FDR- the Icon Hero of the Left

[eagle1462010]

How FDR's New Deal Harmed Millions of Poor People

New Deal programs were financed by tripling federal taxes from $1.6 billion in 1933 to $5.3 billion in 1940. Excise taxes, personal income taxes, inheritance taxes, corporate income taxes, holding company taxes and so-called “excess profits” taxes all went up.

The most important source of New Deal revenue were excise taxes levied on alcoholic beverages, cigarettes, matches, candy, chewing gum, margarine, fruit juice, soft drinks, cars, tires (including tires on wheelchairs), telephone calls, movie tickets, playing cards, electricity, radios — these and many other everyday things were subject to New Deal excise taxes, which meant that the New Deal was substantially financed by the middle class and poor people. Yes, to hear FDR’s “Fireside Chats,” one had to pay FDR excise taxes for a radio and electricity! A Treasury Department report acknowledged that excise taxes “often fell disproportionately on the less affluent.”

Until 1937, New Deal revenue from excise taxes exceeded the combined revenue from both personal income taxes and corporate income taxes. It wasn’t until 1942, in the midst of World War II, that income taxes exceeded excise taxes for the first time under FDR. Consumers had less money to spend, and employers had less money for growth and jobs.

New Deal taxes were major job destroyers during the 1930s, prolonging unemployment that averaged 17%. Higher business taxes meant that employers had less money for growth and jobs. Social Security excise taxes on payrolls made it more expensive for employers to hire people, which discouraged hiring.

Other New Deal programs destroyed jobs, too. For example, the National Industrial Recovery Act (1933) cut back production and forced wages above market levels, making it more expensive for employers to hire people - blacks alone were estimated to have lost some 500,000 jobs because of the National Industrial Recovery Act. The Agricultural Adjustment Act (1933) cut back farm production and devastated black tenant farmers who needed work. The National Labor Relations Act (1935) gave unions monopoly bargaining power in workplaces and led to violent strikes and compulsory unionization of mass production industries. Unions secured above-market wages, triggering big layoffs and helping to usher in the depression of 1938.

 

[regent]

So how did the UCLA professors rate Republican Hoover's attempt to end the depression? How many Great Depressions have we had since FDR's New Deal?
And the minor turndowns we have had, do we use FDR's or Hoover's programs to stop the problem?

Hoover had similar programs but refused to expand gov't to do them.............Many historians say WWII ended it.........Not FDR............just has many have stated FDR prolonged it..............

The mass spending of the War...........ended it...........and the boom after was a result of the world being destroyed by War and we had the industrial machine to supply the rebuilding...........

Bottom line...........FDR moved us away from the Constitution...........and was the beginning of the giant Gov't and corruption we have today..............The 10th limited the Gov't functions..........FDR led us down the path to do and fund whatever they please on the taxpayers dollars...............

We were warned by the Founding Fathers not to do this............We didn't listen........FDR would NEVER have passed this stuff without the Depression......but in that moment of time...........the desperation went down that path.

I'd call FDR and Liberal opportunist

Historians have called FDR America's best president.

So how did the UCLA professors rate Republican Hoover's attempt to end the depression? How many Great Depressions have we had since FDR's New Deal?
And the minor turndowns we have had, do we use FDR's or Hoover's programs to stop the problem?

Hoover had similar programs but refused to expand gov't to do them.............Many historians say WWII ended it.........Not FDR............just has many have stated FDR prolonged it..............

The mass spending of the War...........ended it...........and the boom after was a result of the world being destroyed by War and we had the industrial machine to supply the rebuilding...........

Bottom line...........FDR moved us away from the Constitution...........and was the beginning of the giant Gov't and corruption we have today..............The 10th limited the Gov't functions..........FDR led us down the path to do and fund whatever they please on the taxpayers dollars...............

We were warned by the Founding Fathers not to do this............We didn't listen........FDR would NEVER have passed this stuff without the Depression......but in that moment of time...........the desperation went down that path.

