FEMA Disaster Assistance to Tennessee Tops $28 Million in First Week

[The Rabbi]

I sure hope they had insurance....because there is NOTHING in our Constitution that states the Federal Government should help to pay for the damages.

Insurance won't cover most of it because they weren't in a flood zone. And you can only get government insurance for floods if you are in a flood zone. Otherwise you can't get insurance.
And it's in the commerce clause. Of course.

The commerce clause states that our Federal Government has to help pay for damages from a flood?

Yup. RIght there along with setting speed limits, age limits for alcohol consumption, and criminalizing illegal drugs.
Wanna fight about it?

 

[SpidermanTuba]

Actually no one knows yet what the damage is. Damage to Opryland alone and the surround area might be that much.

I sure hope they had insurance....because there is NOTHING in our Constitution that states the Federal Government should help to pay for the damages.

Insurance won't cover most of it because they weren't in a flood zone. And you can only get government insurance for floods if you are in a flood zone. Otherwise you can't get insurance.
And it's in the commerce clause. Of course.

Sure you can. You just buy flood insurance.

 

[SpidermanTuba]

Insurance won't cover most of it because they weren't in a flood zone. And you can only get government insurance for floods if you are in a flood zone. Otherwise you can't get insurance.
And it's in the commerce clause. Of course.

The commerce clause states that our Federal Government has to help pay for damages from a flood?

Yup. RIght there along with setting speed limits, age limits for alcohol consumption, and criminalizing illegal drugs.
Wanna fight about it?

There is no federal drinking age.

 

[Vel]

Of course I do, Jarhead. I am simply using the exact argument that right wingers and Tea Baggers used to fight against Healthcare reform. Why can they use it for one thing and not another?

Come on.. you are really not this stupid. I've read many of your posts and while you're no mental giant you're usually a step or two above Truthmatters. FEMA provides LOANS to those affected by disaster. How exactly do you equate the federal government LOANING taxpayer money that they took from the states BACK to the states with requiring individuals to buy insurance?

So, you were FOR our government LOANING money to AIG? GM? BOA? After all, they will pay it back, right? Sounds like socialism to me.

Bless your heart, you really ARE that stupid. How exactly do you equate the federal government LOANING taxpayer money to ANYONE with requiring individuals to buy insurance? Show me how they correlate.

 

[VaYank5150]

Come on.. you are really not this stupid. I've read many of your posts and while you're no mental giant you're usually a step or two above Truthmatters. FEMA provides LOANS to those affected by disaster. How exactly do you equate the federal government LOANING taxpayer money that they took from the states BACK to the states with requiring individuals to buy insurance?

So, you were FOR our government LOANING money to AIG? GM? BOA? After all, they will pay it back, right? Sounds like socialism to me.

Bless your heart, you really ARE that stupid. How exactly do you equate the federal government LOANING taxpayer money to ANYONE with requiring individuals to buy insurance? Show me how they correlate.

Requiring people to buy insurance saves the taxpayer in the long run as we no longer have to foot the bill for those who need service yet elect not to buy insurance. How does this ONE part of the Healthcare reform policy get your panties in such a twist?

 

[The Rabbi]

The commerce clause states that our Federal Government has to help pay for damages from a flood?

Yup. RIght there along with setting speed limits, age limits for alcohol consumption, and criminalizing illegal drugs.
Wanna fight about it?

There is no federal drinking age.

You think it's an accident that it happens to be 21 in every state?

 

[The Rabbi]

I sure hope they had insurance....because there is NOTHING in our Constitution that states the Federal Government should help to pay for the damages.

Insurance won't cover most of it because they weren't in a flood zone. And you can only get government insurance for floods if you are in a flood zone. Otherwise you can't get insurance.
And it's in the commerce clause. Of course.

Sure you can. You just buy flood insurance.

No, you can't. If you aren't in a flood zone then you can't buy insurance, which only the gov't offers.

 

[SpidermanTuba]

Yup. RIght there along with setting speed limits, age limits for alcohol consumption, and criminalizing illegal drugs.
Wanna fight about it?

There is no federal drinking age.

You think it's an accident that it happens to be 21 in every state?

They are all individual state laws. There is no federal drinking age. I know this because when I was 18, I could drink, then the Louisiana legislature passed a law saying otherwise.

 

[The Rabbi]

There is no federal drinking age.

You think it's an accident that it happens to be 21 in every state?

They are all individual state laws. There is no federal drinking age. I know this because when I was 18, I could drink, then the Louisiana legislature passed a law saying otherwise.

So you think it's an accident they all have exactly the same age, despite the fact that in NY it was 18 when I lived there?

 

[SpidermanTuba]

Insurance won't cover most of it because they weren't in a flood zone. And you can only get government insurance for floods if you are in a flood zone. Otherwise you can't get insurance.
And it's in the commerce clause. Of course.

Sure you can. You just buy flood insurance.

No, you can't. If you aren't in a flood zone then you can't buy insurance, which only the gov't offers.

National Flood Insurance : Top 10 Consumer Facts about Flood Insurance

1. Everyone lives in a flood zone.

* You don't need to live near water to be flooded.
* Floods are caused by storms, melting snow, hurricanes, and water backup due to inadequate or overloaded drainage systems, dam or levee failure, etc.


2. Flood damage is not covered by homeowners policies.

* You can protect your home, business, and belongings with flood insurance from the National Flood Insurance Program.
* You can insure your home with flood insurance for up to $250,000 for the building and $100,000 for your contents.


3. You can buy flood insurance no matter what your flood risk is.

* It doesn't matter whether your flood risk is high, medium, or low, you can buy flood insurance as long as your community participates in the National Flood Insurance Program.
* And, it's a good idea to buy even in low or moderate risk areas: almost 25 percent of all flood insurance claims come from low- to moderate-risk areas.

