Feds threaten to sue states over union laws

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    The secret ballot means the union thugs cannot intimidate the shit outta people. why are the Feds suing to allow intinidation?
     
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    ...because all federal employees are union members, right?
     
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    Where is the surprise?

    1. "Now, about that euphoniously named “Employee Free Choice Act,” aka ‘card check,’ if you hate capitalism, this is the bill for you! 1) it eliminates secret ballot elections in favor of public ones: just pass a paper around the office, and if a majority of employees sign on, you have a union. Get it: a little take between you and the ‘organizers.” 2) the bill has no safeguards that mandate what ‘voting’ cards must look like, and 3) it would impose binding government arbitration if the employer and union fail to reach agreement within 90 days of a ‘new’ union being certified. (Opinion: Arbitration the real threat in EFCA - Newt Gingrich - POLITICO.com)

    2. Just because they lost the House, the left isn't going to stop fighting capitalism...after all:

    "After unions spent more than $400 million on the election and mounted massive voter-turnout efforts for Mr. Obama, they're inclined to push for bringing the Employee Free Choice Act up for a vote early next year, believing they have a narrow window to get it passed.”
    Labor Wants Obama to Take on Big Fight - WSJ.com


    3. BTW, while lobbying for the EFCA, the SEIU fired 75 of its 220 employees, ‘cause, you know, they needed that $60 million for Obama, so the employees filed an NLRB unfair practices suit. (NATIONAL BRIEFING - LABOR - Union Is Accused of Violations - Brief - NYTimes.com)

    This is what Andy Stern, SEIU president said: “This is not a financial issue. We need to respond to the once-in-a-lifetime opportunity our members created by helping elect President Obama.” The heck with government of the people...
     
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    Welcome to the board, 30.

    Good point about the difference between union membership in public and in private employment...
    folks who don't have to join a union, don't.

    1. Results of a recent Rasmussen poll found that 9% of nonunion workers were interested in joining a union. For public school grads, that means that 91% have no such interest. In fact, maybe that means that 9% are public school grads who didn’t learn to read on their own. (Just 9% of Non-Union Workers Want to Join Union - Rasmussen Reports)

    2. Rasmussen found that even workers in companies who were in danger of losing their jobs, it was still only 9%. What do the 91% know about union membership that the 9% don’t? One can only conjecture.

    3. In the 1950s some 1/3 of all private-sector workers belonged to a union. Now only 7.6% of nongovernment workers belong to one. From 1997 to 2004, private sector employment grew from 66.1 to 103.6 million, but union membership declined from 14.3 to 8.2 million. (AEAweb: Annual Meeting Papers)

    4. At the same time, unionization of government jobs is five times higher (Union Members Summary) .

    Could it be that the concern of private companies for profits, and maximizing shareholder value, and workers choosing opportunity over job security explain the disparity? Or, in more loaded terminology, choosing capitalism over socialism.

    5. So, what are the strategies of union organizers? First, they continue to talk like its still 1930, and the many laws that protect workers from management abuse don’t exist. Victimology.

    The NLRB received 22, 497 unfair-labor-practices charges in 2008. But of those, 6,210 were filed against unions for “alleged illegal restraint and coercion of employees.” (NLRB | Page Not Found)

    Second, instead of improving workers’ benefits, unions have become political action committees: take money from workers to give to politicians to help them get elected, and then politicians pass laws that make ‘capitalism’ moot. SEIU President Andy Stern: “We spent a fortune to elect Barack Obama- $60.7 million, to be exact- and we’re proud of it.”
     
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    Because they are the part of the administration. They want to get more illegals into unions, imo.

    Technically, they are not part of the administration, but the memos go back and forth if you know what I mean...$$$$)
     
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