I'd call FDR and Liberal opportunist

 

[eagle1462010]

FDR won re-election with high unemployment; Can Obama do the same?

When FDR won the presidency in 1932, the unemployment rate was a staggering 23.5 percent. A year later in 1933 it was 24.7 percent. In 1934 it was just under 22 percent. In 1935, for the first time in his presidency, unemployment dipped below 20 percent, but only to 19.97 percent. And by 1936, when he ran for re-election, 16.8 percent of Americans still couldn’t find jobs.

So during FDR’s first term the unemployment rate ranged from a high of nearly 25 percent to a low of about 17 percent – and he still won re-election.

Then in 1937, 14 percent of Americans were still out of work. In 1938, unemployment went back up to about 19 percent. In 1939 it was 17 percent, and in 1940, it was down to 14.45 percent.

So at no point during his first two terms had unemployment gone below that 14.45 percent, yet Roosevelt not only won re-election, he was re-elected to a third term – the first time that had ever happened in the entire history of the United States.

So, all this talk about how no president can win re-election with 8 percent of Americans out of work is wishful thinking at best, nonsense at worst.

FDR had a few things going for him that might be worth considering as Election Day approaches. First, he could blame it all on his Republican predecessor under whose watch the economy tanked. Second, FDR connected with ordinary Americans. In a word, they liked him.



Economically, and in job creation.........FDR didn't do so good now did he............but people voted for him again........He was giving out free shit......in a time of misery.......and was rewarded.........

As I've already said............WWII got us out of the depression.........

 

[eagle1462010]

So how did the UCLA professors rate Republican Hoover's attempt to end the depression? How many Great Depressions have we had since FDR's New Deal?
And the minor turndowns we have had, do we use FDR's or Hoover's programs to stop the problem?

Hoover had similar programs but refused to expand gov't to do them.............Many historians say WWII ended it.........Not FDR............just has many have stated FDR prolonged it..............

The mass spending of the War...........ended it...........and the boom after was a result of the world being destroyed by War and we had the industrial machine to supply the rebuilding...........

Bottom line...........FDR moved us away from the Constitution...........and was the beginning of the giant Gov't and corruption we have today..............The 10th limited the Gov't functions..........FDR led us down the path to do and fund whatever they please on the taxpayers dollars...............

We were warned by the Founding Fathers not to do this............We didn't listen........FDR would NEVER have passed this stuff without the Depression......but in that moment of time...........the deperation went down that path.

I'd call FDR and Liberal opportunist

Historians have called FDR America's best president.

So how did the UCLA professors rate Republican Hoover's attempt to end the depression? How many Great Depressions have we had since FDR's New Deal?
And the minor turndowns we have had, do we use FDR's or Hoover's programs to stop the problem?

Hoover had similar programs but refused to expand gov't to do them.............Many historians say WWII ended it.........Not FDR............just has many have stated FDR prolonged it..............

The mass spending of the War...........ended it...........and the boom after was a result of the world being destroyed by War and we had the industrial machine to supply the rebuilding...........

Bottom line...........FDR moved us away from the Constitution...........and was the beginning of the giant Gov't and corruption we have today..............The 10th limited the Gov't functions..........FDR led us down the path to do and fund whatever they please on the taxpayers dollars...............

We were warned by the Founding Fathers not to do this............We didn't listen........FDR would NEVER have passed this stuff without the Depression......but in that moment of time...........the desperation went down that path.

I'd call FDR and Liberal opportunist

So...................To me he killed the Constitution........

He expanded Gov't to the path we are today...........In his first 2 terms......his unemployment was still massive.......but he understood giving out free stuff in a crisis would make people like him..........he didn't end the depression.....the War did.

 

[regent]

FDR won re-election with high unemployment; Can Obama do the same?

When FDR won the presidency in 1932, the unemployment rate was a staggering 23.5 percent. A year later in 1933 it was 24.7 percent. In 1934 it was just under 22 percent. In 1935, for the first time in his presidency, unemployment dipped below 20 percent, but only to 19.97 percent. And by 1936, when he ran for re-election, 16.8 percent of Americans still couldn’t find jobs.

