FDR Admiration Society

[Unkotare]

..... To pretend that Japan was manipulated into war by FDR......

Ignoratio elenchi

Nonsense, you believe FDR was malicious and I believe his decision was strategic in regards to Japanese internment. As I said, your bias is obvious and taints your views about the Pacific War with Japan in general.

FDR acted in the context of 1942 America

different times, different country

Shameless fucking apologist. Read the links.

1942 America

fd-scumbag-r's Attorney General lived in 1942 America. So did the governor of Colorado. So did Naval Intelligence that informed the administration that no such threat existed.

 

[Camp]

You can't even defend the nonsense you post can you?
The rightwing revisionist claims of FDR costing hundreds of thousands of lives are hard to prove in a war that cost tens of millions of lives

Geeze could you get any more ridiculous? Don't answer...it is a rhetorical question.

It is easy to determine the human cost of FDR's war. We never should have been in the war. So, all who died after FDR lied us into war, he caused their death

So your historical perspective was to turn the other cheek after Pearl Harbor

Oh...I forgot that you come to this board NEW every day...so naturally all the educating I have tried to instill in you over these many years, has failed. I will try again knowing full well I will have to do it again tomorrow.

FDR set up Japan for the attack, knew it was coming beforehand, refused to warn Pearl, sacrificed those men at Pearl, and lied us into war.

Get it...today?

So FDR told Japan to invade Nanking and Korea. It is FDRs fault for holding Japan responsible for its attrocities

FDR had no advance notice of Pearl. As a former undersecretary of the Navy, he would not have allowed all of his battleships to be destroyed.

Now you change the subject, after I completely eviscerated you. So, we are NOT debating Pearl Harbor NOW.

Japan did invade those nations. Do you think FDR needed to get Americans killed because Japan invaded other nations?

It is very apparent FDR knew Pearl would be attacked beforehand and did nothing about it. Could be why the carriers were not there.

Every one of your conspiracy theories has been debunked, most of them for over 70 years. You should at the very least let us know which conspiracy book and author you rely on for your data.

 

[gipper]

Geeze could you get any more ridiculous? Don't answer...it is a rhetorical question.

It is easy to determine the human cost of FDR's war. We never should have been in the war. So, all who died after FDR lied us into war, he caused their death

So your historical perspective was to turn the other cheek after Pearl Harbor

Oh...I forgot that you come to this board NEW every day...so naturally all the educating I have tried to instill in you over these many years, has failed. I will try again knowing full well I will have to do it again tomorrow.

FDR set up Japan for the attack, knew it was coming beforehand, refused to warn Pearl, sacrificed those men at Pearl, and lied us into war.

Get it...today?

So FDR told Japan to invade Nanking and Korea. It is FDRs fault for holding Japan responsible for its attrocities

FDR had no advance notice of Pearl. As a former undersecretary of the Navy, he would not have allowed all of his battleships to be destroyed.

Now you change the subject, after I completely eviscerated you. So, we are NOT debating Pearl Harbor NOW.

Japan did invade those nations. Do you think FDR needed to get Americans killed because Japan invaded other nations?

It is very apparent FDR knew Pearl would be attacked beforehand and did nothing about it. Could be why the carriers were not there.

Every one of your conspiracy theories has been debunked, most of them for over 70 years. You should at the very least let us know which conspiracy book and author you rely on for your data.

It is so sad that the statist brainwashing you endured in the government schools, can't be overcome.

 

[Camp]

Donald Trump would put Muslim Americans in internment today if given the opportunity. Well, at least the thousands he saw dancing in the streets of New Jersey on 9/11, probably.

 

[Camp]

So your historical perspective was to turn the other cheek after Pearl Harbor

Oh...I forgot that you come to this board NEW every day...so naturally all the educating I have tried to instill in you over these many years, has failed. I will try again knowing full well I will have to do it again tomorrow.

FDR set up Japan for the attack, knew it was coming beforehand, refused to warn Pearl, sacrificed those men at Pearl, and lied us into war.

Get it...today?

