Fifth-Grader Reprimanded for Bringing Paper Gun to School, Mother Furious

[Clementine]

This is going too far. They are teaching children to be afraid of anything that even slightly resembles a gun. A rough piece of torn paper in the vague shape of a gun got this girl in trouble. Some students saw the paper as the girl went to throw it away, and because they've been taught to sound the alarms at even gun shaped things, they panicked and obediently told the teacher. Were the kids really afraid of a piece of paper or are they completely brain washed to think all people who might like guns, even toy guns or drawings of guns, are evil and should be reported? Have our children seriously been taught to be so afraid of their classmates over nothing?

We used to play cops and robbers on the playground. Teachers and students used to talk about hunting in high school. Sometimes both kids and teachers would keep their shotguns in their cars. We never had violence.

Kids used to get into fist fights, mostly the boys. No one made a big deal of it. The boys would get called to the principals office and the parents would handle it when the kids got home. Sometimes girls pushed each other on the playground. There were always some kind of consequences, usually just having adults break it up then talking it out did the trick. No one was expelled or deemed a threat to the student body. Now, there are such dire consequences for the slightest fight or even an argument that kids hold it in. I think being shuttled through the halls of schools like cattle and being told to suck it in and not show anger just causes it to bottle up till kids explode one day. Kids have to be mindful constantly and remember not to mention the hunting trip you took with your dad over the weekend or even discussing that squirt gun or bubble gun you got for your birthday. I can't imagine always biting your tongue and measuring every word because one slip will get the PC police all over you and you'll be labeled for the rest of your school days.

Liberals clearly don't know the difference between a real threat and an innocent child. Their rules hurt the innocent and don't hone in on the potential threats that may or may not be present. The treatment that children receive over such small things might even add to a disturbed child's mental stress. Yes, liberals could actually make violence worse by their poor handling of it.

Liberal policies tend to go against human nature. They don't get it that not all people wish to be led and obey those who declare themselves as superior beings. Some people are quite capable of taking care of themselves and fighting their own battles.

Fifth-Grader Reprimanded for Bringing Paper Gun to School, Mother Furious

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[Bigfoot]

Yeah, I saw this. That poor little girl said "I told him it was only paper and he wouldn't listen" Then he started threatening her with calling the police to take her away. The guy should not only lose his job but get his ass kicked. I would be happy to try.

 

[Clementine]

Yeah, I saw this. That poor little girl said "I told him it was only paper and he wouldn't listen" Then he started threatening her with calling the police to take her away. The guy should not only lose his job but get his ass kicked. I would be happy to try.

That immature and irrational reaction from the teacher is becoming the norm and children are being taught to instantly panic and snitch on the slightest infraction, like mentioning a gun (like the girl talking about a bubble gun) or even a gun drawing. I'm sure those children who are receptive to the brainwashing without putting up a fight get rewarded with praise and maybe even treats.

Meanwhile, Chicago children go home every night to the inner cities and pray that the only guns are paper and bubble guns.

 

[Bigfoot]

Yeah, that little girl is so scared and sad that her mother has found her out of bed and in the bathroom crying because she is having nightmares It damn near makes me cry.

 

[Crackerjaxon]

The teachers union owns Obammy.

Problem: Recession

Solution: Hire more teachers

Problem: High unemployment

Solution: Hire more teachers

Problem: Bad weather

Solution: Hire more teachers

They won't be happy until they turn American school children into loony little lefties like themselves.

 

[OKTexas]

I blame parents that won't get involved with the schools, kids aren't smart bombs you can just fire and forget (pun intended), you have to make sure they are properly nurtured every step of the way, and that would include their time at school. Parents and schools should be teaching children what guns are, what they are capable of, why they are used and to respect them, not fear them. Before that can happen we'll have to push about 90% of the libs out of the school systems.

 

[konradv]

Yeah, I saw this. That poor little girl said "I told him it was only paper and he wouldn't listen" Then he started threatening her with calling the police to take her away. The guy should not only lose his job but get his ass kicked. I would be happy to try.

That immature and irrational reaction from the teacher is becoming the norm and children are being taught to instantly panic and snitch on the slightest infraction, like mentioning a gun (like the girl talking about a bubble gun) or even a gun drawing. I'm sure those children who are receptive to the brainwashing without putting up a fight get rewarded with praise and maybe even treats.

Meanwhile, Chicago children go home every night to the inner cities and pray that the only guns are paper and bubble guns.

It's hardly the norm. Who's over-reacting now? You have one idiot teacher and suddenly it's a national problem? If there's anyone that's brainwashed, it's those that see this as anything but an isolated incident. Though it is typical for FOX to play up this sort of thing. It fits their narrative. Fair and Balanced, my ass!!!

 

[OKTexas]

Yeah, I saw this. That poor little girl said "I told him it was only paper and he wouldn't listen" Then he started threatening her with calling the police to take her away. The guy should not only lose his job but get his ass kicked. I would be happy to try.