So during FDR’s first term the unemployment rate ranged from a high of nearly 25 percent to a low of about 17 percent – and he still won re-election.

Then in 1937, 14 percent of Americans were still out of work. In 1938, unemployment went back up to about 19 percent. In 1939 it was 17 percent, and in 1940, it was down to 14.45 percent.

So at no point during his first two terms had unemployment gone below that 14.45 percent, yet Roosevelt not only won re-election, he was re-elected to a third term – the first time that had ever happened in the entire history of the United States.

So, all this talk about how no president can win re-election with 8 percent of Americans out of work is wishful thinking at best, nonsense at worst.

FDR had a few things going for him that might be worth considering as Election Day approaches. First, he could blame it all on his Republican predecessor under whose watch the economy tanked. Second, FDR connected with ordinary Americans. In a word, they liked him.



Economically, and in job creation.........FDR didn't do so good now did he............but people voted for him again........He was giving out free shit......in a time of misery.......and was rewarded.........

As I've already said............WWII got us out of the depression.........

How FDR's New Deal Harmed Millions of Poor People

New Deal programs were financed by tripling federal taxes from $1.6 billion in 1933 to $5.3 billion in 1940. Excise taxes, personal income taxes, inheritance taxes, corporate income taxes, holding company taxes and so-called “excess profits” taxes all went up.

The most important source of New Deal revenue were excise taxes levied on alcoholic beverages, cigarettes, matches, candy, chewing gum, margarine, fruit juice, soft drinks, cars, tires (including tires on wheelchairs), telephone calls, movie tickets, playing cards, electricity, radios — these and many other everyday things were subject to New Deal excise taxes, which meant that the New Deal was substantially financed by the middle class and poor people. Yes, to hear FDR’s “Fireside Chats,” one had to pay FDR excise taxes for a radio and electricity! A Treasury Department report acknowledged that excise taxes “often fell disproportionately on the less affluent.”

Until 1937, New Deal revenue from excise taxes exceeded the combined revenue from both personal income taxes and corporate income taxes. It wasn’t until 1942, in the midst of World War II, that income taxes exceeded excise taxes for the first time under FDR. Consumers had less money to spend, and employers had less money for growth and jobs.

New Deal taxes were major job destroyers during the 1930s, prolonging unemployment that averaged 17%. Higher business taxes meant that employers had less money for growth and jobs. Social Security excise taxes on payrolls made it more expensive for employers to hire people, which discouraged hiring.

Other New Deal programs destroyed jobs, too. For example, the National Industrial Recovery Act (1933) cut back production and forced wages above market levels, making it more expensive for employers to hire people - blacks alone were estimated to have lost some 500,000 jobs because of the National Industrial Recovery Act. The Agricultural Adjustment Act (1933) cut back farm production and devastated black tenant farmers who needed work. The National Labor Relations Act (1935) gave unions monopoly bargaining power in workplaces and led to violent strikes and compulsory unionization of mass production industries. Unions secured above-market wages, triggering big layoffs and helping to usher in the depression of 1938.

So you are really saying FDR's New Deal did not spend enough, it had to spend as much as WWII. And yet Republicans wanted to balance the budget.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

So how did the UCLA professors rate Republican Hoover's attempt to end the depression? How many Great Depressions have we had since FDR's New Deal?
And the minor turndowns we have had, do we use FDR's or Hoover's programs to stop the problem?

Hoover had similar programs but refused to expand gov't to do them.............Many historians say WWII ended it.........Not FDR............just has many have stated FDR prolonged it..............

The mass spending of the War...........ended it...........and the boom after was a result of the world being destroyed by War and we had the industrial machine to supply the rebuilding...........

Bottom line...........FDR moved us away from the Constitution...........and was the beginning of the giant Gov't and corruption we have today..............The 10th limited the Gov't functions..........FDR led us down the path to do and fund whatever they please on the taxpayers dollars...............

