Federal land leases Bush 15,095 Obama 5,568

[healthmyths]

In 3 years new leases under Obama 5,568 new leases..
Under Bush.. from 2006 to 2008 15,095 new leases!

NEARLY 3 times the new Federal Leases under Bush then Obama !


http://cnsnews.com/news/article/number-new-oil-wells-and-new-leases-have-decreased-under-obama-data-blm-show

 

[healthmyths]

Obama LIED again..
From the debate transcript regarding oil leases...Obama LIED!

ROMNEY: But that's not what you've done in the last four years. That's the problem. In the last four years, you cut permits and licenses on federal land and federal waters in half.
OBAMA: Not true, Governor Romney.
ROMNEY: So how much did you cut (inaudible)?
OBAMA: Not true.
ROMNEY: How much did you cut them by, then?
OBAMA: Governor, we have actually produced more oil --
ROMNEY: No, no. How much did you cut licenses and permits on federal land and federal waters?


FACTS:
In 3 years new leases under Obama 5,568 new leases..
Under Bush.. from 2006 to 2008 15,095 new leases!

NEARLY 3 times the new Federal Leases under Bush then Obama !


http://cnsnews.com/news/article/number-new-oil-wells-and-new-leases-have-decreased-under-obama-data-blm-show

 

[TNHarley]

Did you expect anything else? Alot of what he said was a lie. People say the pres. won the debate. I dont see how. Granted, he did better than before, however, he lied so much! Romney attacked and defended better.They both had good style. The substance.. not so much.. Where was your response for fast & furious pres.?

 

[Old Rocks]

And here are the facts;

Myths And Facts About Oil And Gasoline | Research | Media Matters for America

The data in the report, which go back to 2003, show that there was indeed a large decline in oil production on federal lands and waters in 2011. But that observation belies the fact that federal lands and waters were exceptionally productive during 2010, outstripping any year's productivity during the Bush administration. Indeed, the average productivity on federal land and waters during the four Bush years, 2003-2008, was 634 million barrels per year. During the three Obama years, 2009-2011, it was 676 million barrels. During the Bush years, federal lands produced roughly 33 percent of the national output on average. During the Obama years, they produced roughly 34 percent. [Columbia Journalism Review, 3/22/12]

 

[SniperFire]

Did you expect anything else? Alot of what he said was a lie. People say the pres. won the debate. I dont see how. Granted, he did better than before, however, he lied so much! Romney attacked and defended better.They both had good style. The substance.. not so much.. Where was your response for fast & furious pres.?

Those spinning to keep their Obamaphones say that. This is what really happened:

Luntz Focus Group Of Mostly Former Obama Voters Switch To Romney | RealClearPolitics

 

[edthecynic]

As the President correctly pointed out to the lying Bishop Willard, the oil companies were just sitting on the leases to keep them away from their competition. Obama leased the land to producers not squatters like Bush.

The facts about gas prices | Wilderness.org

HOARDING: Big Oil has leased 38 million acres of American land -- but more than 2/3 of their leases (26 million acres) are inactive! Furthermore, more than 7,000 drilling permits are going unused. The only thing keeping Big Oil from drilling is Big Oil.

 

[Liberal]

You are such a fucking troll Healthmyths.

Include the beginning of the conversation!

Barack: "We are drilling more oil now than in the last administration"

You do not have to have more land to drill more oil. Barack flat-out sat there and said that the oil companies were hording land leases, and he put an end to that.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Did you expect anything else? Alot of what he said was a lie. People say the pres. won the debate. I dont see how. Granted, he did better than before, however, he lied so much! Romney attacked and defended better.They both had good style. The substance.. not so much.. Where was your response for fast & furious pres.?

Those spinning to keep their Obamaphones say that. This is what really happened:

Luntz Focus Group Of Mostly Former Obama Voters Switch To Romney | RealClearPolitics

Luntz is a Republican propagandist.

 

[healthmyths]

And here are the facts;

Myths And Facts About Oil And Gasoline | Research | Media Matters for America

The data in the report, which go back to 2003, show that there was indeed a large decline in oil production on federal lands and waters in 2011. But that observation belies the fact that federal lands and waters were exceptionally productive during 2010, outstripping any year's productivity during the Bush administration. Indeed, the average productivity on federal land and waters during the four Bush years, 2003-2008, was 634 million barrels per year. During the three Obama years, 2009-2011, it was 676 million barrels. During the Bush years, federal lands produced roughly 33 percent of the national output on average. During the Obama years, they produced roughly 34 percent. [Columbia Journalism Review, 3/22/12]

I looked at your source.. Media Matters????
Here from your source:
Survey Of Economists Confirms That U.S. Policy Doesn't Dictate Gasoline Prices. In a survey of economists by the Chicago Booth School of Business, not one disagreed with the statement that "Changes in U.S. gasoline prices over the past 10 years have predominantly been due to market factors rather than U.S. federal economic or energy policies." [Chicago Booth School of Business, 3/19/11]


15 Times Obama & Democrats Blame Bush For Gas Prices

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9Oek6ZboAI]15 Times Obama & Democrats Blame Bush For Gas Prices - YouTube[/ame]

So these Bush Blamers are wrong INCLUDING OBAMA???