So FDR told Japan to invade Nanking and Korea. It is FDRs fault for holding Japan responsible for its attrocities

FDR had no advance notice of Pearl. As a former undersecretary of the Navy, he would not have allowed all of his battleships to be destroyed.

Now you change the subject, after I completely eviscerated you. So, we are NOT debating Pearl Harbor NOW.

Japan did invade those nations. Do you think FDR needed to get Americans killed because Japan invaded other nations?

It is very apparent FDR knew Pearl would be attacked beforehand and did nothing about it. Could be why the carriers were not there.

Every one of your conspiracy theories has been debunked, most of them for over 70 years. You should at the very least let us know which conspiracy book and author you rely on for your data.

It is so sad that the statist brainwashing you endured in the government schools, can't be overcome.

I provide links to academic sources suitible for submission with University level research papers and theses. You provide opinions formed from who knows where or what.

 

[gipper]

Oh...I forgot that you come to this board NEW every day...so naturally all the educating I have tried to instill in you over these many years, has failed. I will try again knowing full well I will have to do it again tomorrow.

FDR set up Japan for the attack, knew it was coming beforehand, refused to warn Pearl, sacrificed those men at Pearl, and lied us into war.

Get it...today?

So FDR told Japan to invade Nanking and Korea. It is FDRs fault for holding Japan responsible for its attrocities

FDR had no advance notice of Pearl. As a former undersecretary of the Navy, he would not have allowed all of his battleships to be destroyed.

Now you change the subject, after I completely eviscerated you. So, we are NOT debating Pearl Harbor NOW.

Japan did invade those nations. Do you think FDR needed to get Americans killed because Japan invaded other nations?

It is very apparent FDR knew Pearl would be attacked beforehand and did nothing about it. Could be why the carriers were not there.

Every one of your conspiracy theories has been debunked, most of them for over 70 years. You should at the very least let us know which conspiracy book and author you rely on for your data.

It is so sad that the statist brainwashing you endured in the government schools, can't be overcome.

I provide links to academic sources suitible for submission with University level research papers and theses. You provide opinions formed from who knows where or what.

We have been down this road many times and I have provided you numerous links...all of which you have ignored. Why? Because you are statist dupe.

When will you learn that elitists in government, like your hero FDR, are liars....prolific liars?

 

[Unkotare]

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I provide links to academic sources suitible [sic] for submission with University level research papers and theses.....

Don't kid yourself.

 

[rightwinger]

Ignoratio elenchi

Nonsense, you believe FDR was malicious and I believe his decision was strategic in regards to Japanese internment. As I said, your bias is obvious and taints your views about the Pacific War with Japan in general.

FDR acted in the context of 1942 America

different times, different country

Shameless fucking apologist. Read the links.

1942 America

fd-scumbag-r's Attorney General lived in 1942 America. So did the governor of Colorado. So did Naval Intelligence that informed the administration that no such threat existed.

1 governor against.....47 adamtely for internment

FDRs staff was in support of internment

 

[Unkotare]

Utterly fucking shameless apologist ^^^^^

 

[Unkotare]

FDR’s Solicitor General Withheld Evidence in Japanese Internment Cases

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[Unkotare]

World War II internment: U.S. top lawyer admits misconduct in Japanese American internment cases

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[Unkotare]

"Although there were a few voices in the administration against internment—particularly Attorney General Francis Biddle and Gen. Mark Clark, the Army’s deputy chief of staff—the president disregarded the dissenters."

FDR’s Views on Japanese Offer a Window Into Why He Wouldn’t Save Jews


"...portrays the president as the victim of irresistible pressure from his military advisers and public opinion.

The museum’s exhibition on the Japanese internment makes no mention of the last decade’s most important new research findings concerning the motives behind the internment decision. By Order of the President, a critically acclaimed 2001 book by Greg Robinson, an American historian at the University of Quebec, revealed a number of incendiary articles about Asians that Franklin Roosevelt wrote in the 1920s. In those articles, the future president asserted that “the mingling of Asiatic blood with European or American blood produces, in nine cases out of ten, the most unfortunate results.” FDR argued that because “Japanese immigrants are not capable of assimilation into the American population,” they could not be trusted and their right to purchase land should be restricted."