That immature and irrational reaction from the teacher is becoming the norm and children are being taught to instantly panic and snitch on the slightest infraction, like mentioning a gun (like the girl talking about a bubble gun) or even a gun drawing. I'm sure those children who are receptive to the brainwashing without putting up a fight get rewarded with praise and maybe even treats.

Meanwhile, Chicago children go home every night to the inner cities and pray that the only guns are paper and bubble guns.

It's hardly the norm. Who's over-reacting now? You have one idiot teacher and suddenly it's a national problem? If there's anyone that's brainwashed, it's those that see this as anything but an isolated incident. Though it is typical for FOX to play up this sort of thing. It fits their narrative. Fair and Balanced, my ass!!!

Are you forgetting the 5 year old that was charged by a school for a terrorist threat because she told another student she was going to shoot them with a freaking bubble gun? Are you aware that this child's mother wanted to put her in another school and they refused her because she had a threat on her record. Really, a freaking 5 year old with a record. There is no defending this lunacy.

 

[Clementine]

This isn't the first time a teacher has completely overreacted to the mention or drawing of a gun. One child got in trouble for drawing a picture of a gun in art class. A big deal was made of that. A little girl mentioned a bubble gun to her friend and that made the news.

There are many rules that are just plain stupid. Everything from guns to smoking has been held up as a mortal sin. Smokers have to walk 20 feet away from buildings. In Minnesota, you can't even walk down the street smoking or you get fined.

It's all about making the most ridiculous rules and getting people used to following them no matter how irrational they are. We are in training to obey and they are doing it slowly by having us follow these laws that sound like they are written by someone suffering from paranoid schizophrenia. We know they make no sense and are merely appeasing the low intelligence crowd, but for some reason, we just obey instead of standing up against unfair and irrational laws. Maybe it's time to start protesting a little more. Why should we allow our children to be trained in liberalism and ourselves to become passive in this ugly tranformation of our country?

I saw the delegates at the DNC convention and that made it crystal clear who is running the party these days. It was a sickening mix of union thugs, Marxists, Communists, Socialist and anti-Semitic hate mongers. They actually put it in their platform that they would not recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capital and denied people the right to speak of God. The angry reaction from the crowd after that farce of a vote to put those things back in the platform revealed everything about the party.

Even Dems who were running for re-election avoided the convention. The media looked the other way. I'd like to think that the average Dem was sickened by what was going on there rather than merely covering their own butts in an election year.

To understand the policies coming out of the liberals in Washington, it's important to take a good, hard look at what they've done so far. We have an expanded welfare state and a dumbed down population. We have an all out attack on the private sector. The government has limited the number of loans banks can make to people starting small businesses, for heaven's sake. WTF? At a time when small businesses are going under, the government prevents more from being started!!!

Obamacare is making jobs disappear. More and more on welfare.

If anyone has the slightest clue who Cloward-Piven or Saul Alinsky are, they know there is a specific formula for transforming a free, capitalist country into a socialist or communist country run by a dictator. That formula is being followed to the letter and has been for years. The only people who have no issue with that are those who like the idea.

We are going down a path that leads to disaster, always has and always will. The policies imposed on us and the constant ideology shoved down our children's throats at school have a purpose. Teach them that wealthy people and gun owners are evil. Teach them to be afraid of those who oppose their agenda. Impose more and more laws on the public until they stop questioning you. It's all for the greater good, they keep saying and that is all you need to know. It trains people to slowly cede their liberty. Only an evil government would want such a thing.

 

[SmarterThanHick]

what makes you think this is an issue of liberals? Can you find me a single liberal on this forum who would actually agree that the actions taken against this girl were appropriate?

No, this is about people overreacting. Don't drag politics into every little schoolyard squabble.

 

[Misty]

Most public schools are liberal. This is a liberal issue.

That thing barely looks like a gun. Liberals have gone around the bend.

 

[OKTexas]

what makes you think this is an issue of liberals? Can you find me a single liberal on this forum who would actually agree that the actions taken against this girl were appropriate?

No, this is about people overreacting. Don't drag politics into every little schoolyard squabble.

You might want to do a little research and see who is pushing all of these zero tolerance policies and have been for decades. Hint, it ain't conservatives.

 

[SmarterThanHick]

Most public schools are PUBLIC. This is a public issue, and the public of that very school district disagreed with those actions. It is nothing more than overreaction by individuals, not some covert liberal conspiracy agenda.

By your logic, because most schools are also focused on education, perhaps this is an education flaw in America. Or perhaps because schools are made of buildings, it's a construction issue. Perhaps it's a PAPER issue!?

No, it's an overreaction issue that has little to do with political agendas. If you still disagree, find me a liberal on this thread who believes these actions were appropriate. Easy litmus test. Anyone?

 

[SmarterThanHick]

what makes you think this is an issue of liberals? Can you find me a single liberal on this forum who would actually agree that the actions taken against this girl were appropriate?

No, this is about people overreacting. Don't drag politics into every little schoolyard squabble.