We were warned by the Founding Fathers not to do this............We didn't listen........FDR would NEVER have passed this stuff without the Depression......but in that moment of time...........the desperation went down that path.

I'd call FDR and Liberal opportunist

The Other War: FDR's Battle Against Churchill and the British Empire

Churchill and FDR were at odds on many things.......including how to best defeat Germany............

Churchill understood better than FDR what would happen to Europe if too much territory was allowed to go to Russia............

He was CORRECT.

So...................To me he killed the Constitution........

He expanded Gov't to the path we are today...........In his first 2 terms......his unemployment was still massive.......but he understood giving out free stuff in a crisis would make people like him..........he didn't end the depression.....the War did


and the FDR shills campy troll and wrongwinger can only do this in defeat-

 

[LA RAM FAN]

FDR won re-election with high unemployment; Can Obama do the same?

When FDR won the presidency in 1932, the unemployment rate was a staggering 23.5 percent. A year later in 1933 it was 24.7 percent. In 1934 it was just under 22 percent. In 1935, for the first time in his presidency, unemployment dipped below 20 percent, but only to 19.97 percent. And by 1936, when he ran for re-election, 16.8 percent of Americans still couldn’t find jobs.

So during FDR’s first term the unemployment rate ranged from a high of nearly 25 percent to a low of about 17 percent – and he still won re-election.

Then in 1937, 14 percent of Americans were still out of work. In 1938, unemployment went back up to about 19 percent. In 1939 it was 17 percent, and in 1940, it was down to 14.45 percent.

So at no point during his first two terms had unemployment gone below that 14.45 percent, yet Roosevelt not only won re-election, he was re-elected to a third term – the first time that had ever happened in the entire history of the United States.

So, all this talk about how no president can win re-election with 8 percent of Americans out of work is wishful thinking at best, nonsense at worst.

FDR had a few things going for him that might be worth considering as Election Day approaches. First, he could blame it all on his Republican predecessor under whose watch the economy tanked. Second, FDR connected with ordinary Americans. In a word, they liked him.



Economically, and in job creation.........FDR didn't do so good now did he............but people voted for him again........He was giving out free shit......in a time of misery.......and was rewarded.........

As I've already said............WWII got us out of the depression.........

 

[LA RAM FAN]

How FDR's New Deal Harmed Millions of Poor People

New Deal programs were financed by tripling federal taxes from $1.6 billion in 1933 to $5.3 billion in 1940. Excise taxes, personal income taxes, inheritance taxes, corporate income taxes, holding company taxes and so-called “excess profits” taxes all went up.

The most important source of New Deal revenue were excise taxes levied on alcoholic beverages, cigarettes, matches, candy, chewing gum, margarine, fruit juice, soft drinks, cars, tires (including tires on wheelchairs), telephone calls, movie tickets, playing cards, electricity, radios — these and many other everyday things were subject to New Deal excise taxes, which meant that the New Deal was substantially financed by the middle class and poor people. Yes, to hear FDR’s “Fireside Chats,” one had to pay FDR excise taxes for a radio and electricity! A Treasury Department report acknowledged that excise taxes “often fell disproportionately on the less affluent.”

Until 1937, New Deal revenue from excise taxes exceeded the combined revenue from both personal income taxes and corporate income taxes. It wasn’t until 1942, in the midst of World War II, that income taxes exceeded excise taxes for the first time under FDR. Consumers had less money to spend, and employers had less money for growth and jobs.

New Deal taxes were major job destroyers during the 1930s, prolonging unemployment that averaged 17%. Higher business taxes meant that employers had less money for growth and jobs. Social Security excise taxes on payrolls made it more expensive for employers to hire people, which discouraged hiring.