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[Unkotare]

"In a memorandum written in February 1942 that became known as the Ringle Report, Ringle estimated that the highest number of Japanese Americans "who would act as saboteurs or agents" of Japan was less than 3 percent of the total, or about 3500 in the United States; the most dangerous of these, he said, were already in custodial detention or were well known to the Naval Intelligence service or the FBI. In his summary Ringle concluded that the "Japanese Problem" had been distorted largely because of the physical characteristics of the people and should be handled based on the individual, regardless of citizenship, and not on race.

The Ringle Report was known to De Witt, who thus knew that Naval Intelligence estimated that at least 90 percent of the army's evacuation of Japanese Americans was unnecessary. In addition, the Department of Justice knew of the Ringle Report's conclusions when it filed its briefs in the Hirabayashi and Korematsu cases".



Read more: Japanese American Evacuation Cases - The Movement To Redress Victims - Ringle, Americans, Report, and Justice - JRank Articles Japanese American Evacuation Cases - The Movement To Redress Victims

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[Vigilante]

People were stupid even back then.....

 

[rightwinger]

FDR was wrong to inter Japanese Americans

Easy to say in 2016. In 1942, mere months after Pearl Harbor it was not so easy to decide. Japanese were bedeviled, we did not know whether the extent of their attack included sabotage and terror attacks by Japanese Americans. Now we know fears were unwarranted....in 1942 we didn't

 

[Vigilante]

FDR was wrong to inter Japanese Americans

Easy to say in 2016. In 1942, mere months after Pearl Harbor it was not so easy to decide. Japanese were bedeviled, we did not know whether the extent of their attack included sabotage and terror attacks by Japanese Americans. Now we know fears were unwarranted....in 1942 we didn't

Sounds like the muslim rapeugees we are getting today from another Socialist DemoRAT!

 

[Camp]

So FDR told Japan to invade Nanking and Korea. It is FDRs fault for holding Japan responsible for its attrocities

FDR had no advance notice of Pearl. As a former undersecretary of the Navy, he would not have allowed all of his battleships to be destroyed.

Now you change the subject, after I completely eviscerated you. So, we are NOT debating Pearl Harbor NOW.

Japan did invade those nations. Do you think FDR needed to get Americans killed because Japan invaded other nations?

It is very apparent FDR knew Pearl would be attacked beforehand and did nothing about it. Could be why the carriers were not there.

Every one of your conspiracy theories has been debunked, most of them for over 70 years. You should at the very least let us know which conspiracy book and author you rely on for your data.

It is so sad that the statist brainwashing you endured in the government schools, can't be overcome.

I provide links to academic sources suitible for submission with University level research papers and theses. You provide opinions formed from who knows where or what.

We have been down this road many times and I have provided you numerous links...all of which you have ignored. Why? Because you are statist dupe.

When will you learn that elitists in government, like your hero FDR, are liars....prolific liars?

I did not ignore your links. I believe I explained very clearly why they were not appropriate nor fulfilling my request for links to prove the point you were attempting to make.
I remember you could not provide links relevant to the topic at hand so you gave links to unrelated topics. I rejected the links you provided for that reason.
You are making an accusation that began 75 years ago. It was debunked by numerous military and congressional committees way back then and has continued to be debunked over and over, decade after decade. As I previously stated, one need only google 'pearl harbor conspiracy theories debunked' to have access to endless pages of your theories being debunked.

 

[rightwinger]

FDR is acknowledged as our greatest modern President (only Lincoln surpasses him) in this country, but around the world

FDR saved the free world and they realize their debt to him

 

[Unkotare]

FDR was wrong to inter Japanese Americans....

You mean he was a fucking piece of shit for throwing innocent, loyal Americans in concentration camps.

 

[Unkotare]

.... Now we know fears were unwarranted....in 1942 we didn't

Yes we did.