 

[NYcarbineer]

In 3 years new leases under Obama 5,568 new leases..
Under Bush.. from 2006 to 2008 15,095 new leases!

NEARLY 3 times the new Federal Leases under Bush then Obama !


http://cnsnews.com/news/article/number-new-oil-wells-and-new-leases-have-decreased-under-obama-data-blm-show

So what? Are all of those 25,000 leases now being actively drilled?

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

Obama LIED again..
From the debate transcript regarding oil leases...Obama LIED!

ROMNEY: But that's not what you've done in the last four years. That's the problem. In the last four years, you cut permits and licenses on federal land and federal waters in half.
OBAMA: Not true, Governor Romney.
ROMNEY: So how much did you cut (inaudible)?
OBAMA: Not true.
ROMNEY: How much did you cut them by, then?
OBAMA: Governor, we have actually produced more oil --
ROMNEY: No, no. How much did you cut licenses and permits on federal land and federal waters?


FACTS:
In 3 years new leases under Obama 5,568 new leases..
Under Bush.. from 2006 to 2008 15,095 new leases!

NEARLY 3 times the new Federal Leases under Bush then Obama !


http://cnsnews.com/news/article/number-new-oil-wells-and-new-leases-have-decreased-under-obama-data-blm-show

Why did you cut the transcript before Obama gave his answer?


Why do you think oil companies should be allowed to camp out on OUR land as long as they like without producing anything?

 

[healthmyths]

Media Matters for America (MMfA) is a politically progressive[1] media watchdog group that says it is "dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media".[2] Set up as a tax-exempt, nonprofit organization, MMfA was founded in 2004 by journalist and author David Brock.[3] Eric E. Burns served as MMfA's president until 2011.[4]

MMfA started with the help of $2 million in donations from liberal philanthropists connected to the Democratic party. According to Byron York, additional funding came from MoveOn.org and the New Democrat Network.[16][17][18]

Saying that MMfA's War on Fox—as well as its partisan activities—was not primarily educational as MMfA had insisted, but was instead "unlawful conduct", former White House counsel for George H. W. Bush and Fox consultant C. Boyden Gray sent a letter to the IRS asking that MMfA's tax-exempt status be revoked.[62]


Media Matters tax-exempt status may face new scrutiny from Congress | The Daily Caller

 

[NYcarbineer]

And here are the facts;

Myths And Facts About Oil And Gasoline | Research | Media Matters for America

The data in the report, which go back to 2003, show that there was indeed a large decline in oil production on federal lands and waters in 2011. But that observation belies the fact that federal lands and waters were exceptionally productive during 2010, outstripping any year's productivity during the Bush administration. Indeed, the average productivity on federal land and waters during the four Bush years, 2003-2008, was 634 million barrels per year. During the three Obama years, 2009-2011, it was 676 million barrels. During the Bush years, federal lands produced roughly 33 percent of the national output on average. During the Obama years, they produced roughly 34 percent. [Columbia Journalism Review, 3/22/12]

I looked at your source.. Media Matters????
Here from your source:
Survey Of Economists Confirms That U.S. Policy Doesn't Dictate Gasoline Prices. In a survey of economists by the Chicago Booth School of Business, not one disagreed with the statement that "Changes in U.S. gasoline prices over the past 10 years have predominantly been due to market factors rather than U.S. federal economic or energy policies." [Chicago Booth School of Business, 3/19/11]


15 Times Obama & Democrats Blame Bush For Gas Prices

15 Times Obama & Democrats Blame Bush For Gas Prices - YouTube[/url

So these Bush Blamers are wrong INCLUDING OBAMA???

You're complaining about his source after you started this thread with a link to CNS News?

lol, are you aware that CNS is a rightwing propaganda site?

 

[Old Rocks]

We exported 68 thousand barrels of gasoline a day in July of this year. If the price goes down here, they ship it to a market where they can get more for the gasoline. Like it or not, the reality is that the price of gasoline in the US is not determined by our market at present. It is determined by the world market. If you really don't like free enterprise, then perhaps we should nationalize all the oil production here. Is that what Romney wants to do?

