Fear of a black president

Provide evidence to back up your claims.

You want proof that Sitarro has wondered all this??

I am only aware of one politician (maybe two) who were white who got elected running against blacks in predominantly black areas. Steve Cohen of Memphis is one.

Houston just elected a well known white lesbian as Mayor over a black candidate, liberal lesbian trumped conservative black. There is a large homosexual/lesbian community in the city and they like blacks vote like lemmings for their "own kind". Most blacks I've known think that conservative blacks are traitors to their race, I witnessed this type of talk in a room full of black guys at work....... I was amazed to listen to the shit they said about him during a debate.

My brother in law calls any black republican an "oreo". He's black, and a real jerk, not that the two have anything to do with each other.
 
Why did I choose to address this today?? Because I'm sick of you people hiding behind your racism and pretending it is everything but what it is. A black man has no business being our president, in your eyes. Tough. Grow up and deal with it.
I've had plenty of black friends throughout my childhood and even today. I've never looked at Obama as some crazy black man, just a crazy liberal who's policies aren't good for America, same as Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid.

So, fuck you for calling me a racist.

I'm almost at the point where I consider it an honor when someone calls me a racist. Sad, the card's been played so often that it's lost nearly all it's meaning. When REAL racism happens....no one pays any attention.

For the record, my family, not just my friends, but my family is made up of ALL races. How many of the rest of you can say this?
 
Why did I choose to address this today?? Because I'm sick of you people hiding behind your racism and pretending it is everything but what it is. A black man has no business being our president, in your eyes. Tough. Grow up and deal with it.
I've had plenty of black friends throughout my childhood and even today. I've never looked at Obama as some crazy black man, just a crazy liberal who's policies aren't good for America, same as Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid.

So, fuck you for calling me a racist.


Black people need to quite playing the race card and take a hard look at Obama's policies and who they are hurting. Obama wants to spread the wealth but just enough to keep people dependent on the government.
 
Whether people admit it or not, it exists and is going to be a big problem for this country. There are so many articles on this topic. I like this one by Alvin F. Poussaint, M.D., of Harvard Medical School. Here is some of what he said:

These days, the political climate has renewed the sense of urgency around the question of extreme racism as a form of mental illness. The red-faced freak-outs by many of the whites who turned up at Town Hall meetings around the nation through August, Poussaint said, are indications that conscious and subconscious racist beliefs among some whites have found a ready repository in the form of the 44th President.

“It is not rational, but they see America as ‘their country,’ which translates in their minds that this President is not legitimate,” Poussaint explained. “If they are unemployed, if they are struggling to keep their families together, they will blame Obama instead of Bush, even though it is obvious that the Bush Administration was actually in charge when the economy went bad.

“But these folks shouting at the President won’t blame Bush, in large part because Bush is a white man. Obama is black, blacks are inferior and can’t do anything right, so in their thinking, he is to blame for it,” Poussaint said.

Misplaced anxiety and anger over lost jobs, or diminished finances or perceived threats to one’s safety by a political changing of the guard, appear to be exacerbating in those who previously managed to keep racist opinions or beliefs in check, Poussaint said. And when we decline to accurately identify this misplaced animosity as racism, or to write it off merely as “partisan politics,” it is not just foolhardy, it is potentially dangerous, Poussaint said.

With an eye focused perhaps on the increasing volatility of “partisan politics,” President Obama said recently that he doesn’t think that racism is the main instigator of the anti-health care reform protests. But Poussaint says that now is not the time to be in denial about the potential harm that extreme racism can visit upon the American body politic.

“President Obama has been subjected to more death threats than any president in history,” Poussaint said. “Gun sales went way up after his election, and they continue to climb. You had an elected Congressman [Rep. Joe Wilson, a South Carolina Republican] calling the President a liar in the middle of a formal speech! Since when has anything like that ever happened? And you actually have other elected officials defend the Congressman who acted out so disrespectfully against the president,” Poussaint said. Not in the case of Wilson’s outburst, but in general, “after a point, this sort of thing can become delusional thinking,” Poussaint told TheDefendersOnline. “And the danger grows once the individual reaches the point where they think the only way to solve the perceived ‘problem” is to kill the person they believe is causing it.”