Other New Deal programs destroyed jobs, too. For example, the National Industrial Recovery Act (1933) cut back production and forced wages above market levels, making it more expensive for employers to hire people - blacks alone were estimated to have lost some 500,000 jobs because of the National Industrial Recovery Act. The Agricultural Adjustment Act (1933) cut back farm production and devastated black tenant farmers who needed work. The National Labor Relations Act (1935) gave unions monopoly bargaining power in workplaces and led to violent strikes and compulsory unionization of mass production industries. Unions secured above-market wages, triggering big layoffs and helping to usher in the depression of 1938.

 

[eagle1462010]

FDR won re-election with high unemployment; Can Obama do the same?

When FDR won the presidency in 1932, the unemployment rate was a staggering 23.5 percent. A year later in 1933 it was 24.7 percent. In 1934 it was just under 22 percent. In 1935, for the first time in his presidency, unemployment dipped below 20 percent, but only to 19.97 percent. And by 1936, when he ran for re-election, 16.8 percent of Americans still couldn’t find jobs.

So during FDR’s first term the unemployment rate ranged from a high of nearly 25 percent to a low of about 17 percent – and he still won re-election.

Then in 1937, 14 percent of Americans were still out of work. In 1938, unemployment went back up to about 19 percent. In 1939 it was 17 percent, and in 1940, it was down to 14.45 percent.

So at no point during his first two terms had unemployment gone below that 14.45 percent, yet Roosevelt not only won re-election, he was re-elected to a third term – the first time that had ever happened in the entire history of the United States.

So, all this talk about how no president can win re-election with 8 percent of Americans out of work is wishful thinking at best, nonsense at worst.

FDR had a few things going for him that might be worth considering as Election Day approaches. First, he could blame it all on his Republican predecessor under whose watch the economy tanked. Second, FDR connected with ordinary Americans. In a word, they liked him.



Economically, and in job creation.........FDR didn't do so good now did he............but people voted for him again........He was giving out free shit......in a time of misery.......and was rewarded.........

As I've already said............WWII got us out of the depression.........

How FDR's New Deal Harmed Millions of Poor People

New Deal programs were financed by tripling federal taxes from $1.6 billion in 1933 to $5.3 billion in 1940. Excise taxes, personal income taxes, inheritance taxes, corporate income taxes, holding company taxes and so-called “excess profits” taxes all went up.

The most important source of New Deal revenue were excise taxes levied on alcoholic beverages, cigarettes, matches, candy, chewing gum, margarine, fruit juice, soft drinks, cars, tires (including tires on wheelchairs), telephone calls, movie tickets, playing cards, electricity, radios — these and many other everyday things were subject to New Deal excise taxes, which meant that the New Deal was substantially financed by the middle class and poor people. Yes, to hear FDR’s “Fireside Chats,” one had to pay FDR excise taxes for a radio and electricity! A Treasury Department report acknowledged that excise taxes “often fell disproportionately on the less affluent.”

Until 1937, New Deal revenue from excise taxes exceeded the combined revenue from both personal income taxes and corporate income taxes. It wasn’t until 1942, in the midst of World War II, that income taxes exceeded excise taxes for the first time under FDR. Consumers had less money to spend, and employers had less money for growth and jobs.

New Deal taxes were major job destroyers during the 1930s, prolonging unemployment that averaged 17%. Higher business taxes meant that employers had less money for growth and jobs. Social Security excise taxes on payrolls made it more expensive for employers to hire people, which discouraged hiring.

Other New Deal programs destroyed jobs, too. For example, the National Industrial Recovery Act (1933) cut back production and forced wages above market levels, making it more expensive for employers to hire people - blacks alone were estimated to have lost some 500,000 jobs because of the National Industrial Recovery Act. The Agricultural Adjustment Act (1933) cut back farm production and devastated black tenant farmers who needed work. The National Labor Relations Act (1935) gave unions monopoly bargaining power in workplaces and led to violent strikes and compulsory unionization of mass production industries. Unions secured above-market wages, triggering big layoffs and helping to usher in the depression of 1938.

So you are really saying FDR's New Deal did not spend enough, it had to spend as much as WWII. And yet Republicans wanted to balance the budget.