U.S. Exports of Gasoline Blending Components (Thousand Barrels per Day)

 

[Old Rocks]

Media Matters for America (MMfA) is a politically progressive[1] media watchdog group that says it is "dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media".[2] Set up as a tax-exempt, nonprofit organization, MMfA was founded in 2004 by journalist and author David Brock.[3] Eric E. Burns served as MMfA's president until 2011.[4]

MMfA started with the help of $2 million in donations from liberal philanthropists connected to the Democratic party. According to Byron York, additional funding came from MoveOn.org and the New Democrat Network.[16][17][18]

Saying that MMfA's War on Fox—as well as its partisan activities—was not primarily educational as MMfA had insisted, but was instead "unlawful conduct", former White House counsel for George H. W. Bush and Fox consultant C. Boyden Gray sent a letter to the IRS asking that MMfA's tax-exempt status be revoked.[62]


Media Matters tax-exempt status may face new scrutiny from Congress | The Daily Caller

Yeah sure. The same Congress that wants to get rid of Big Bird. Another 2 to 4 years, and we will be rid of these feckless kooks, and the Teabaggers will be a ridiculed memory.

 

[Liberal]

Media Matters for America (MMfA) is a politically progressive[1] media watchdog group that says it is "dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media".[2] Set up as a tax-exempt, nonprofit organization, MMfA was founded in 2004 by journalist and author David Brock.[3] Eric E. Burns served as MMfA's president until 2011.[4]

MMfA started with the help of $2 million in donations from liberal philanthropists connected to the Democratic party. According to Byron York, additional funding came from MoveOn.org and the New Democrat Network.[16][17][18]

Saying that MMfA's War on Fox—as well as its partisan activities—was not primarily educational as MMfA had insisted, but was instead "unlawful conduct", former White House counsel for George H. W. Bush and Fox consultant C. Boyden Gray sent a letter to the IRS asking that MMfA's tax-exempt status be revoked.[62]


Media Matters tax-exempt status may face new scrutiny from Congress | The Daily Caller

There you go ladies and gentlemen.

Healthmyths is now trying to turn this thread into a giant deflection from her wildly inaccurate OP.

 

[healthmyths]

Obama LIED again..
From the debate transcript regarding oil leases...Obama LIED!

ROMNEY: But that's not what you've done in the last four years. That's the problem. In the last four years, you cut permits and licenses on federal land and federal waters in half.
OBAMA: Not true, Governor Romney.
ROMNEY: So how much did you cut (inaudible)?
OBAMA: Not true.
ROMNEY: How much did you cut them by, then?
OBAMA: Governor, we have actually produced more oil --
ROMNEY: No, no. How much did you cut licenses and permits on federal land and federal waters?


FACTS:
In 3 years new leases under Obama 5,568 new leases..
Under Bush.. from 2006 to 2008 15,095 new leases!

NEARLY 3 times the new Federal Leases under Bush then Obama !


http://cnsnews.com/news/article/number-new-oil-wells-and-new-leases-have-decreased-under-obama-data-blm-show

Why did you cut the transcript before Obama gave his answer?


Why do you think oil companies should be allowed to camp out on OUR land as long as they like without producing anything?

1) WELL ONE they PAID for the lease RIGHT?? YOU telling me if YOU LEASE A CAR the leasing company can take the lease back if you don't DRIVE IT???

2) Total ignorance by people like you and Obama regarding HOW TO explore and develop oil leases!!!!

Obama (June 24): The oil companies already own drilling rights to 68 million acres of federal lands, onshore and offshore, that they haven’t touched. 68 million acres that have the potential to nearly double America’s total oil production.

The charge has been repeated by Nancy Pelosi and others in his party.

So, there are 68 million acres of leased land on which companies aren’t extracting oil, but Obama went too far when he said oil companies "haven’t touched" them. As Bureau of Land Management Petroleum Engineer Bill Gewecke, who manages the onshore sites, told us, he "wouldn’t say untouched, would say undeveloped."
That’s because these leased lands that don’t contain productive drilling operations likely are not lying idle as Obama implies.
There are a lot of steps and procedures involved in setting up a productive oil well on leased land, both onshore and off.
The Bureau of Land Management’s Web site lists the regulatory hurdles that need to be cleared as part of the larger five-step life cycle of a well.
The path to setting up an offshore drilling operation is even longer, as shown in a large flow chart developed by the MMS.
[URL="http://factcheck.org/2008/07/unused-offshore-potential/"]http://factcheck.org/2008/07/unused-offshore-potential/

But I'm sure Obama like you think exploring and producing oil is as simple these lyrics from "Beverly Hillbillies.."

Jed A poor mountaineer, barely kept his family fed, Then one day he was shootin at some food,
And up through the ground came a bubblin crude. Oil that is, black gold, Texas tea."

source: Beverly Hillbillies Lyrics - Theme Song Lyrics

YOU like Obama are so dumb you think oil production is just "shootin at food OIL comes up?""
YOU really that stupid???

