapons. . . We know that he has a long-standing relationship with various terrorist groups, including the al-Qaeda organization." - Dick Cheney, Meet the Press, NBC (3/16/2003) - BushOnIraq.com

"I have argued in the past, and would again, if we had been able to pre-empt the attacks of 9/11 would we have done it? And I think absolutely. We have to be prepared now to take the kind of bold action that's being contemplated with respect to Iraq in order to ensure that we don't get hit with a devastating attack when the terrorists' organization gets married up with a rogue state that's willing to provide it with the kinds of deadly capabilities that Saddam Hussein has developed and used over the years." - Dick Cheney, Meet the Press, NBC (3/16/2003) - BushOnIraq.com

"If we're successful in Iraq, if we can stand up a good representative government in Iraq, that secures the region so that it never again becomes a threat to its neighbors or to the United States, so it's not pursuing weapons of mass destruction, so that it's not a safe haven for terrorists, now we will have struck a major blow right at the heart of the base, if you will, the geographic base of the terrorists who have had us under assault now for many years, but most especially on 9/11." - Dick Cheney, Meet the Press, NBC (9/14/2003) - BushOnIraq.com

"(Since September 11) We learned more and more that there was a relationship between Iraq and al-Qaeda that stretched back through most of the decade of the '90s, that it involved training, for example, on BW and CW, that al-Qaeda sent personnel to Baghdad to get trained on the systems that are involved. The Iraqis providing bomb-making expertise and advice to the al-Qaeda organization." - Dick Cheney, Meet the Press, NBC (9/14/2003) - BushOnIraq.com

"And the reason we had to do Iraq, if you hark back and think about that link between the terrorists and weapons of mass destruction, Iraq was the place where we were most fearful that that was most likely to occur, because in Iraq we've had a government -- not only was it one of the worst dictatorships in modern times, but had oftentimes hosted terrorists in the past . . . but also an established relationship with the al Qaeda organization . . . ." - Vice President Dick Cheney Remarks at Luncheon for Congressman Jim Gerlach, White House (10/3/2003) - BushOnIraq.com

"(I)f we had not paid any attention to the fact that al Qaeda was being hosted in Northeastern Iraq, part of poisons network producing ricin and cyanide that was intended to be used in attacks both in Europe, as well as in North Africa and ignored it, we would have been derelict in our duties and responsibilities." - Vice President Dick Cheney Remarks at Luncheon for Congressman Jim Gerlach, White House (10/3/2003) - BushOnIraq.com

"He cultivated ties to terror, hosting the Abu Nidal organization, supporting terrorists, making payments to the families of suicide bombers in Israel. He also had an established relationship with al Qaeda, providing training to al Qaeda members in the areas of poisons, gases, making conventional bombs." - Remarks by Vice President Dick Cheney at the Heritage Foundation, White House (10/10/2003) - BushOnIraq.com

"Saddam Hussein had a lengthy history of reckless and sudden aggression. He cultivated ties to terror -- hosting the Abu Nidal organization, supporting terrorists, and making payments to the families of suicide bombers. He also had an established relationship with Al Qaida -- providing training to Al Qaida members in areas of poisons, gases and conventional bombs. He built, possessed, and used weapons of mass destruction." - Richard B. Cheney Delivers Remarks at the James A. Baker, III, Institute for Public Policy, White House (10/18/2003) - BushOnIraq.com

2004

"We'll find ample evidence confirming the link, that is the connection if you will between al Qaida and the Iraqi intelligence services. They have worked together on a number of occasions." - Transcript of interview with Vice President Dick Cheney, Rocky Mountain News (1/9/2004) - BushOnIraq.com

"We did have reporting that was public, that came out shortly after the 9/11 attack, provided by the Czech government, suggesting there had been a meeting in Prague between Mohammed Atta, the lead hijacker, and a man named al-Ani (Ahmed Khalil Ibrahim Samir al-Ani), who was an Iraqi intelligence official in Prague, at the embassy there, in April of '01, prior to the 9/11 attacks. It has never been -- we've never been able to collect any more information on that. That was the one that possibly tied the two together to 9/11." - Transcript of Interview with Vice President Dick Cheney, Rocky Mountain News (1/9/2004) - BushOnIraq.com