The War out of necessity had deficit spending...........they always do...........But there is a Huge difference from PERMANENT social programs and a temporary War.................Yes, the deficit spending and building the massive military to fight the War........ended the issue of High unemployment under FDR........

His programs STIFLED economic growth..........it didn't promote it........Then he raised taxes and hurt the very people he was supposedly saving..........

But he was liked because of the hand outs that ensued...........Hand outs that WERE NOT FROM HIM..........but the AMERICAN TAXPAYER..........There is no provision in reality for Charity in the Constitution................Nor taking from one to give to another because of some period of time of crisis........FDR used crisis to promote a very liberal platform............which expanded the Gov't to the size it is today..........and as the founders warned........CORRUPTION COMES HAND AND HAND.

 

[Markle]

So how did the UCLA professors rate Republican Hoover's attempt to end the depression? How many Great Depressions have we had since FDR's New Deal?
And the minor turndowns we have had, do we use FDR's or Hoover's programs to stop the problem?

Hoover had similar programs but refused to expand gov't to do them.............Many historians say WWII ended it.........Not FDR............just has many have stated FDR prolonged it..............

The mass spending of the War...........ended it...........and the boom after was a result of the world being destroyed by War and we had the industrial machine to supply the rebuilding...........

Bottom line...........FDR moved us away from the Constitution...........and was the beginning of the giant Gov't and corruption we have today..............The 10th limited the Gov't functions..........FDR led us down the path to do and fund whatever they please on the taxpayers dollars...............

We were warned by the Founding Fathers not to do this............We didn't listen........FDR would NEVER have passed this stuff without the Depression......but in that moment of time...........the desperation went down that path.

I'd call FDR and Liberal opportunist

Historians have called FDR America's best president.

So how did the UCLA professors rate Republican Hoover's attempt to end the depression? How many Great Depressions have we had since FDR's New Deal?
And the minor turndowns we have had, do we use FDR's or Hoover's programs to stop the problem?

Hoover had similar programs but refused to expand gov't to do them.............Many historians say WWII ended it.........Not FDR............just has many have stated FDR prolonged it..............

The mass spending of the War...........ended it...........and the boom after was a result of the world being destroyed by War and we had the industrial machine to supply the rebuilding...........

Bottom line...........FDR moved us away from the Constitution...........and was the beginning of the giant Gov't and corruption we have today..............The 10th limited the Gov't functions..........FDR led us down the path to do and fund whatever they please on the taxpayers dollars...............

We were warned by the Founding Fathers not to do this............We didn't listen........FDR would NEVER have passed this stuff without the Depression......but in that moment of time...........the desperation went down that path.

I'd call FDR and Liberal opportunist

As I said, FDR was a decent war president and a failure with our economy.

Let us compare the Great Depression with an equally deep, if not deeper depression in 1920.

The recession lasted from January 1920 to July 1921, or 18 months, according to the National Bureau of Economic Research. This was longer than most post–World War I recessions, but was shorter than recessions of 1910–12 and 1913–1914 (24 and 23 months respectively). It was significantly shorter than the Great Depression (132 months).[1][5] Estimates for the decline in Gross National Product also vary. The U.S. Department of Commerce estimates GNP declined 6.9%, Nathan Balke and Robert J. Gordon estimate a decline of 3.5%, and Christina Romer estimates a decline of 2.4%.[2][6] There is no formal definition of economic depression, but two informal rules are a 10% decline in GDP or a recession lasting more than three years, and the unemployment rate climbing above 10%.[7]

Nothing was done and we grew out of the depression.

 

[JoeB131]

Churchill and FDR were at odds on many things.......including how to best defeat Germany............

Churchill understood better than FDR what would happen to Europe if too much territory was allowed to go to Russia............

He was CORRECT.

Um, okay. Here was the thing, dummy. The Russians were doing most of the fighting and taking most of the ground in Europe. While the west was flogging around Italy for no good purpose, the Red Army was taking on the bulk of the Wehrmacht...