 

[SpidermanTuba]

You think it's an accident that it happens to be 21 in every state?

They are all individual state laws. There is no federal drinking age. I know this because when I was 18, I could drink, then the Louisiana legislature passed a law saying otherwise.

So you think it's an accident they all have exactly the same age, despite the fact that in NY it was 18 when I lived there?

Its no accident. The federal government conditioned road funds on states having those laws. But as I have already stated, there is no federal drinking age - no federal law which states you must be 21 to drink. If there had been, then I would not have been able to drink at age 18, no matter what state law said.

 

[Vel]

So, you were FOR our government LOANING money to AIG? GM? BOA? After all, they will pay it back, right? Sounds like socialism to me.

Bless your heart, you really ARE that stupid. How exactly do you equate the federal government LOANING taxpayer money to ANYONE with requiring individuals to buy insurance? Show me how they correlate.

Requiring people to buy insurance saves the taxpayer in the long run as we no longer have to foot the bill for those who need service yet elect not to buy insurance. How does this ONE part of the Healthcare reform policy get your panties in such a twist?

All you have to do is say.. I can't equate the two issues. Bringing up healthcare legislation had nothing to do with FEMA disaster programs. Is it too much to ask for people to just stay on topic?

 

[The Rabbi]

They are all individual state laws. There is no federal drinking age. I know this because when I was 18, I could drink, then the Louisiana legislature passed a law saying otherwise.

So you think it's an accident they all have exactly the same age, despite the fact that in NY it was 18 when I lived there?

Its no accident. The federal government conditioned road funds on states having those laws. But as I have already stated, there is no federal drinking age - no federal law which states you must be 21 to drink. If there had been, then I would not have been able to drink at age 18, no matter what state law said.

So what gives the Feds the right to dictate to states what their drinking age ought to be?

 

[VaYank5150]

Bless your heart, you really ARE that stupid. How exactly do you equate the federal government LOANING taxpayer money to ANYONE with requiring individuals to buy insurance? Show me how they correlate.

Requiring people to buy insurance saves the taxpayer in the long run as we no longer have to foot the bill for those who need service yet elect not to buy insurance. How does this ONE part of the Healthcare reform policy get your panties in such a twist?

All you have to do is say.. I can't equate the two issues. Bringing up healthcare legislation had nothing to do with FEMA disaster programs. Is it too much to ask for people to just stay on topic?

I brought up ONE of the arguments that the right used to fight Healthcare Reform. That providing health insurance (or mandating people buy it) is not written in the Constitution. NOW, some of these same right wingers are attacking the Obama adminsitration for not doing enough to help the folks in TN. But, since nothing in the Constitution requires the Federal Government to pay for damage from a flood, I find it rather hypocritical of them. THAT is the point I was trying to make.

 

[SpidermanTuba]

So you think it's an accident they all have exactly the same age, despite the fact that in NY it was 18 when I lived there?

Its no accident. The federal government conditioned road funds on states having those laws. But as I have already stated, there is no federal drinking age - no federal law which states you must be 21 to drink. If there had been, then I would not have been able to drink at age 18, no matter what state law said.

So what gives the Feds the right to dictate to states what their drinking age ought to be?

They don't have that right. They only have the right to appropriate funds. My state chose to go without the funds for years.

 

[VaYank5150]

Its no accident. The federal government conditioned road funds on states having those laws. But as I have already stated, there is no federal drinking age - no federal law which states you must be 21 to drink. If there had been, then I would not have been able to drink at age 18, no matter what state law said.

So what gives the Feds the right to dictate to states what their drinking age ought to be?

They don't have that right. They only have the right to appropriate funds. My state chose to go without the funds for years.

So, if the states take the funds, is that Socialism?

 

[SpidermanTuba]

So what gives the Feds the right to dictate to states what their drinking age ought to be?

They don't have that right. They only have the right to appropriate funds. My state chose to go without the funds for years.

So, if the states take the funds, is that Socialism?

The use of any state funds to pay for the public good is a form of socialism, yes. We have a hybrid socialist/capitalistic state - that is the superior form of government.

 

[VaYank5150]

They don't have that right. They only have the right to appropriate funds. My state chose to go without the funds for years.

So, if the states take the funds, is that Socialism?

The use of any state funds to pay for the public good is a form of socialism, yes. We have a hybrid socialist/capitalistic state - that is the superior form of government.

Hmmmm...whoda thunk that TN was such a Socialist state? I bet the Tea Baggers won't have their convention there NEXT year. That would be hypocritical of them. Sorta like fighting against government run healthcare, all the while taking advantage of MediCare and MedicAid. Oh wait....

 

[editec]

Tennesse is still part of the USA.

Ergo it is only right that the rest of the nation come to their aid in their time of need.

Those volunteers would do it for me, here in Maine if we needed their help, I am quite sure of that.

We're in this mess together, folks.

Hating your neighbors because they don't talk like you, or look like you or even THINK like you makes you a tool for the people who are REALLY screwing us ALL over.

 

[SpidermanTuba]

Tennesse is still part of the USA.

Ergo it is only right that the rest of the nation come to their aid in their time of need.

Those volunteers would do it for me, here in Maine if we needed their help, I am quite sure of that.

We're in this mess together, folks.

Hating your neighbors because they don't talk like you, or look like you or even THINK like you makes you a tool for the people who are REALLY screwing us ALL over.

Of course the nation as a whole should help Tennessee, that's not in question.

I'm just riling up all those assholes who said that New Orleans shouldn't be rebuilt after the storm.

Both Nashville and New Orleans are important to this nation, not only because of their modern day culture (centered around music in both cases), but because of the history of the places.