"Saddam Hussein had a lengthy history of reckless and sudden aggression. His regime cultivated ties to terror, including the al Qaeda network, and had built, possessed, and used weapons of mass destruction." - Richard B. Cheney Delivers Remarks to the Los Angeles World Affairs Council, White House (1/14/2004) - BushOnIraq.com

"Saddam Hussein had a lengthy history of reckless and sudden aggression. His regime cultivated ties to terror, including the al Qaeda network, and had built, possessed, and used weapons of mass destruction." - Richard B. Cheney Delivers Remarks to Veterans at the Arizona Wing Museum, White House (1/15/2004) - BushOnIraq.com

"I continue to believe. I think there's overwhelming evidence that there was a connection between al-Qaeda and the Iraqi government. We've discovered since documents indicating that a guy named Abdul Rahman Yasin, who was a part of the team that attacked the World Trade Center in '93, when he arrived back in Iraq was put on the payroll and provided a house, safe harbor and sanctuary. That's public information now. So Saddam Hussein had an established track record of providing safe harbor and sanctuary for terrorists. . . . I mean, this is a guy who was an advocate and a supporter of terrorism whenever it suited his purpose, and I'm very confident that there was an established relationship there." - Dick Cheney, Morning Edition, NPR (1/22/2004) - BushOnIraq.com


From the White House website, Bush's comments about Saddam Hussein
(Campaign speeches only. For period of October 10 - November 04.)

OCT 28 Remarks by the President at New Mexico Welcome
"This is a person who has had contacts with al Qaeda."

OCT 28 Remarks by the President in Colorado Welcome
"He's got connections with al Qaeda."

OCT 31 Remarks by the President at South Dakota Welcome
"This is a guy who has had connections with these shadowy terrorist networks."

NOV 01 Remarks by the President at New Hampshire Welcome
"We know he's got ties with al Qaeda."

NOV 02 Remarks by the President in Florida Welcome
"We know that he's had connections with al Qaeda."

NOV 02 Remarks by the President in Atlanta, Georgia Welcome
"He's had connections with shadowy terrorist networks like al Qaeda."

NOV 02 Remarks by the President at Tennessee Welcome
"We know that he has had contacts with terrorist networks like al Qaeda."

NOV 03 Remarks by the President in Minnesota Welcome
"This is a man who has had contacts with al Qaeda."

NOV 04 Remarks by the President at Missouri Welcome
"This is a man who has had al Qaeda connections."

NOV 04 Remarks by the President at Arkansas Welcome
"He's had contacts with al Qaeda."

NOV 04 Remarks by the President in Texas Welcome
"This is a man who has got connections with al Qaeda."

Plus this speculation:

OCT 14 Remarks by the President in Michigan Welcome
"... we need to think about Saddam Hussein using al Qaeda to do his dirty work, to not leave fingerprints behind."

NOV 03 Remarks by the President in South Dakota Welcome
"And, not only that, he is -- would like nothing better than to hook-up with one of these shadowy terrorist networks like al Qaeda, provide some weapons and training to them, let them come and do his dirty work, and we wouldn't be able to see his fingerprints on his action. "

NOV 03 Remarks by the President at Illinois Welcome
"He is a man who would likely -- he is a man who would likely team up with al Qaeda. He could provide the arsenal for one of these shadowy terrorist networks. He would love to use somebody else to attack us, and not leave fingerprints behind. "

Administration Quotes Linking 9/11 to Iraq
 
Hitler? A much stronger case could be made that Bush and Cheney embodied fascism and Hitler.

We don't live in a country with parliamentary rule. Educate yourself before you 'emote'



Fascism's major component is the takeover of private enterprise by the government. The Big 0 seems pretty adept at at and committed to this component.

Then what would you call takeover of government enterprise by private enterprise?


Usually, a wise diecision.
 
Why don't you quote Bill Clinton on Saddam as well?

Bill Clinton didn't invade Iraq...Bush DID...

I think it’s just crazy. It's part of that worldview that led us to where we are. Think about it. The United States went and negotiated with and supported Saddam Hussein himself against Iran under this notion that sometimes my enemy is my friend. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. That emboldened Saddam Hussein and allowed him to invade Kuwait. It made us go to war that we did not finish and did not take Saddam Hussein out.
Former Rep. Tom DeLay (R-Texas) 12/11/06 (The Hill)

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If that was your meaning, then your pretext would not have been 'Why', but of course you wouldn't lie...