So...................To me he killed the Constitution........

He expanded Gov't to the path we are today...........In his first 2 terms......his unemployment was still massive.......but he understood giving out free stuff in a crisis would make people like him..........he didn't end the depression.....the War did

Um, no, he really did end the depression. In fact, the economy had recovered so well by 1937, Congress tried to roll back much of the New Deal, which is why we got another minor recession in 1937.

What FDR did was prevent what was happening in Japan, Germany, Italy, Russia and much of the rest of the world, were people chucked democracy.

 

[regent]

If Churchill understood the war so well, why did he vote against Britain's "Rule of Ten" that was the basis for Britain's defenses?
If FDR made a mistake in fighting the Great Depression it was his failure to spend as we did in WWII. Most of his programs to prevent another major Great Depression have served America well, and are still in force.. And as mentioned if any president besides G. Washington wanted to become dictator it was FDR, but on his death Truman took over and not one of FDR's sons. Only now, are Americans that read history, beginning to see why Historians have rated FDR as America's greatest president.

 

[jasonnfree]

So how did the UCLA professors rate Republican Hoover's attempt to end the depression? How many Great Depressions have we had since FDR's New Deal?
And the minor turndowns we have had, do we use FDR's or Hoover's programs to stop the problem?

Hoover had similar programs but refused to expand gov't to do them.............Many historians say WWII ended it.........Not FDR............just has many have stated FDR prolonged it..............

The mass spending of the War...........ended it...........and the boom after was a result of the world being destroyed by War and we had the industrial machine to supply the rebuilding...........

Bottom line...........FDR moved us away from the Constitution...........and was the beginning of the giant Gov't and corruption we have today..............The 10th limited the Gov't functions..........FDR led us down the path to do and fund whatever they please on the taxpayers dollars...............

We were warned by the Founding Fathers not to do this............We didn't listen........FDR would NEVER have passed this stuff without the Depression......but in that moment of time...........the desperation went down that path.

I'd call FDR and Liberal opportunist

The Other War: FDR's Battle Against Churchill and the British Empire

Churchill and FDR were at odds on many things.......including how to best defeat Germany............

Churchill understood better than FDR what would happen to Europe if too much territory was allowed to go to Russia............

He was CORRECT.

So...................To me he killed the Constitution........

He expanded Gov't to the path we are today...........In his first 2 terms......his unemployment was still massive.......but he understood giving out free stuff in a crisis would make people like him..........he didn't end the depression.....the War did


and the FDR shills campy troll and wrongwinger can only do this in defeat-

If massive spending didn't end the depression, then how could the much greater amount of massive spending in www2 , end the depression?

 

[Unkotare]

So how did the UCLA professors rate Republican Hoover's attempt to end the depression? How many Great Depressions have we had since FDR's New Deal?
And the minor turndowns we have had, do we use FDR's or Hoover's programs to stop the problem?

Hoover had similar programs but refused to expand gov't to do them.............Many historians say WWII ended it.........Not FDR............just has many have stated FDR prolonged it..............

The mass spending of the War...........ended it...........and the boom after was a result of the world being destroyed by War and we had the industrial machine to supply the rebuilding...........

Bottom line...........FDR moved us away from the Constitution...........and was the beginning of the giant Gov't and corruption we have today..............The 10th limited the Gov't functions..........FDR led us down the path to do and fund whatever they please on the taxpayers dollars...............

We were warned by the Founding Fathers not to do this............We didn't listen........FDR would NEVER have passed this stuff without the Depression......but in that moment of time...........the desperation went down that path.

I'd call FDR and Liberal opportunist

The Other War: FDR's Battle Against Churchill and the British Empire

Churchill and FDR were at odds on many things.......including how to best defeat Germany............

Churchill understood better than FDR what would happen to Europe if too much territory was allowed to go to Russia............

He was CORRECT.

So...................To me he killed the Constitution........