 

[healthmyths]

AND AGAIN the proof OBAMA knows crap about what he says..
OIL LEASES under OBAMA in 3 years new leases under Obama 5,568 new leases..
Under Bush.. from 2006 to 2008 15,095 new leases!

AGAIN... tell me just by simple MATH which President seems based on these facts to favor oil production on Federal Lands???

FACTS.. 10 years from discovery to Production!!! BUT Idiots like you think drilling for oil is like shootin for food!!!!
The assumption that ANWR oil production would begin 10 years after legislation approves the Federal oil and natural gas leasing in the 1002 Area is based on the following 8-to-12 year timeline:

* 2 to 3 years to obtain leases, including the development of a U.S. Bureau of Land Management (BLM) leasing program, which includes approval of an Environmental Impact Statement, the collection and analysis of seismic data, and the auction and award of leases.
* 2 to 3 years to drill a single exploratory well. Exploratory wells are slower to drill because geophysical data are collected during drilling, e.g., rock cores and well logs. Typically, Alaska North Slope exploration wells take two full winter seasons to reach the desired depth.
* 1 to 2 years to develop a production development plan and obtain BLM approval for that plan, if a commercial oil reservoir is discovered. Considerably more time could be required if the discovered oil reservoir is very deep, is filled with heavy oil, or is highly faulted. The petroleum company might have to collect more seismic data or drill delineation wells to confirm that the deposit is commercial.
* 3 to 4 years to construct the feeder pipelines; to fabricate oil separation and treatment plants, and transport them up from the lower-48 States to the North Slope by ocean barge; construct drilling pads; drill to depth; and complete the wells.

EIA - Analysis of Crude Oil Production in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge - Methodology and Assumptions

 

[SniperFire]

In 3 years new leases under Obama 5,568 new leases..
Under Bush.. from 2006 to 2008 15,095 new leases!

NEARLY 3 times the new Federal Leases under Bush then Obama !


http://cnsnews.com/news/article/number-new-oil-wells-and-new-leases-have-decreased-under-obama-data-blm-show

So what? Are all of those 25,000 leases now being actively drilled?

So your POTUS once again baldface lied to the American public about basic facts.


Worst Ever.

 

[healthmyths]

In 3 years new leases under Obama 5,568 new leases..
Under Bush.. from 2006 to 2008 15,095 new leases!

NEARLY 3 times the new Federal Leases under Bush then Obama !


http://cnsnews.com/news/article/number-new-oil-wells-and-new-leases-have-decreased-under-obama-data-blm-show

So what? Are all of those 25,000 leases now being actively drilled?

Please... you are really showing your ignorance here!
A) Where did you come up with "25,000" leases? Add Bush's 15,095 to Obama's reduced 5,568 leases equals 20,663 leases!
B) Surprise Obama WAS right! Oil production on public lands IS UP.. NO question!
BUT... the leases that are being productive DID NOT get explored and developed that Obama approved as it takes about 10 years as this is the process which people like you and OBAMA definitely don't understand:
FACTS.. 10 years from discovery to Production!!! BUT Idiots like you think drilling for oil is like shootin for food!!!!

Using the below as a model here is what has to happen...

The assumption that ANWR oil production would begin 10 years after legislation approves the Federal oil and natural gas leasing in the 1002 Area is based on the following 8-to-12 year timeline:

• * 2 to 3 years to obtain leases, including the development of a U.S. Bureau of Land Management (BLM) leasing program, which includes approval of an Environmental Impact Statement, the collection and analysis of seismic data, and the auction and award of leases.
• * 2 to 3 years to drill a single exploratory well. Exploratory wells are slower to drill because geophysical data are collected during drilling, e.g., rock cores and well logs. Typically, Alaska North Slope exploration wells take two full winter seasons to reach the desired depth.
• * 1 to 2 years to develop a production development plan and obtain BLM approval for that plan, if a commercial oil reservoir is discovered. Considerably more time could be required if the discovered oil reservoir is very deep, is filled with heavy oil, or is highly faulted. The petroleum company might have to collect more seismic data or drill delineation wells to confirm that the deposit is commercial.
• * 3 to 4 years to construct the feeder pipelines; to fabricate oil separation and treatment plants, and transport them up from the lower-48 States to the North Slope by ocean barge; construct drilling pads; drill to depth; and complete the wells.

EIA - Analysis of Crude Oil Production in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge - Methodology and Assumptions

10 years! So tell me when will Obama's 5,568 leases become available???

one productive well for every seven dry holes
Statistically, wildcat (or exploratory) wells have a one in seven chance of discovering oil or gas. While six may be dry holes, one in the group can make a big enough difference to outweigh all the risks. [URL="http://www.rigzone.com/training/insight.asp?insight_id=318&c_id=1"] http://www.rigzone.com/training/insight.asp?insight_id=318&c_id=1