Just play along junior you will get it.

Just because you do not get the meaning of a word doesn't mean the rest of us don't...and you proved it by your answer to the meaning of the world 'secede'...you obviously don't have a clue. But then again, none of you neocon types do.....Spend too much time worrying about what 200 year old land owners and the American equivalent of landed gentry wrote on a piece of paper...


Careful. The lock on your closed mind is showing.
 
If that was your meaning, then your pretext would not have been 'Why', but of course you wouldn't lie...

Just play along junior you will get it.

Just because you do not get the meaning of a word doesn't mean the rest of us don't...and you proved it by your answer to the meaning of the world 'secede'...you obviously don't have a clue. But then again, none of you neocon types do.....Spend too much time worrying about what 200 year old land owners and the American equivalent of landed gentry wrote on a piece of paper...


I think it was written on parchment. This is the root of Liberalism, though. Any law is worthless. Any enforcement is objectionalble. Any nation of men must be guided by caprice, stylishness and, above all, political agenda.

This is a guarnetee that any notion of justice be replaced by any notion of electability. It could easily lead to unfair tax policies, short sighted spending practices and a lack of respect from any nation in the world. Allies will fall away and enemies will attack.

Between the disastrous invasion of Iraq preceeded by the blueprint of Iraq which was Viet Nam and the ridiculous policies of the Big 0, we are in deep do-do right now. Continuing on the same path that led us to this point is going to lead us to futher problems.

Having some anchoring priciples is helpful to plot ones current position and relating it to what may or may not have worked well in the past.

Those who don't study history are doomed to repeat it.
 
Just play along junior you will get it.

Just because you do not get the meaning of a word doesn't mean the rest of us don't...and you proved it by your answer to the meaning of the world 'secede'...you obviously don't have a clue. But then again, none of you neocon types do.....Spend too much time worrying about what 200 year old land owners and the American equivalent of landed gentry wrote on a piece of paper...

But they absolutely refuse to research or accept that the government regulations our founding fathers placed on corporations would make the New Deal look like corporatism.


What American Based Corporations did they regulate? What was the charchter of those regulations?
 
The way Rasmussen Reports conducts a poll based upon a sample of likely voters those who may be more informed on the issues


Want to know why conservatives love Rasmussen approval polls? Because Rasmussen gives them numbers that make Obama look bad.

Want to know why Rasmussen's numbers make Obama look bad?

Because they poll more Republicans than anyone else. :lol:

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Imagine that!!


Your graph does not prove your contention, in fact all it proves is that others OVER SAMPLE Democrats and that would be why his numbers are better with them. Thanks for proving it for us.



Okay you can avoid answering the same question Frank won't answer.

What are the CORRECT percentages of Democrats vs. Republicans in this country, and in regards to the number you give me,

how do you know that is the correct number?
 
So Rasmussen has Obama at -17, and the average of EVERY OTHER POLLSTER has him at about +3,

which means Rasmussen is a 20 point outlier, or, according to the 'nuts,

EVERY OTHER POLLSTER is the 20 point outlier.

:lol::lol:
 
204 million eligible voters (age 18 or older)
63 million registered Democrats
47 million registered Republicans
32 million registered as independents or with minor party
62 million not registered

Here's to the beauty of two-party system

So, quick math in my head, 32% Democrats, 24% Republicans, for an 8 percentage point gap, which, amazingly,

is around the middle of the pack in the chart I posted.
 
204 million eligible voters (age 18 or older)
63 million registered Democrats
47 million registered Republicans
32 million registered as independents or with minor party
62 million not registered

Here's to the beauty of two-party system

So, quick math in my head, 32% Democrats, 24% Republicans, for an 8 percentage point gap, which, amazingly,

is around the middle of the pack in the chart I posted.

actually, the polling states what dems polled verses repubs polled, it doesn't mention independents...i don't believe?

so, taking Dems vs Repubs registered voters only....57% dems vs 43% repubs
 
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Just play along junior you will get it.

Just because you do not get the meaning of a word doesn't mean the rest of us don't...and you proved it by your answer to the meaning of the world 'secede'...you obviously don't have a clue. But then again, none of you neocon types do.....Spend too much time worrying about what 200 year old land owners and the American equivalent of landed gentry wrote on a piece of paper...