With a black man leading the U.S. for the first time in history, we have to be unafraid to ask hard questions in this regard: Are whites who rail against President Obama driven crazy by racism? And might they be considered dangerous?

Has Fear of a Black President Driven Some White People Crazy? | The Defenders Online | A Civil Rights Blog

50% of whites voted for him, more than 90% of blacks did. Let's face it, given those stats, it's the blacks that are racist.

it was more like 98% of the blacks voted for him.
 
Why did I choose to address this today?? Because I'm sick of you people hiding behind your racism and pretending it is everything but what it is. A black man has no business being our president, in your eyes. Tough. Grow up and deal with it.
I've had plenty of black friends throughout my childhood and even today. I've never looked at Obama as some crazy black man, just a crazy liberal who's policies aren't good for America, same as Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid.

So, fuck you for calling me a racist.

I'm almost at the point where I consider it an honor when someone calls me a racist. Sad, the card's been played so often that it's lost nearly all it's meaning. When REAL racism happens....no one pays any attention.

For the record, my family, not just my friends, but my family is made up of ALL races. How many of the rest of you can say this?

I can.
 
Except for several others, the majority of posts responding to this thread have been from people that Maureen Dowd calls "the loco fringe".

I’ve been loath to admit that the shrieking lunacy of the summer — the frantic efforts to paint our first black president as the Other, a foreigner, socialist, fascist, Marxist, racist, Commie, Nazi; a cad who would snuff old people; a snake who would indoctrinate kids — had much to do with race.

I tended to agree with some Obama advisers that Democratic presidents typically have provoked a frothing response from paranoids — from Father Coughlin against F.D.R. to Joe McCarthy against Truman to the John Birchers against J.F.K. and the vast right-wing conspiracy against Bill Clinton.

But Wilson’s shocking disrespect for the office of the president — no Democrat ever shouted “liar” at W. when he was hawking a fake case for war in Iraq — convinced me: Some people just can’t believe a black man is president and will never accept it.
Barry Obama of the post-’60s Hawaiian ’hood did not live through the major racial struggles in American history. Maybe he had a problem relating to his white basketball coach or catching a cab in New York, but he never got beaten up for being black.

Now he’s at the center of a period of racial turbulence sparked by his ascension. Even if he and the coterie of white male advisers around him don’t choose to openly acknowledge it, this president is the ultimate civil rights figure — a black man whose legitimacy is constantly challenged by a loco fringe.
For two centuries, the South has feared a takeover by blacks or the feds. In Obama, they have both.

The state that fired the first shot of the Civil War has now given us this: Senator Jim DeMint exhorted conservatives to “break” the president by upending his health care plan. Rusty DePass, a G.O.P. activist, said that a gorilla that escaped from a zoo was “just one of Michelle’s ancestors.” Lovelorn Mark Sanford tried to refuse the president’s stimulus money. And now Joe Wilson.

“A good many people in South Carolina really reject the notion that we’re part of the union,” said Don Fowler, the former Democratic Party chief who teaches politics at the University of South Carolina. He observed that when slavery was destroyed by outside forces and segregation was undone by civil rights leaders and Congress, it bred xenophobia.


http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/13/opinion/13dowd.html

Why did I choose to address this today?? Because I'm sick of you people hiding behind your racism and pretending it is everything but what it is. A black man has no business being our president, in your eyes. Tough. Grow up and deal with it.





Here's the part I don't get. Won't never get.. Obama,, White mamma, black daddy and you guys claim he's black,, well, isn't that racism? what about his white?? I think you are a damned racist.
 
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I fear ignorant and foolish adults acting in a childish and impudent manner when it comes to the governance of this Republic, than I do the race of a person.

On the one hand many in society yell racism when they perceive their political way is being blocked. On the other hand, many in society promote the self same segmentation when they think it can politically benefit them. The irony is thick as ignorance and as dull as reading the OP.
 
Whether people admit it or not, it exists and is going to be a big problem for this country. There are so many articles on this topic. I like this one by Alvin F. Poussaint, M.D., of Harvard Medical School. Here is some of what he said:

These days, the political climate has renewed the sense of urgency around the question of extreme racism as a form of mental illness. The red-faced freak-outs by many of the whites who turned up at Town Hall meetings around the nation through August, Poussaint said, are indications that conscious and subconscious racist beliefs among some whites have found a ready repository in the form of the 44th President.