He expanded Gov't to the path we are today...........In his first 2 terms......his unemployment was still massive.......but he understood giving out free stuff in a crisis would make people like him..........he didn't end the depression.....the War did


and the FDR shills campy troll and wrongwinger can only do this in defeat-

If massive spending didn't end the depression, then how could the much greater amount of massive spending in www2 , end the depression?

It didn't. The end of WWII ended the Depression.

 

[regent]

So how did the UCLA professors rate Republican Hoover's attempt to end the depression? How many Great Depressions have we had since FDR's New Deal?
And the minor turndowns we have had, do we use FDR's or Hoover's programs to stop the problem?

Hoover had similar programs but refused to expand gov't to do them.............Many historians say WWII ended it.........Not FDR............just has many have stated FDR prolonged it..............

The mass spending of the War...........ended it...........and the boom after was a result of the world being destroyed by War and we had the industrial machine to supply the rebuilding...........

Bottom line...........FDR moved us away from the Constitution...........and was the beginning of the giant Gov't and corruption we have today..............The 10th limited the Gov't functions..........FDR led us down the path to do and fund whatever they please on the taxpayers dollars...............

We were warned by the Founding Fathers not to do this............We didn't listen........FDR would NEVER have passed this stuff without the Depression......but in that moment of time...........the desperation went down that path.

I'd call FDR and Liberal opportunist

The Other War: FDR's Battle Against Churchill and the British Empire

Churchill and FDR were at odds on many things.......including how to best defeat Germany............

Churchill understood better than FDR what would happen to Europe if too much territory was allowed to go to Russia............

He was CORRECT.

So...................To me he killed the Constitution........

He expanded Gov't to the path we are today...........In his first 2 terms......his unemployment was still massive.......but he understood giving out free stuff in a crisis would make people like him..........he didn't end the depression.....the War did


and the FDR shills campy troll and wrongwinger can only do this in defeat-

If massive spending didn't end the depression, then how could the much greater amount of massive spending in www2 , end the depression?

It didn't. The end of WWII ended the Depression.

Sounds like Keynes was correct, and a lot of the free stuff FDR passed out was food, but was it free, if one had to work for it?

 

[Unkotare]

" The Ringle Report, from the Office of Naval Intelligence, found that only a small percentage of Japanese Americans posed a potential security threat, and that the most dangerous were already known or in custody."

Confession of Error: The Solicitor General's Mistakes During the Japanese-American Internment Cases

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[Weatherman2020]

" The Ringle Report, from the Office of Naval Intelligence, found that only a small percentage of Japanese Americans posed a potential security threat, and that the most dangerous were already known or in custody."

Confession of Error: The Solicitor General's Mistakes During the Japanese-American Internment Cases

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It was good of this Supreme Court to set the record straight on FDRs unconstitutional actions.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Churchill and FDR were at odds on many things.......including how to best defeat Germany............

Churchill understood better than FDR what would happen to Europe if too much territory was allowed to go to Russia............

He was CORRECT.

Um, okay. Here was the thing, dummy. The Russians were doing most of the fighting and taking most of the ground in Europe. While the west was flogging around Italy for no good purpose, the Red Army was taking on the bulk of the Wehrmacht...

So...................To me he killed the Constitution........

He expanded Gov't to the path we are today...........In his first 2 terms......his unemployment was still massive.......but he understood giving out free stuff in a crisis would make people like him..........he didn't end the depression.....the War did

Um, no, he really did end the depression. In fact, the economy had recovered so well by 1937, Congress tried to roll back much of the New Deal, which is why we got another minor recession in 1937.

What FDR did was prevent what was happening in Japan, Germany, Italy, Russia and much of the rest of the world, were people chucked democracy.

A. Russia relied upon US weapons.
B. WW2 ended the depression. A war that we only got into because of FDRs lousy leadership and made us an easy target.

 

[sparky]

It was good of this Supreme Court to set the record straight on FDRs unconstitutional actions.

then by proxy you place FDR alongside Bush