I think it was written on parchment. This is the root of Liberalism, though. Any law is worthless. Any enforcement is objectionalble. Any nation of men must be guided by caprice, stylishness and, above all, political agenda.

This is a guarnetee that any notion of justice be replaced by any notion of electability. It could easily lead to unfair tax policies, short sighted spending practices and a lack of respect from any nation in the world. Allies will fall away and enemies will attack.

Between the disastrous invasion of Iraq preceeded by the blueprint of Iraq which was Viet Nam and the ridiculous policies of the Big 0, we are in deep do-do right now. Continuing on the same path that led us to this point is going to lead us to futher problems.

Having some anchoring priciples is helpful to plot ones current position and relating it to what may or may not have worked well in the past.

Those who don't study history are doomed to repeat it.

You know, you touched on something I've been thinking about. I was raised in the 1950's by a liberal mother and a conservative father. My dad was the sole provider, and my mom was a housewife/mother. We lived in a middle class neighborhood, it was called suburbia. All my friends and school mates had a similar story...father worked, mother stayed home. None of us kids ever knew or even cared what anyone's father did for a living. None of us had to go without; food, clothing, pets, bikes, baseball gloves, doctor care (our doctor used to come to the house), a real quality education with all the extras; sports, arts, school run ice rink, summer basketball programs etc.

THAT is exactly what I want for my kids and for my grand-kids.

So, what is conservatism? In my opinion, it is respect for the past and the wisdom of our ancestors. Their lives were built on their ancestors and so it goes, from one generation to the next. You ultimately respect the lives and toil of our ancestors not by paying lip service or soaring rhetoric, you do it by embracing their lessons learned; the policies, regulations and programs they crafted that created the benefits and lessened the losses in our communities and our society we reap the benefits of.

How did our ancestors craft them, were they based on some 'ideology'? I believe they were based on common sense, common decency, experience, trial and error, community activism, elections and community involvement.

So...In a very real way I AM truly a conservative.

Are ANY of the people that now call themselves conservatives today looking for common sense, common decency solutions to benefit their families and their community, or are they ideologues, that want to dismantle any shred of COMMunity and replace it with SELF interest?
 
even if you included independents....out of those registered to vote, 142,000 total registered

dems-44%
repubs-33%
independent-23%
 
HAH! Now I get it! I know why he hasn't pulled out of the mid east and stopped this pointless war.

Now to shut down the brains of the libs here: According to GLENN BECK!...

I love that sound of collective thinking just shutting off. love that sound!

When a president's popularity drops to 42%, it never recovers EXCEPT IN TIME OF WAR!

Now we know why. It's a way for him to try and regain popularity.
 
I believe that you are right. That is the tradgedy. His best is laghably inadequate, misdirected, ill timed and poorly planned. His experience and belief system guides him to make decisions that are both unfair in the short term and damaging in the long term.

He picks and chooses the laws he will enforce, attacks those who oppose his biases simply based on that opposition, is motivated only by political expediance and believes in his heart that his goals are above the Law of the Land.

This is his first job in which results, not procedures, will measure his performance. It's also his first job in which his decisions actually make a difference to anyone outside of his little circle of friends.

Are you better off now than you were 4 years ago?

Had enough?

Well Said


.

Well said hubris...


I'm tempted to ask if the hubris you cite is mine or the Big 0's.

It will be more productive, though, to simply ask you to point out any success this President has enjoyed from Day 1, a day he is fond of citing recently. For this purpose, though, let's use as Day1 the first day of his administration.

You are welcome to cite the balanced budget, the success of his spending programs, the success of his foreign policy decisions, the success of his immigration policies, the success of his economic initiatives or pick an area that you think is more appropriate in measuring the work of an American President.

Feel free to use specific examples. I can't think of any successes ouside of driving his agenda. That drive may well be ending now too despite the overwhelming majorities in both Houses.

What have been the successes of the Obama Administration?
 
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As a liberal, I wasn't a fan of George W. Bush, But I didn't want him to fail, because this is my country and my children's future is collateral.

You folks are Republicans, right wingers or whatever you wish to call yourselves, but you are not patriots or Americans. The word domestic terrorist would best describe your wishes.



Our country is now geared to an arms economy which was bred in...war hysteria and nurtured upon an incessant propaganda of fear.
General Douglas MacArthur

Fucking retard.
 

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