You might want to do a little research and see who is pushing all of these zero tolerance policies and have been for decades. Hint, it ain't conservatives.

zero tolerance of WHAT?! guns coming into schools? yeah, that's a political agenda. and not a bad one at that. but can you show me one liberal politician have a zero tolerance against paper? really, yall need to calm down as much as the crazies at that school.

 

[Politico]

Yeah, I saw this. That poor little girl said "I told him it was only paper and he wouldn't listen" Then he started threatening her with calling the police to take her away. The guy should not only lose his job but get his ass kicked. I would be happy to try.

What kind of retard doesn't know what a piece of paper looks like?

 

[OKTexas]

what makes you think this is an issue of liberals? Can you find me a single liberal on this forum who would actually agree that the actions taken against this girl were appropriate?

No, this is about people overreacting. Don't drag politics into every little schoolyard squabble.

You might want to do a little research and see who is pushing all of these zero tolerance policies and have been for decades. Hint, it ain't conservatives.

zero tolerance of WHAT?! guns coming into schools? yeah, that's a political agenda. and not a bad one at that. but can you show me one liberal politician have a zero tolerance against paper? really, yall need to calm down as much as the crazies at that school.

Kids are being disciplined for uttering the word "gun", or drawing anything that may be construed as a gun, for pointing their finger with their thumb elevated and even saying bang. The school administrations have gone way past ridiculous and parents should put a stop to it.

 

[Clementine]

what makes you think this is an issue of liberals? Can you find me a single liberal on this forum who would actually agree that the actions taken against this girl were appropriate?

No, this is about people overreacting. Don't drag politics into every little schoolyard squabble.

It started with policies that allowed these teachers to instruct students to report certain things. There is no way in hell children are afraid of a piece of paper. They are taught this crap.

Truthfully, both parties have allowed this sort of nonsense to continue. There have been times when the Dems were in control and failed to address the problems they ran on. Same for Repubs. It simply means they don't want things fixed or they would be.

I am concerned at the sharp left turn we are taking now. There are far more powerful men that seem to pull the strings of leaders. George Soros, to name only one. Could it be that while we have split this country in half and the two sides continue to battle, we are all being fooled? If both parties are willing to let the country fall apart, then no matter who is in power, they have at least half the country on their side. Wouldn't that be a brilliant plan? On second thought, I don't think politicians are smart enough to pull that off.

Things haven't been okay with this country for a long time. The government for the people, by the people....... has been "us" and "them" for as long as I can remember. We went off track years ago and the problems have only gotten worse. No problem the government set out to fix was ever corrected, only compounded.

And yet the vast majority of eligible voters in this country stay home every election and we have no idea how that silent majority feels. Scary that some don't value their rights and exercise them.

Meanwhile, our schools are a mess despite pledge after pledge from politicians to improve them.

The zero tolerance laws are fucked up beyond belief. There is nothing proactive about them and no violence will be prevented. They only serve to harass innocent children and instill fear in all of them. They are being taught to fear guns and gun owners. The media is taking care of that for those not in school.

I think the lack of personal responsibility on the part of parents and some people in general have really added to this mess. We have more and more people who are just plain ignorant and unable or unwilling to contribute good to society.

Seeing little children get treated so badly over nothing, yet knowing that gangs roam the city streets without fear of reprisal really bugs me. Where are our priorities? We won't help children be smarter or better people by bullying them over silly things like paper guns.

I am so sick of being called a gun nut because I believe it's okay to own a gun. I think if you have one, you should know how to use it and how to be responsible about keeping it secured. If you don't like guns, then stay away from them, but don't encourage others to fear their existence.

Is there a move to outlaw squirt guns, bubble guns, GI Joe action figures or toy soldiers? Half the toys I bought for my boys included these little toy guns that made noise.

If these toys haven't been outlawed by the government, then the schools need to pull their heads out of their ass and understand that children will talk about kid stuff, like the toys named above that they play with. And there isn't a damn thing wrong with that.

If a teacher isn't smart enough to understand the difference between playing and real life threats, then they are simply too stupid to be teaching children. Maybe they can find a job with Homeland Security or work at airports picking on little old ladies and children in wheelchairs. That seems to be their strong point.

 

[SmarterThanHick]

It started with policies that allowed these teachers to instruct students to report certain things. There is no way in hell children are afraid of a piece of paper. They are taught this crap.

NO child is afraid of a piece of paper. Do you believe otherwise? Just because it was reported does not mean someone is scared. They're kids.

Seeing little children get treated so badly over nothing, yet knowing that gangs roam the city streets without fear of reprisal really bugs me. Where are our priorities? We won't help children be smarter or better people by bullying them over silly things like paper guns.

I appreciate your sentiment, but which of the involved parties should we have removed from this setting to dedicate to cleaning up the streets? The 5th grade classmates? Or the 5th grade teacher?

I am so sick of being called a gun nut because I believe it's okay to own a gun. I think if you have one, you should know how to use it and how to be responsible about keeping it secured. If you don't like guns, then stay away from them, but don't encourage others to fear their existence.

This is a little shortsighted, don't you think? YOU fear guns. People own handguns because they believe everyone else fears them.