“It is not rational, but they see America as ‘their country,’ which translates in their minds that this President is not legitimate,” Poussaint explained. “If they are unemployed, if they are struggling to keep their families together, they will blame Obama instead of Bush, even though it is obvious that the Bush Administration was actually in charge when the economy went bad.

“But these folks shouting at the President won’t blame Bush, in large part because Bush is a white man. Obama is black, blacks are inferior and can’t do anything right, so in their thinking, he is to blame for it,” Poussaint said.

Misplaced anxiety and anger over lost jobs, or diminished finances or perceived threats to one’s safety by a political changing of the guard, appear to be exacerbating in those who previously managed to keep racist opinions or beliefs in check, Poussaint said. And when we decline to accurately identify this misplaced animosity as racism, or to write it off merely as “partisan politics,” it is not just foolhardy, it is potentially dangerous, Poussaint said.

With an eye focused perhaps on the increasing volatility of “partisan politics,” President Obama said recently that he doesn’t think that racism is the main instigator of the anti-health care reform protests. But Poussaint says that now is not the time to be in denial about the potential harm that extreme racism can visit upon the American body politic.

“President Obama has been subjected to more death threats than any president in history,” Poussaint said. “Gun sales went way up after his election, and they continue to climb. You had an elected Congressman [Rep. Joe Wilson, a South Carolina Republican] calling the President a liar in the middle of a formal speech! Since when has anything like that ever happened? And you actually have other elected officials defend the Congressman who acted out so disrespectfully against the president,” Poussaint said. Not in the case of Wilson’s outburst, but in general, “after a point, this sort of thing can become delusional thinking,” Poussaint told TheDefendersOnline. “And the danger grows once the individual reaches the point where they think the only way to solve the perceived ‘problem” is to kill the person they believe is causing it.”

With a black man leading the U.S. for the first time in history, we have to be unafraid to ask hard questions in this regard: Are whites who rail against President Obama driven crazy by racism? And might they be considered dangerous?

Has Fear of a Black President Driven Some White People Crazy? | The Defenders Online | A Civil Rights Blog
Wow. Someone else blaming all criticism of Obama on racism. Quite original.

You should read it again to. And this time, pay attention to what's being said, not what you choose to hear.
 
The red-faced freak-outs by many of the whites who turned up at Town Hall meetings around the nation through August, Poussaint said, are indications that conscious and subconscious racist beliefs among some whites have found a ready repository in the form of the 44th President.

These are the people he's referring. They showed up this summer declaring they didn't want no government health care eventhough they were on medicare. They railed agains death panel; though none existed in the bill (you would have to include Palin since she started and stuck by the lie).

If this guy is wrong about these people; what's your explanation?
 
Fear of a black planet!

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PaoLy7PHwk]YouTube - Public Enemy - Fight The Power[/ame]
 
If this guy is wrong about these people; what's your explanation?
He's distorting and over generalizing about people he has never met.

Then tell me, what is the motivation of people who rail against facts? Like, where he was born; death panels in the healthcare bill; socialists policies. When any sane examination of the facts show he was born in Hawaii, there were no death panels in the health care bill, and based on a long standing definition of socialism, his actions have not been socialist.

Please explain to me what is the motivation of these people? It's not the facts.
 
If this guy is wrong about these people; what's your explanation?
He's distorting and over generalizing about people he has never met.

Then tell me, what is the motivation of people who rail against facts? Like, where he was born; death panels in the healthcare bill; socialists policies. When any sane examination of the facts show he was born in Hawaii, there were no death panels in the health care bill, and based on a long standing definition of socialism, his actions have not been socialist.

Please explain to me what is the motivation of these people? It's not the facts.

His long form birth certificate has never shown up and his Kenyan grandmother claims to have been present at his birth even though she's never left Kenya. For those that claim it had to do with misinterpretation, I watched this on youtube with my friends from Kenya and they say that's EXACTLY what she said. One of them then started agreeing with me that Obama wasn't qualified to be president. She voted for him anyway because her husband wanted her to....obviously she's not American enough yet. :D

And as for my motivation? This country and precedent which will change this country is my motivation. When the facts come out, and they will eventually, what kind of precedent will have been set and how will it affect our future?
 
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